Eddie lacy really was fat

[rodell330]

I heard that he lost 15 pounds but is still like around 240. That means he was like 255 last season. Yikes.

 

[C-Lee]

That was then, this is now.

He's going to be a beast this year.

 

[Mondio]

i'll take him in that 230-240 range. He's always going to be bigger. What I don't want is overtraining to get some weight goal. Eat right, train right, let the numbers be what they are. overtraining and getting hurt in the first month won't be good either.

 

[longtimefan]

stop drinking the beer and make your curfews. he will be fine

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Pete Dougherty´s article about Lacy saying the running back is only part way there where the Packers want him to be.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp.../?hootPostID=ecd218aba0de0f6ffd40deb3fd7bfc9b

 

[armand34]

I just hope it doesn't affect his game if he drops down to MM's desired goal weight.

It's crazy to think he weighed more than John Kuhn last season, but he looked it

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I just hope it doesn't affect his game if he drops down to MM's desired goal weight.

I don´t think it will negatively affect Lacy´s game if he slims down to the weight he´s actually listed at on the Packers roster (234 pounds).

 

[Pkrjones]

The Packers want him in low 230's, where he was at the combine. They liked his power & quickness at that weight, not 255-260 where he let himself get last year.

Would Shields be the same player he is at 210? Would Jordy be as explosive playing at 230? These are elite athletes and need to maintain a strong, healthy, "good" weight, which Lacy didn't in '15. Appears he's in shape, eating better and working out properly heading into his contract year.

 

[El Guapo]

A good interview here with the P90X guy about his training with Lacy: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/380698881.html

Some interesting nuggets were that Lacy's diet was terrible and that he was drinking a lot (which we already knew because of his sorta benching).

The other thing too was just getting his diet in order. The problem was caused because of a poor diet. That changed. He didn’t know that healthy food could taste good. I cooked for him a lot of days. It’s not that hard. You make some egg whites and throw some veggies in there. It’s not rocket science. He was excited because he learned that you can make healthy food taste really good, so it’s easier for him to be more consistent with it. In the past — he’s from New Orleans so there’s a lot of really rich foods. He grew up with that. He’s a crawfish fan. He cut way back on the alcohol, which he learned early on that excess alcohol causes testosterone levels to go down. And that’s all he needed to hear. It was really impressive to see his level of discipline and hard work and willingness to get way outside of his comfort zone. Because he knew what was at stake. It was important to him, so he did it.

The most concerning part of the article is that the P90X guy said that Lacy had never taken a supplement in his life. Now he has Lacy consuming supplements and formulas made by his company. I really really hope that Lacy cross-referenced the ingredients with the NFL's banned substance lists.

I had him on some supplements that he had never done. He needed some Vitamin D supplements. We just kind of checked what he needed, and he was low on Vitamin D and fiber. He had never taken a supplement before ever. He’s a genetic freak. But he took it easy there the last year and a half. Just like anybody else, if you don’t pay attention and think you’re going to get by on pure genetics, it’s going to catch up to you. We just made some dietary shifts, some supplement shifts. The company I work for, Beachbody, makes these performance formulas that really made a difference for him, really allowed him to recover from these new kinds of workouts and to have the energy to get in there and progress over the course of two months.

 

[El Guapo]

I heard that he lost 15 pounds but is still like around 240. That means he was like 255 last season. Yikes.

Likely not the case. Per the article that I linked to above:

My only concern was that after we parted, being up in Green Bay with a lot of down time, the trick is always how do you keep those good habits intact if a guy like me is not around. Hopefully there is somebody up there that saw the progress and saw the improvement. But I never heard a word from anybody in Green Bay, which I didn’t expect it.

Since other reports that I've read say that Lacy doesn't look as trim as he did in the multiple off-season photos, he likely has put some of the weight back on after returning to Green Bay.

It sounds like Eddie could earn millions of dollars by dropping $100k now to hire a year-round personal chef and personal trainer.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The most concerning part of the article is that the P90X guy said that Lacy had never taken a supplement in his life. Now he has Lacy consuming supplements and formulas made by his company. I really really hope that Lacy cross-referenced the ingredients with the NFL's banned substance lists.

I´m convinced Horton double-checked that.

 

[El Guapo]

It sounds like the Packers were completely hands off, per the article. So I wouldn't be confident.

Eddie sounds like a great guy, but it doesn't sound like he makes great decisions for himself. In fact, his parents were the ones who reached out to set up this P90X situation. I see a great kid with little to no internal compass with parents that occasionally rudder the ship to safety.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It sounds like the Packers were completely hands off, per the article. So I wouldn't be confident.

It would be a PR nightmare for Horton if Lacy gets suspended because of supplements he received from the P90X founder. That´s why I´m convinced Horton made sure there aren´t any ingredients on the NFL´s performance enhancing drugs list in it.

 

[C-Lee]

Sounds like Eddie had been boozing pretty hard and eating poorly in the offseason before '15. Seems like he learned in his lesson in that regard.

Otherwise, this that Tony Horton interview was all fantastic stuff. While he was 100% overweight and out of shape, Lacy still showed signs of his first two seasons. He also seemed to be hurting a lot.

With all of this, plus him going into a contract year, all signs are pointing for Lacy to have maybe his best season yet.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I heard that he lost 15 pounds but is still like around 240. That means he was like 255 last season. Yikes.

I mean, it was obvious that he was REALLY overweight last year. Only the willfully ignorant last year didn't think he was severely overweight.

Side note, somewhat disappointed in Lacy's response to being overweight last year. His coach calls him out and he has a terrible season and he's still being reported as being a little too heavy...meanwhile, CJ Anderson, who averaged more than half a yard per carry BETTER than Lacy last year, reported to OTAs 20 pounds lighter. So, in Anderson, you have a RB who wasn't considered fat and wasn't called out by his coach making the effort to lose weight to try and improve...in Lacy you have a RB that had his own coach say he needed to lose weight and Lacy might have lost 20 pounds if the most optimistic reports are to be believed. Btw, Anderson's listed playing weight is only 7 pounds less than Lacy's (224 vs 231 at football-reference.com)

 

[El Guapo]

It would be a PR nightmare for Horton if Lacy gets suspended because of supplements he received from the P90X founder. That´s why I´m convinced Horton made sure there aren´t any ingredients on the NFL´s performance enhancing drugs list in it.

True, but that doesn't mean that it can't happen. You wanting it to be, doesn't make it come true.

All of these guys are getting supplements from all kinds of different "health" professionals who should be keenly aware of what is and isn't banned. It's 100% up to the players to make sure that they are allowed. I wouldn't even trust my mom or dad to make sure of it. Players are consistently getting 4-game suspensions (like Goodson) for taking a banned performance enhancing drug that 'they didn't realize' was in their supplements. You rarely hear about the folks who sold the supplements getting bad PR. Sure in this case, a reporter might trace it back to Horton but that wouldn't be my basis for trusting him.

 

[rodell330]

If you think he has to be 240 to be powerful and explosive just look at Adrian Peterson. The PERFECT combination of power and speed and he's not a small guy. The difference is his weight is distrubi between the major muscle groups...while lacy had a big gut, thighs, and butt. Lacy was just fat, and looked sloppy in his pads. Having dreads didn't help.

 

[longtimefan]

A good interview here with the P90X guy about his training with Lacy: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/380698881.html

Some interesting nuggets were that Lacy's diet was terrible and that he was drinking a lot (which we already knew because of his sorta benching).

The most concerning part of the article is that the P90X guy said that Lacy had never taken a supplement in his life. Now he has Lacy consuming supplements and formulas made by his company. I really really hope that Lacy cross-referenced the ingredients with the NFL's banned substance lists.

Not to say told u so... But i think I was only one here or other forums posting he had alcohol issues.

Go ahead and search my posts.... Its there... Along with Rodgers having torn meniscus..

But what do I know? Maybe just a really good player?

 

[Patriotplayer90]

If you think he has to be 240 to be powerful and explosive just look at Adrian Peterson. The PERFECT combination of power and speed and he's not a small guy. The difference is his weight is distrubi between the major muscle groups...while lacy had a big gut, thighs, and butt. Lacy was just fat, and looked sloppy in his pads. Having dreads didn't help.

If only Lacy had the work ethic of Peterson. Lacy did look leaner, quicker in college, while still being able to run through tackles.

 

[rodell330]

Not to say told u so... But i think I was only one here or other forums posting he had alcohol issues...

Liking to drink beer and living in Wisconsin is not a good combination haha. Not to mention he probably ate junk everyday. I blame the coaching staff for not addressing this earlier. I remember before the season even started saying lacy looked fat.

 

[rodell330]

If only Lacy had the work ethic of Peterson. Lacy did look leaner, quicker in college, while still being able to run through tackles.

Exactly

 

[Sky King]

Lacy's problems may have contributed to Sam Gash's departure. His presence did not seem to help Lacy.

 

[rodell330]

And again I as

Lacy's problems may have contributed to Sam Gash's departure. His presence did not seem to help Lacy.

And again I ask, where the heck Was the staff? Lacy came into camp overweight last season. Yet mm waited till after this season to address his weight?

 

[OCBP]

And again I as


And again I ask, where the heck Was the staff? Lacy came into camp overweight last season. Yet mm waited till after this season to address his weight?

Interesting that MM has such an opinion on weight and drinking. He could use some cardio training as well.

 

[El Guapo]

No shortage of good and fat coaches in the league. I've seen quite a few fat doctors telling people to lose weight.

Rodell - professional coaches don't quite wield the power that Lombardi had in the 1960s. It's a different game. Once training camp is over the staff has very little control over what a player eats and what he does at night. Lombardi put the Piccadilly off-limits to players, but most of them just started going to Speed's. There's zero chance that MM or any other modern coach could even put a place off-limits anymore.

Pro athletes are managed by their contracts. You are either released or you're on the team. If a player isn't doing as they should, the team only has a few levers to pull. Beyond that it's up to the player to self-motivate in order to get that next contract.