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Cushing wins defensive rookie award in landslide

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  1. KilrB

    KilrB Cheesehead

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    Cushing wins defensive rookie award in landslide | ProFootballTalk.com

    Well deserved. But I thought Mathews deserved more attention than what the other 3 mentioned got.

     
  2. KilrB

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    Didnt Cushing test positive for steroids at one point?
     
  4. Pat4DaPack

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    I thought Matthews should have won, but didn't even come in 2nd?
     
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    I think his overall tackels is what hurt him 52 to Cushings 134! Clay had a great year i do think he should have came in second.. Cushing deserves it though! USC boys coming through in the Big League!!!
     
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    I think they got it right. Matthews is more of a specialist.
     
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    I think the rumors were that both Matthews and Cushing had used steriods, but later that was all proven untrue.
     
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    PFT forgot to add two or three fumbles recovered by matthews. Just saying.

    He also forced 1 against Peterson!
     
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    What probably hurt Mathews was the Packers opponents, not that Houston had all that much of a tougher schedule, but when you play the likes of Browns, Rams, Seattle, detroit (twice), bears (twice), and Tampa you are not going to get the recognition.

    Another knock on Mathews is that he did not start right away, I can't remember when he started to take all the reps at his position, it might have been during the second viking game when he was a full time starter (getting all the reps).

    It kind of comes down to how much value you put on sacks verses tackles. With that said Cushing's force fumbles (2) and INTs (4) are impressive and puts him ahead of Mathews this season. 6 turnovers is a bigger impact on the game as a defensive player than sacks. For me over an above Cushing's tackles these turnovers is where he has clearly played better this year.

    Regardless it will be interesting to watch these players develop as time moves on. Mathews was a late bloomer in college, he may have yet to reach his potential.
     
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    By forced 1 you mean completely raped the ball out of his hands and ran it back for six then yes he forced one alright haha.:happy0005:
     
  11. Hauschild

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    I think Cushing mans the 4-3, correct? Matthews gets to improvise being in a 3-4, which is a much easier way to get sacks and what-not.

    They got this one right. I'm just surprised nobody on here is clamoring that BJ Raji "was robbed". I'll bet if we didn't have Matthews, there would have been some clamoring. :)
     
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    but the Vkings didn't get Matthews? ;)
    :viksux::viksux::viksux::viksux::viksux:
     
  13. Hauschild

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    Well, the Vikes need him now, but they actually really need two NFL-capable safeties. What they have now are two guys akin to starting Mark Roman and Marquand Manuel - just terrible safeties.

    The ironic thing is they have a good rookie safety, but they're afraid to play him. It could be the Vikes undoing.
     
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    Raji has had some explosive plays, but DT's just don't make huge impacts like other positions do when they're rookies. I'm sure there are exceptions, but you just don't see it that much. Raji is definitely no exception, but he looks like he will have a bright future.
     

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