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Who Cousins? Not what the Raiders gave him, that is for sure. People saying that Wilson is too old and washed up, should probably say the same thing about Cousins.

Anyway, we need a reliable, veteran, #2 QB, but not at the price the Raiders paid for Cousins.
I agree about not wanting Cousins. But because he still can play and therefore demands more money. The difference between Cousins and Wilson is night and day imho.
 

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I agree about not wanting Cousins. But because he still can play and therefore demands more money. The difference between Cousins and Wilson is night and day imho.

You could be right, but I think people gauging Wilson for what he did last year with a really terrible Giants team and OL, aren't looking hard enough. He still had a 450 yd. day against the Cowboys with those Giants.

Wilson led the NFL with a 19.2% checkdown rate in 2024, indicating a reliance on safer, shorter passes.

Meanwhile, Cousins is probably a good fit for the Raiders. They are expected to use the #1 pick in the draft on Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza. I doubt they want to put Mendoza's feet to the fire right away and thus will rely on Cousins until he is ready.
 

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You could be right, but I think people gauging Wilson for what he did last year with a really terrible Giants team and OL, aren't looking hard enough. He still had a 450 yd. day against the Cowboys with those Giants.

Wilson led the NFL with a 19.2% checkdown rate in 2024, indicating a reliance on safer, shorter passes.

Meanwhile, Cousins is probably a good fit for the Raiders. They are expected to use the #1 pick in the draft on Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza. I doubt they want to put Mendoza's feet to the fire right away and thus will rely on Cousins until he is ready.
Wilson has been bad with and since Denver. Meanwhile, except having an achilles and having to come back from it; Cousins still plays well. I'll be surprised if he doesn't end up the starter.
 

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Wilson has been bad with and since Denver.

We will have to agree to disagree on this point. Unless of course you were expecting Wilson to play like a top 20 NFL starter. If that is what you want out of a backup QB for the Packers, be prepared for a huge contract. ;)
 
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Agree, I have no interest in bringing him to Green Bay.
The word counterproductive comes to mind. Now could be an exception if it’s mid season and a QB got hurt or some emergency setting. I’m not deliberately planning my future using Russell though, he’s nothing more than a stop gap at this point. Nothing personal he’s had a good career he used to be exciting to watch.
 

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I understand your point. I just don't think Wilson is quite done. He's having to adjust to aging and playing a secondary role. That doesn't come easy.

I'd like to see Ridder play as well. If Gluten was really interested in Wilson, he'd be here already, I think. Let them duke it out in TC and PS.

My guess is that with the draft 2 weeks away, The Packers will hold off on sugning any free agents that may cost them a 2027 comp pick. Also, they may fill needs in the draft.

Aaron Rodgers is still unsigned, as well as undecided as to whether he will play another season. How about bringing old A-Rod back to backup Jordan? :whistling:
 

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Who Cousins? Not what the Raiders gave him, that is for sure. People saying that Wilson is too old and washed up, should probably say the same thing about Cousins.

Anyway, we need a reliable, veteran, #2 QB, but not at the price the Raiders paid for Cousins.
Raiders will spend any time day or night.
 

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That's truly my opinion no matter what. I really don't like Russell Wilson much for a lot of reasons, but I think that he is one of the few decent veteran options left on the market.
Is Trubisky still around?
 

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That's truly my opinion no matter what. I really don't like Russell Wilson much for a lot of reasons, but I think that he is one of the few decent veteran options left on the market.
Yeah Wilson is a concern because of the steep drop off in his play once he left Seattle. Poker pointed out that he should still have enough to manage a game and not make mistakes, and that his very many tears in the league worked to his advantage as a BU.

I hope other options surface in the weeks and months ahead. If it is Wilson, I'm ok with that too. For some reason, Gluten hasn't been able to draft good backup QBs as Wolf did and I think even TT. Of course all three GMs did pretty damn good nailing the starting QB!
 

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Good question milani. I think he is still around. Maybe Pittsburgh?

Of course Gluten can pull Jay Cutler out of retirement - and dog walking. His name belongs in the Lambeau Ring anyway. He is responsible for a lot of wins for GB, includng a trip for GB to the SB because of a hangnail in the NFCCG in 2011, or something.

Please Jay, come back - to Da Bearz!
 
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I can see us drafting a QB, seeing how TC shakes out, and if we don't like our backup QB situation after that, then bringing in a veteran to sit behind Love. Right now, I see them giving Ridder a chance to prove his worth as the backup, with McCord and a late Rd pick or UDFA QB fighting it out for #3.
 

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Good question milani. I think he is still around. Maybe Pittsburgh?

Of course Gluten can pull Jay Cutler out of retirement - and dog walking. His name belongs in the Lambeau Ring anyway. He is responsible for a lot of wins for GB, includng a trip for GB to the SB because of a hangnail in the NFCCG in 2011, or something.

Please Jay, come back - to Da Bearz!
Insignificant, but I always like seeing a former Bear face the Bears. If I am not mistaken the Packers have had ex-Bear QBs on the roster: Jim McMahon, Mike Tomczak, Bobby Douglass, but the one who was a major contributor was Zeke Bratkowksi.
 

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I guess that the backup QB is needed during a game when a QB goes down and you need someone who can at least run the offense. The other need is when you lose a QB like Rodgers for an extended period. Wilson could help finish a game ir two. But in a long term need he probably struggles.
We have had our share of numb nuts on our roster: TJ Rubley, Graham Harrell, and Scott Tolzien.
Good question milani. I think he is still around. Maybe Pittsburgh?

Of course Gluten can pull Jay Cutler out of retirement - and dog walking. His name belongs in the Lambeau Ring anyway. He is responsible for a lot of wins for GB, includng a trip for GB to the SB because of a hangnail in the NFCCG in 2011, or something.

Please Jay, come back - to Da Bearz!

Good question milani. I think he is still around. Maybe Pittsburgh?

Of course Gluten can pull Jay Cutler out of retirement - and dog walking. His name belongs in the Lambeau Ring anyway. He is responsible for a lot of wins for GB, includng a trip for GB to the SB because of a hangnail in the NFCCG in 2011, or something.

Please Jay, come back - to Da
 

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Insignificant, but I always like seeing a former Bear face the Bears. If I am not mistaken the Packers have had ex-Bear QBs on the roster: Jim McMahon, Mike Tomczak, Bobby Douglass, but the one who was a major contributor was Zeke Bratkowksi.
Thanks for the intel milani - I had no idea Bratkowski was an ex-Bear. As I recall, he did well playing when Starr was out.

And yeah, McMahon was the backup QB on the 97 SB team. When the team visited the WH, McMahon wore his old Bears' jersey. What a stupid thing to do. He wasn't an especially good QB either, but he didn't make many mistakes. That 85 SB team was a defensive juggernaut.
 

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Thanks for the intel milani - I had no idea Bratkowski was an ex-Bear. As I recall, he did well playing when Starr was out.

And yeah, McMahon was the backup QB on the 97 SB team. When the team visited the WH, McMahon wore his old Bears' jersey. What a stupid thing to do. He wasn't an especially good QB either, but he didn't make many mistakes. That 85 SB team was a defensive juggernaut.
Zeke was also a Ram, the same team from which we acquired Carroll Dale as Max McGee aged. McMahon was zany. He could read defenses. He provided motivation for the Bears because he drove Ditka nuts and the team loved that. In one of the 80s games against he fumbled on a snap exchange and the refs gave us the ball. When he got to the sideline he kept whining to Ditka that he was on the ball and down. Ditka just told him to calm down and ignored him.
 

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Thanks for the intel milani - I had no idea Bratkowski was an ex-Bear. As I recall, he did well playing when Starr was out.

And yeah, McMahon was the backup QB on the 97 SB team. When the team visited the WH, McMahon wore his old Bears' jersey. What a stupid thing to do. He wasn't an especially good QB either, but he didn't make many mistakes. That 85 SB team was a defensive juggernaut.
You know who is available that I never contemplated...Jimmy Garopollo. He would come cheap. He may retire. Wonder what El Guapo would think. Last former 9er QB we once had was Steve Bono.
 

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Zeke was also a Ram, the same team from which we acquired Carroll Dale as Max McGee aged. McMahon was zany. He could read defenses. He provided motivation for the Bears because he drove Ditka nuts and the team loved that. In one of the 80s games against he fumbled on a snap exchange and the refs gave us the ball. When he got to the sideline he kept whining to Ditka that he was on the ball and down. Ditka just told him to calm down and ignored him.
That's some very interesting player history that I did not know. Thanks milani.
 

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You know who is available that I never contemplated...Jimmy Garopollo. He would come cheap. He may retire. Wonder what El Guapo would think. Last former 9er QB we once had was Steve Bono.
Interesting and I didn't know Garopollo was available. Seems like he fits the definition of a backup QB very well.
 

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prepare for a late round qb draft wrap around. the cupboards are bare.
I think you're right. I'd like to see them bring in Jimmy G. I think Jimmy is better than Ridder. Regardless, I'd like the backup to be a veteran.

Gluten still needs to replenish at backup QB and probably every year, or every other year. Willis leaves a huge void to be filled. I think that's accomplished with a veteran. I was also thinking of Tua T, if he stays in the NFL. Backup is best for him given his concussion history.

Actually what's best for Tua T is to retire. That's a shame but health comes first, always.
 

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I do not want them to use a draft pick on a QB. Prefer UDFA, but I am warming up to the kid from the Volunteers if still there in the 7th round.
 

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I do not want them to use a draft pick on a QB. Prefer UDFA, but I am warming up to the kid from the Volunteers if still there in the 7th round.
Agreed and these guys, esp UDFAs are especially motivated to play well.

They have veteran Ridder on the roster. Gluten doesn't have to reach for a QB and the UDFA route seems the most likely.
 

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I think you're right. I'd like to see them bring in Jimmy G. I think Jimmy is better than Ridder. Regardless, I'd like the backup to be a veteran.

Gluten still needs to replenish at backup QB and probably every year, or every other year. Willis leaves a huge void to be filled. I think that's accomplished with a veteran. I was also thinking of Tua T, if he stays in the NFL. Backup is best for him given his concussion history.

Actually what's best for Tua T is to retire. That's a shame but health comes first, always.
Mainly agree but Willis wasn't a veteran. I think they have to be realistic with those guys and not just keep them on a hope and a prayer. I have thought that Garrapola is a QB with skills but has had bad luck. So I'd be good with that.
 

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prepare for a late round qb draft wrap around. the cupboards are bare.

I hope the Packers don't use a draft pick on a QB, they have their starting QB in Jordan Love for years to come. What they need is an experienced veteran QB to back up Love.

So unless they have some inside information on a Brock Purdy sitting there in the 7th round, stay pat with the QB room. If they aren't happy with Ridder being the #2, bring in another veteran to win the job. If they want to develop a rookie on the Practice squad, there will be plenty of unsigned FA rookie QB's to choose from.
 

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