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AJ Hawk haters.....

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by G0PackG0, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. G0PackG0

    G0PackG0 Cheesehead

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    It seems that you can't win for losing these days. Completely durable, top tackles every season but one since going to Green Bay, running the show out there on D like a seasoned veteran and still the hate. Even in threads that have nothing to do with him, linebackers or even play on the field. I get it if you don't like Ohio State I do. But when your a Packer your a Packer. Hey I have a Woodson jersey and he destroyed the Buckeye's his Heisman year. But he's a Packer now and thats what matters. With all of our injuries the past few years, the one guy playing every game and doing a good job should be applauded not trolled in threads about Greg Jennings contract talks lol
     
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  2. ivo610

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    Are you watching the same AJ hawk I am?

    I'd trade him for a fruit roll up.
     
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  3. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    He does a lot of losing, that's why he can't win.
    Now imagine his stats if he actually ran! Instead he is always three steps behind. You'd think if he was really that intelligent of a player...
    That's the problem, he plays every game, yet doesn't actually play in any. I'll applaud him when he actually does a good job instead of racking up tackle assists/half tackles by flopping on top of a pile.
     
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  4. HardRightEdge

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    Yeah, it's the "but one" that sticks in my craw. After the big contract, his Sundays became a series of business decisions. If you want to assign him a leadership role, then perhaps you should at least partially attribute the shoddy tackling and over-opportunism in the secondary to his poor example.

    I wouldn't go so far as to call it "hate". The roster is set, he's the starter, I wish him the best...nothing would please me more than to see the 2010 Hawk on the field.

    Personally, having no particular affinity for any college program, I could care less where our players come from provided they play well.
     
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  5. 13 Times Champs

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    Exactly. Can't improve on that statement. :tup:

    For the record I don't hate him but he invokes an emotion that comes close to that.
     
  6. ivo610

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    I never hated Jarrett Bush, but I have a strong dislike for Hawk. Maybe it's where they were drafted. Maybe it's the stark improvement of one every season and not the other. Maybe it's because I see one work his *ss off and the other half interested in what he is doing.
     
  7. rodell330

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    AJ Hawk? is that you? lol. Honestly i think Aj Hawk is a decent player but i would have chosen to keep Nick Barnett instead of AJ Hawk. I'm a Buckeye guy by the way.
     
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  8. El Guapo

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    Nope, the grammar was too polished :D
     
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  9. G0PackG0

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    Nick Barnett was another player who was injured all the time.
     
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  10. ivo610

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    only twice in his 9 years has he played less than 15 games.
     
  11. Trapped In Vikingville

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    I dunno..................what flavor fruit rollup?
     
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  12. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    I like the unemotional and even-keeled name for this thread! (Just kidding.) IMO the reason for the negative attitudes directed at Hawk by some Packers fans is almost entirely due to where he was taken in the draft and the expectations that created. He was supposed to be a monster in the middle of the D, with the physical attributes and attitude to punish RBs and cover TEs. Instead he's average, adequate, etc. The coaching staff likes him because he's steady and assignment sure, not because he's the playmaker you'd expect from where he was drafted and how much he's being (and has been) paid.

    Hawk had perhaps his best season in 2010. What surprised me last season was after signing his (too rich) deal, we saw a dramatic drop off. Now, he had a lot of company in that regard as any player on that D who didn't have a drop off was the exception, not the rule. Still I hate to think Hawk's 2010 performance was due to it being basically a contract year (he was due $10M in 2011 via his rookie deal and everyone knew he wasn't going be paid that).

    Here is part of McGinn's season ending grade column comment on Hawk:
    I don't hate Hawk and I'm pretty sure McGinn doesn't either, that's just an honest evaluation of Hawk's 2011 performance. And that's not the performance we should expect from the 27 year-old, 5th player picked in the draft.


    With Bishop out Hawk needs to step up big time this year. He's trimmed down a bit and cut his hair. Let's hope both are signs he's re-dedicated himself. Like I hope all Packers fans, I'm rooting for him.
     
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  13. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

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    He is the biggest pile flopper I have ever seen. (is flopper even a word)
     
  14. burt packerack

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    It's hard for me to hate on Hawk. However it would be nice to improve on his coverage and deliver more punishing hits. He may never be the player that the organization hoped to draft but as long as he is a good player (not even great) then he won't be a bust.
     
  15. Powarun

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    He gave everyone the finger, why not give the finger back to him?
     
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    Honestly, I think it's partially due to the fact that we have so a few really high draft picks. He was supposed to be the bright spot that came out over really poor season. But he never really turned into that shining bright spot that we all hoped he would be.
     
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    Two things to mention here. First, he didn't draft himself at #5. Second, I couldn't care less about "punishing hits." Guys who are head-hunters are among the highest in missed tackles every year.
     
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  18. burt packerack

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    It would still be nice to have someone in the middle that could deliver a blow and cause some forced fumbles instead of pussy footing around. When i say punishing hits I don't necessarily mean at every hit he has, just when he has an opportunity.
     
  19. HyponGrey

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    I don't ask him to get the big hit, the interception, the sack, the forced fumble, or even the TFL. All I want is a decent cut off man who can consistently limit the run to 1 or 2 YPC. Hawk has failed to do that.
     
  20. JBlood

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    When Hawk was a rookie, he was flying around the field and looked to be the fastest linebacker we'd had in some time. What the h happened? I personally think he spends too much time in the weight room and his size has cost him his speed. He really can't cover anyone, unless they happen to run into him.
     
  21. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    I liked Hawk his rookie season. We changed from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He played at the same size in college; he didn really gain any weight. He actually lost weight this year, and I had hoped it would make a difference. NOPE.
     
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    Let's hope the hair-cutting isn't an attempt to make his invisibility more invisible.

    McGinn hit the nail on the head.

    Hawk got paid nearly $10 mil in bonuses in 2011...$8 mil signing and $1.8 mil roster. The entire deal was for about $6.7 mil per year over 5 years, one of the richest ILB contracts in the league. Speaking for myself, I could care less where he was drafted, just as I could care less where he went to school.

    I'll be rooting for a Comeback Player of the Year award.
     
  23. El Guapo

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    There my friends is the most intelligent post yet. If you want to hate someone, hate the Packers for picking Hawk #5. I would like Hawk to play better, but there were ten other Packers starters that played like doggy doo-doo for most of the season. I won't single one of them out at this point, it's just not fair. They all played lazy
     
  24. Einstein McFly

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    A lot of the "hate" isn't that he's that bad, it's that:
    a) He's not as good as a #5 pick is expected to be (as others have said, he didn't draft himself at 5)
    b) How much he's getting paid to be just a serviceable guy (that's on TT, as Hawk or anyone else will get paid every dime he possibly can).

    That said, I was hoping to see Smith and Bishop take over at ILB this year. I guess I only get half of what I wanted.

    By the way, considering the big contracts for real stars we have coming up soon, what's Hawk's contract status? Was all of his money up front and he's cheap from here on out or is it going to be an issue where he'll get cut to save money for others?
     
  25. longtimefan

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/07/a-j-hawk-will-get-almost-11-million-in-2011/

     

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