With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[Dantés]

Could be and I don't have one reporter/news source that I really trust over another. Just like all of us here, everyone has different opinions based on different things, no exact science to it. But if teams have big grades on someone like Lasley, isn't that an indication he is high on some boards?

It would, yes. But it would explain why he suddenly appears on Kiper's board on April 2nd.

My favorite story about the ESPN guys is about McShay. Before the 2012 draft, he put out some blurbs regarding some of the top DL prospects. One of them was Whitney Mercilus. It read something like this: "Mercilus is a classic two-gap nose tackle who can eat blocks and keep his linebackers clean." I was so confused. Obviously Mercilus was a DE/OLB prospect... an edge rusher. But then I noticed a typo in Mercilus' listed weight. Instead of 6'4" 254, it said 6'4" 354. Then it dawned on me. McShay hadn't actually watched Mercilus. He looked at his measurements and made something up that fit.

I don't really trust that either of those guys have ever actually watched the guys they're reporting on. I'm sure they do most of the time. But I also think they're often throwing out cliches that fit the particular prospect's position and size.

 

[brandon2348]

It's such horrible logic to say that because some defensive picks haven't fixed the defense we should pass on drafting defense. Regardless of the side of the ball, they should draft the best players that fit their team needs. It just so happens that most everyone believes the best players in this class other than Nelson, Barkley, and the QB's play on the defensive side of the ball. I happen to agree with them. For the ten thousandth time, I don't have an issue with taking an offensive player if they're good enough. In my opinion, Sutton isn't. If anyone is illogically married to one side of the ball, it's you with this argument that we must take a receiver because the picks spent on defense haven't fixed the defense. Yes, the scheme was a huge problem and that's been addressed in Pettine. That doesn't mean that personnel on defense is no longer a consideration.

What it means is another slap in Aaron Rodgers face. Yeah, fiddle fart around with the defense and continue to use all the major capital defensively while surrounding Rodgers with some 2nd day and predominantly 3rd day talent.

I hope he f*cken leaves. He doesnt deserve this ****.

 

[GleefulGary]

Ummm, maybe he had a bad game. Maybe his QB couldn't get him the ball? Maybe there was pressure up front that distorted passing lanes? Maybe they were giving Hughes help over the top? Probably a combination of many things. There isnt a single prospect in this draft that gets an A+ on every play and every game.

My reasons for not liking Vea go deeper then the Penn State game btw.

Weird. None of that effected his other WR teammate who outproduced Sutton in all of those games. Hmmm....


/Sutton is better than Quinn.

 

[GleefulGary]

What it means is another slap in Aaron Rodgers face. Yeah, fiddle fart around with the defense and continue to use all the major capital defensively while surrounding Rodgers with some 2nd day and predominantly 3rd day talent.

I hope he f*cken leaves. He doesnt deserve this ****.

You are the only person saying we should take somebody from a specific side of the ball. Everybody else is just saying take the best player.

Davante Adams: 2nd day
Jordy Nelson: 2nd day
Greg Jennings: 2nd day
Randall Cobb: 2nd day
Jermichael Finley: 2nd day
Ty Montgomery: 2nd day

What awful talent they've given Rodgers from the 2nd day. Turrible.

 

[Dantés]

What it means is another slap in Aaron Rodgers face. Yeah, fiddle fart around with the defense and continue to use all the major capital defensively while surrounding Rodgers with some 2nd day and predominantly 3rd day talent.

I hope he f*cken leaves. He doesnt deserve this ****.

Why do you expect anyone to take this seriously?

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

It was stated in video of the guys you called "schmucks". His 3 cone is elite for a guy his size. He is also elite in the sense that he did everything well in combine. On the filed he has "elite body control" and is one of the most fluid players ive seen of a guy his size. He is also elite in his physicality after the catch and manhandling DB's in open field. He is a beast. His catch radius is close to elite and he wins 50/50 balls which AR12 loves to throw. He is elite in making acrobatic catches as well. He can play all 3 receiver positions which is very important in Packer offense. He is a willing and a good blocker. So not only does he do so much he is a good scheme fit which is as important to how "elite he is".

Maybe most importantly he has "elite work ethic" which is what made all the greats great like Jerry Rice. Now im not comparing him to Jerry Rice but the sky is the limit for this Sutton kid.

So is he elite?

 

[brandon2348]

So is he elite?

Based on position he is compared to players that will be available such as Landry, Jackson, LVE and Jaire Alexander he is.

Is Mike Evans elite? Cause thats what your getting with Sutton and I expect Sutton to be better then Evans.

 

[brandon2348]

You are the only person saying we should take somebody from a specific side of the ball. Everybody else is just saying take the best player.

Davante Adams: 2nd day
Jordy Nelson: 2nd day
Greg Jennings: 2nd day
Randall Cobb: 2nd day
Jermichael Finley: 2nd day
Ty Montgomery: 2nd day

What awful talent they've given Rodgers from the 2nd day. Turrible.

3 of those guys are no longer on the team and havent been for awhile. So whats left currently? Yeah Ted Thompson depleted the offense by burning gasoline on the defense that we dont have much to show for. Statistically or talent wise.

This is a 3-13 show witbout AR12 so better start using some capital to get him the weapons he deserves. And i dont mean some 5th round guy that is no better then G-Mo.

 

[brandon2348]

Why do you expect anyone to take this seriously?

You know what. Go back to la la land over players were never gonna get cause they wont be there and pretend there is no offensive players better then the next wave of tier 2 options that will become available.

I like Pettine and believe he was the right man for the job but ive been reading posts from "so called draft geniuses" for years on this forum with all these defensive guys that are gonna change the world and its all ammounted to a big pile of ****.

Carry On.

 

[GleefulGary]

3 of those guys are no longer on the team and havent been for awhile. So whats left currently? Yeah Ted Thompson depleted the offense by burning gasoline on the defense that we dont have much to show for. Statistically or talent wise.

This is a 3-13 show witbout AR12 so better start using some capital to get him the weapons he deserves. And i dont mean some 5th round guy that is no better then G-Mo.

I understand they're not here anymore.

You were saying that 2nd day offensive talent is a slap in the face to Rodgers. I posted some of the 2nd day offensive talent that we've drafted, that has been a slap in the face to Rodgers.

The comprehension part is that 2nd day talent isn't bad. It can be, in fact, good. I mean, Courtland Sutton is 2nd day talent that would be a good help for us.

 

[Dantés]

This tantrum is so entertaining.

 

[brandon2348]

I understand they're not here anymore.

You were saying that 2nd day offensive talent is a slap in the face to Rodgers. I posted some of the 2nd day offensive talent that we've drafted, that has been a slap in the face to Rodgers.

The comprehension part is that 2nd day talent isn't bad. It can be, in fact, good. I mean, Courtland Sutton is 2nd day talent that would be a good help for us.

Thats the part you dont get. He may not be top 10 talent but he is day 1 talent. I know thats hard for you to understand and im about done trying to get you to understand.

If Mike Williams went 7th last year then Courtland Sutton is day 1 talent all day long. In fact Sutton has a better overall game then Williams and didnt have the luxury of playing with Desean Watson.

Prototype receivers like Sutton dont grow on trees and everyone wants them so you can throw all the salt you want but its gonna be just like the combine all over again with you guys. Just wait.

Ive read and seen several places where WR is a spot Packers are targeting in 1st round so you guys might just have to deal with it. And trust me when I say you will thank me later cause Sutton is gonna be an absolute Beast.

 

[thequick12]

I'm super optimistic about the season. I think both the offense and defense will be improved. And as always draft playmakers within reason

Based on position he is compared to players that will be available such as Landry, Jackson, LVE and Jaire Alexander he is.

Is Mike Evans elite? Cause thats what your getting with Sutton and I expect Sutton to be better then Evans.

No Mike Evans is not elite he's good but not great.

 

[brandon2348]

If Dinosaur Ted was GM there would be zero chance he would draft Sutton in 1st round. He is to stubborn to do it. But guess what? We got a new sherriff and I believe Gute understands the importance of this selection and giving Rodgers another coveted weapon that he deserves to help make our offense unstoppable.

It truly has the potential to be "Amazing"

You guys are gonna love it and dont worry. We have plenty of picks left to pick up some good press corners and fast LB's later because there is a bunch of them.

 

[thequick12]

I'll say it now there is zero chance that gute takes Sutton in the first round. How many times have you seen any gm from the wolf tree draft a receiver in round 1. Granted one of wolf's biggest regrets as gm was passing on Randy Moss in the first because of off the field concerns.

 

[thequick12]

The list of offensive players that I would take at 14 and I believe the Packers would is limited to
Saquon Barkley and Quentin Nelson

 

[brandon2348]

I'm super optimistic about the season. I think both the offense and defense will be improved. And as always draft playmakers within reason


No Mike Evans is not elite he's good but not great.

So envision Adams, Graham, Cobb and Mike Evans with Aaron Jones in backfield and AR12 behind center.

The sum of all that is "elite"

 

[brandon2348]

I'll say it now there is zero chance that gute takes Sutton in the first round. How many times have you seen any gm from the wolf tree draft a receiver in round 1. Granted one of wolf's biggest regrets as gm was passing on Randy Moss in the first because of off the field concerns.

Times have changed. Schnieder traded a 1st for both Harvin and Graham. McKenzie drafted Amari Cooper. Dorsey dropped his pants to sign Jarvis Landry. Andy Reid and Co. Dropped there pants for Sammy Watkins. Gute was an aggressive player on Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins and also brought Jordan Matthews in for visit. The Ted Thompson rust has worn off and thank god. Were gonna see a whole new plan of attack and getting Aaron Rodgers a weapon opposite Devante should be project number 1.

Gute signed Wilkerson and Graham which were one and two on my list. Now time to go for the trifecta with Sutton.

You guys are gonna love it.

 

[Dantés]

For the record, I thought the Mike Williams pick was horrible.

 

[Snoops]

Depending on how the draft goes I think D.J. Moore is a very strong candidate to be there second pick wouldn’t even surprise me if they trade up to get him in the draft late first early second.. he is there guy at receiver... and honestly he is good as s**t.. they should not draft offense with there first pick we need defense..not even if Barkley is there... we are perfectly fine at RB I love jones and Williams is a beast there would be absolutely no reason to draft Barkley just cuz of the buzz and hype.. DEFENSE is crucial to our success we need Rodgers to have the ball at least 2-3 more times a game at least they could be unstoppable.. optimistic of course but yeah I also suspect Green Bay to trade up multiple times maybe late back in the first for Moore or early second but I’d like to see multiple picks high in the second round they got the ammo to do it.. again take this for what’s its worth all my opinion

 

[brandon2348]

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"Run to the podium to take Sutton at 45" LMAO. I needed a good laugh.

No way no how he is gonna be there at 45. The correct move is trade back out of 14 unless one of the elite defensive players drops by an act of god and get another day 2 pick. This way we can get the receiver we desperately need(that fits our scheme) while having plenty of good picks to draft some defensive gems which will please the masses and the peanut gallery on here.

The key player will be Dallas at 19. They will scoop Sutton up in a heartbeat.

 

[Snoops]

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"Run to the podium to take Sutton at 45" LMAO. I needed a good laugh.

No way no how he is gonna be there at 45. The correct move is trade back out of 14 unless one of the elite defensive players drops by an act of god and get another day 2 pick. This way we can get the receiver we desperately need(that fits our scheme) while having plenty of good picks to draft some defensive gems which will please the masses and the peanut gallery on here.

The key player will be Dallas at 19. They will scoop Sutton up in a heartbeat.

I’m not here to disagree with anything ur saying at all but I do wanna say u have a man crush and a massive b*n*r for Sutton. But hey when u want ur guy u want ur guy! Lmao!! I was the same way with joe Mixon last year I wanted him with there first round pick

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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"Run to the podium to take Sutton at 45" LMAO. I needed a good laugh.

No way no how he is gonna be there at 45. The correct move is trade back out of 14 unless one of the elite defensive players drops by an act of god and get another day 2 pick. This way we can get the receiver we desperately need(that fits our scheme) while having plenty of good picks to draft some defensive gems which will please the masses and the peanut gallery on here.

The key player will be Dallas at 19. They will scoop Sutton up in a heartbeat.

So what you are saying is that if Dallas doesn't grab Sutton, he slides into Round 2?

 

[brandon2348]

I’m not here to disagree with anything ur saying at all but I do wanna say u have a man crush and a massive b*n*r for Sutton. But hey when u want ur guy u want ur guy! Lmao!! I was the same way with joe Mixon last year I wanted him with there first round pick

Yesssssss! I wanted Mixon too and I firmly belive if it werent for Dinasour Ted we would have him. Sources came out that Packer scouts loved Mixon. Mixon btw has been a role model citizen in Cinncy.

Could you imagine Adams, Sutton, Graham, Cobb and Mixon out there with AR12. The NFL would have to change the rules. Lol. We really wouldnt even need a FG kicker. ****, we could even go for 2 everytime.

 

[brandon2348]

So what you are saying is that if Dallas doesn't grab Sutton, he slides into Round 2?

I would be about as shocked that Sutton makes it to 2nd round as Saquon Barkley making it to 14.

I really dont see him getting past Dallas. They know his value. He is a bigger Dez without the head case issues.