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Using our second rounder(s) to trade up?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by TheDesertFox, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. TheDesertFox

    TheDesertFox Cheesehead

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    If we don't draft defense, I'd like to see us trade up and take Felix Jones. This guy is highly underrated as he played behind McFadden, but he is a total freak. Back in the Capitol One bowl he actually put about 100 more yards on us than McFadden did, I believe.

    What say you?
     
  2. packersfan4life

    packersfan4life Cheesehead

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    There is a slight possibility that the Packers could trade up, but I don't think it would be for Felix Jones. The Packers need more of a bruiser type running back, not a speed guy. I think there will be good running backs available in the second and third rounds...Forte and Rice.
     
  3. bozz_2006

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    I say that if a player is on the board that Ted really really wants, he won't hesitate to make a move in an attempt to move up the board. i don't know who this mystery player could be. but a scenario in the 1st round of swapping 1st round picks with a team and then throwing in one of our 2nd round picks (probably #57) is plausible
     
  4. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    if you use that draft value chart thing, and the pack toss in their #1, and the TWO #2's they have now, they would only move up to around 10th



    is that worth it ?

    i dont think so myself...
     
  5. TheDesertFox

    TheDesertFox Cheesehead

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    I would never get rid of both our 2nds, and neither would TT. I think with our 1st and the 57 we could move up to around 20 though, to a team that doesn't have any high needs they couldn't get in the 2nd.
     
  6. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    thats the point, why dump #57 to move up 10 spots?

    I say no way

    Right now they will have 3 picks in top 61

    if they trade away #57 they only have 2 in top 60
     
  7. Tiger

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    i actually would be happy for TT to get as many 2nd round picks as possible, thats where the real quality and value for money is.
     
  8. bozz_2006

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    admittedly, i didn't look at the that draft value chart thing at all, and you make a good point. from what you say LT, I don't see much reason why TT would package that stuff to move up in the 1st.
     
  9. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    i dont like the value thing either, but thought some people would understand it better.

    Would Cromartie move up that far with his excellent combine? Is the an absolute stud o-l that would be there? What about a safety?

    Those are the 3 i think the Packers would truly drool over if available at the #10 spot
     
  10. LordEvil

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    i dont see the pack taking rb this year. i see o-line help d-line, te and dbs. but trading up to grab one the the top d-lineman would be great. like to see the pack with 2 big guys in the middle.
     
  11. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    I think you guys are way off base with the the, "I think the packers are going to take this position, or that position." read this.
     
  12. bigfog

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    Ray Rice baby!

    Actually - what do you guys think the chances are that the 2nd is used on a quarterback?
     
  13. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Yup BPA!!

    However form that article

    but then there is this form same article

    Okay going by the last bold sentence what would be the specific need?

    And what Fa are out there that could and would meet the criteria Ted MIGHt be looking for
     
  14. Tiger

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    TT's scouting is both mysterious and brilliant, who on earth had heard of Ryan Grant last year and even guys like John Kuhn. Face facts guys TT is The ScoutMeister :)
     
  15. bozz_2006

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    Agreed! and to be clear, i am not saying that, in a specific situation, in a specific round, TT wouldn't decide to draft a certain player because he would fill a certain need. rather, i am saying that TT won't go into the draft saying, "we're gonna take a CB in round 1, a TE in round 2, a G in round 3, etc...."
     
  16. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Yes that i agree with and I think that a majority of teams probably do something similar
     
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    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    right. but so many people on this board are saying ted will probably take a te in round 1, a cb in round 2, etc... so apparently it's not as obvious as it would seem.
     
  18. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    that is the prob I see..

    Say they are at the #1 pick and they have determined a clear need ( what ever it is )

    The feel the bpa is rated by them just a pinch more above the player that would fit their needs, what do they do
     
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    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    that's why teddy gets paid the big bucks
     
  20. all about da packers

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    I think they go with the player that fits their need.

    'Just a pinch more' isn't enough to convince me to go BPA solely, Ted said usually his picks have BPA meshed together (in at least some small degree) with need.
     
  21. Zombieslayer

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    TT loves his 2nds. I can't think of all of them off the top of my head, but we got Gregorious in the 2nd. The 2nd round seems to be where you can find some real gems when other GMs are picking needs instead of BPA.
     
  22. bozz_2006

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    i don't like the "prima donna" complex that some (not all) first rounders get.
     
  23. Zombieslayer

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    Me neither. The 2nd is magical. You sometimes get people who should have been drafted in the first round (Gregorious immediately comes to mind) that got overlooked for some reason, and you don't have to pay 1st round prices, nor deal with 1st round egos.

    It's brilliant. More 2nd round picks, please! :cool:
     
  24. dannychau22

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    i don't know if it's just me but i have a feeling that TT is gonna suprise us and draft someone we don't really know anything about that looks to be a reach aha
     
  25. bozz_2006

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    so... you think that TT signing someone whom we don't know will be a surprise?
     

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