Trade Malik Willis

[El Guapo]

I heard someone recently float the notion of trading Willis before the season starts. He's obviously shown that he can come in and win games. He's looked pretty good in camp and really good yesterday in the joint practice with Seattle. The reason for doing this would be that we could potentially swap for a position of need. The reason against doing this is that I'm not sold on Sean Clifford coming in and winning games. With Jordan Love's recent history of injuries, I don't think that we can afford to have anyone but Willis as the #2 QB.

Thoughts?

Do we need a capable #2 more than we need another CB, DE, or WR?

 

[OldSchool101]

I heard someone recently float the notion of trading Willis before the season starts. He's obviously shown that he can come in and win games. He's looked pretty good in camp and really good yesterday in the joint practice with Seattle. The reason for doing this would be that we could potentially swap for a position of need. The reason against doing this is that I'm not sold on Sean Clifford coming in and winning games. With Jordan Love's recent history of injuries, I don't think that we can afford to have anyone but Willis as the #2 QB.

Thoughts?

Do we need a capable #2 more than we need another CB, DE, or WR?

I’ll only say this. I have a good #2 QB as the most important backup of all. I’d prefer we wait and get a 2027 Comp pick for Malik. The only exception is if someone comes knocking with an overpayment I can’t refuse. A 2026 Day 1 swap for our 3rd Rounder etc. A 2nd and 4th Rounders straight up.

 

[Pkrjones]

If a starting QB does go down for the year I would think there are other backups that would be traded for before Willis, imho. Cousins, Russll Wilson, Jameis Winston, Jimmy G, or Andy Dalton would all be more experienced options. Willis is cheap, though.

 

[El Guapo]

If a starting QB does go down for the year I would think there are other backups that would be traded for before Willis, imho. Cousins, Russll Wilson, Jameis Winston, Jimmy G, or Andy Dalton would all be more experienced options. Willis is cheap, though.

In addition to those considerations, a team has to have a capable QB3 to step into the backup role. The NY Giants have Dart, Wilson, Winston, and DeVito on their depth chart, so could and likely will try to trade one of them away. On the other hand, if Atlanta traded Cousins they would now only have Stick or DiNucci as QB2. Therefore, Atlanta may not want to make that trade. The same with the Rams and Garoppolo. Maybe they like Stetson Bennett enough to make him a QB2, but maybe not.

I think that the Packers are in the same position. Is Clifford solid enough to keep the team afloat if he's QB2 and needs to go into the game?

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

If Gute can find someone to give him a 3rd round pick for Malik, he would trade him in a heartbeat. No one wants to give a 3rd. Won't see Malik moved until next offseason. Get a good prospect in the 2026 draft. Malik is a fine backup, but you will see tonite, he isn't a cat a team would ever want to have as their long term starter.

 

[gopkrs]

That does sound about right Packer Nation. But I hope LaFleur really does give him a chance to show well today. Which would mean playing with our 1 O line and running a bunch of real and fake RPOs. bears and Chiefs played starters most of the first half yesterday it looked like. The other thing is, I'd love to see the Canadien do well. He's got a big arm..
I just realized there aren't any fake RPOs. But I meant run some with the intent to pass and some with the run being the first choice.

 

[milani]

I heard someone recently float the notion of trading Willis before the season starts. He's obviously shown that he can come in and win games. He's looked pretty good in camp and really good yesterday in the joint practice with Seattle. The reason for doing this would be that we could potentially swap for a position of need. The reason against doing this is that I'm not sold on Sean Clifford coming in and winning games. With Jordan Love's recent history of injuries, I don't think that we can afford to have anyone but Willis as the #2 QB.

Thoughts?

Do we need a capable #2 more than we need another CB, DE, or WR?

Yes. Simply because you can acquire one at those positions and he can adapt quickly. Not so at QB. In 2013 we had to resign Matt Flynn to help save our season when Rodgers went down. The thought of a Scott Tolzien on our roster is frightening. And Love is not Favre when it comes to health.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If a starting QB does go down for the year I would think there are other backups that would be traded for before Willis, imho. Cousins, Russll Wilson, Jameis Winston, Jimmy G, or Andy Dalton would all be more experienced options. Willis is cheap, though.

Yeah Willis would not be expensive, and I think he's a better choice over the other guys you listed because of his age.

This is a big year for the Packers, and Love has had too many injuries IMO. I'd rather keep Willis around for this season than pursue a trade. And Clifford has been very streaky.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Yes. Simply because you can acquire one at those positions and he can adapt quickly. Not so at QB. In 2013 we had to resign Matt Flynn to help save our season when Rodgers went down. The thought of a Scott Tolzien on our roster is frightening. And Love is not Favre when it comes to health.

Yeah Love is developing a very bad injury history. Best to keep Willis this year than try to trade him. And Clifford hasn't shown much other than inconsistency.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If Gute can find someone to give him a 3rd round pick for Malik, he would trade him in a heartbeat. No one wants to give a 3rd. Won't see Malik moved until next offseason. Get a good prospect in the 2026 draft. Malik is a fine backup, but you will see tonite, he isn't a cat a team would ever want to have as their long term starter.

Sounds like a very good description of Willis, and that the wise choice is for GB to keep him as Love's backup.

If a starter goes down during the season (make that when), a GM might be willing to give up a 3rd for Willis. Not very likely but that would be a good deal to make imo.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Yes. Simply because you can acquire one at those positions and he can adapt quickly. Not so at QB. In 2013 we had to resign Matt Flynn to help save our season when Rodgers went down. The thought of a Scott Tolzien on our roster is frightening. And Love is not Favre when it comes to health.

Geez no player is Favre when it comes to health - or maybe it's best to say that Favre would never bench himself.

With the new concussion protocols, Favre's consecutive start streak will likely never be challenged. My favorite "play through any injury" is when he hurt his right (throwing hand) thumb. My god his palm and hand were as big as a grapefruit. I still have no idea how he managed to grip the ball and play at all through that one.

 

[milani]

Geez no player is Favre when it comes to health - or maybe it's best to say that Favre would never bench himself.

With the new concussion protocols, Favre's consecutive start streak will likely never be challenged. My favorite "play through any injury" is when he hurt his right (throwing hand) thumb. My god his palm and hand were as big as a grapefruit. I still have no idea how he managed to grip the ball and play at all through that one.

My favorite play through was when he took the sack and concussion against the Giants. He went out for one play, charged back out to the huddle, called the play, and proceeded to throw a TD! Mike Sherman was like " What the hell just happened? "

 

[Thirteen Below]

Won't see Malik moved until next offseason. Get a good prospect in the 2026 draft

Get a good prospect in exchange for Malik? How are we going to do that? He's a free agent after this season. We won't get a thing for him.

 

[milani]

Get a good prospect in exchange for Malik? How are we going to do that? He's a free agent after this season. We won't get a thing for him.

There is always the Raiders. They have a history of being conned.

 

[tynimiller]

There is always the Raiders. They have a history of being conned.

He has to be moved by the trade deadline for this - there is nothing to "con" after that.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Get a good prospect in exchange for Malik? How are we going to do that? He's a free agent after this season. We won't get a thing for him.

NEVER said get a QB in the draft "in exchange" for Malik. Why do people here attempt to twist my words so often? Almost like you are constantly attempting to put words in my mouth to try to prove me wrong about something. Good luck with that, I am rarely wrong. Now the attempts to twist my words will increase. Too funny.

Honestly, it's hilarious.

Malik is not getting moved until next offseason. When he is moved, Gute will have a backup in place, probably by getting a QB in the 2026 draft.

 

[Thirteen Below]

NEVER said get a QB in the draft "in exchange" for Malik. Why do people here attempt to twist my words so often? Almost like you are constantly attempting to put words in my mouth to try to prove me wrong about something. Good luck with that, I am rarely wrong. Now the attempts to twist my words will increase. Too funny.

Honestly, it's hilarious.

Malik is not getting moved until next offseason. When he is moved, Gute will have a backup in place, probably by getting a QB in the 2026 draft.

What is wrong with you, anyway? You're the most belligerent and confrontational poster I've ever seen here, and I've been here 8 years under two different usernames.

The way you worded that post was ambiguous and unclear, so OK - I misunderstood you. That happens sometimes, but it's not a good reason to fly off the handle and accuse me of deliberately picking on you. Why the hell would I do that?

Get over yourself, dude. Read the room. This isn't that kind of a forum.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

What is wrong with you, anyway? You're the most belligerent and confrontational poster I've ever seen here, and I've been here 8 years under two different usernames.

The way you worded that post was ambiguous and unclear, so OK - I misunderstood you. That happens sometimes, but it's not a good reason to fly off the handle and accuse me of deliberately picking on you. Why the hell would I do that?

Get over yourself, dude. Read the room. This isn't that kind of a forum.

I think you take this forum a little too seriously. I never "accused you of deliberately picking on" me.

There is evidence of you trying to put words in my mouth in your comments, and further evidence of it above. It's fine, amusing to me.

I laugh it off, it's merely words on a screen.

Have a wonderful evening, I know I will!

OneTeamOneNation
PackerNation!

 

[GreenNGold_81]

The time to trade him was at the end of last season. He's not really standing out in the preseason games. I doubt he has a lot of value. That said, the Raiders just lost their backup QB to a broken wrist for the next 6-8 weeks. So, I agree with the above poster who said go see if you can fleece the Raiders. Otherwise, get that comp pick next year or sign him to a cheap contract if nobody else wins the job. Elgersma seems to be our project now. Clifford I think we can let walk.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Otherwise, get that comp pick next year or sign him to a cheap contract if nobody else wins the job. Elgersma seems to be our project now. Clifford I think we can let walk.

We wouldn't get the comp pick until 2027, but it would probably be at least a 4th. Gute loves his 4th rounders.

I agree about Clifford and Elgersma. It's disappointing, because in Clifford's 1st camp, he really looked promising. In retrospect, 3 camps later, it appears he just had a hot streak at the time. He's never looked the same since.

 

[milani]

He has to be moved by the trade deadline for this - there is nothing to "con" after that.

He is staying put.

 

[tynimiller]

He is staying put.

Not saying he is going anywhere, but in order to get a guy back that is the scenario that would need to play out is all.

 

[Heyjoe4]

My favorite play through was when he took the sack and concussion against the Giants. He went out for one play, charged back out to the huddle, called the play, and proceeded to throw a TD! Mike Sherman was like " What the hell just happened? "

He really did some amazing stuff. I think my favorite game was on a Monday night in Oakland, just a few days after his father passed away.

Favre had a career game with, I think, 399 yards. When it came to playing football, there is no one else quite like Favre.

 

[El Guapo]

Not saying he is going anywhere, but in order to get a guy back that is the scenario that would need to play out is all.

...and this is the point. He could get traded/swapped for a position of need at roster cut-downs but it is most likely that he is not going anywhere. If he is dealt in 2025 it will be before the trade deadline to a desperate team.

 

[El Guapo]

My favorite play through was when he took the sack and concussion against the Giants. He went out for one play, charged back out to the huddle, called the play, and proceeded to throw a TD! Mike Sherman was like " What the hell just happened? "

....and we wonder why Favre has had *issues* towards the end of his career and afterward. He never made the greatest decisions even before he became a HOF quarterback. A bunch of head slaps from Warren Sapp and others seems to have made it worse.

On a side note, I watched the 30 for 30 on Junior Seau the other week. It was sad to hear about how all of the concussions changed him from an outgoing, gregarious person into a recluse with anger and emotional issues before finally committing suicide. I poked fun of Favre (above) but the injuries that we all "remember fondly" certainly have real impacts on the players in the long term. Players go back out there for the team, their teammates, and the roar of the crowd...but it's rarely worth it in retrospect.

For his long term quality of life, I hope that Jordan starts a healthy streak going forward. That would also make the Malik situation so much easier.