Trade Malik Willis

[tynimiller]

Browning is a good QB IMO. Cincy wants someone that can win all season - that's Willis. Browning can win you some games - that's what we would need at a minimum.

Oh for sure, he'd be a better peace offering back than many teams can provide for sure.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I said this in the other Malik trade thread, but if we traded him (which I am not in favor of) I would demand a decent backup QB in exchange plus a draft pick. If it's Cincy, I want Browning for Willis plus maybe their 3rd round pick.

I'm not sacrificing a potential SB run this season just to get a future draft pick.

I agree with @tynimiller, if a team wants to trade for Willis, it is because their QB situation is in dire straights and they don't have someone better than Willis.

You nailed it though....the Packers are a potential Super Bowl team this season and it would be absolutely foolish to part with Willis. I have been saying this for months, Malik Willis is a key component of the roster and unless one of Clifford or Elgersma had really stepped up and looked ready to play as a starter, then Willis possibly becomes trade bait. Both got cut and until yesterday, weren't even on an NFL team.

Anyone touting a Malik Willis trade needs to tell me just how confident they would be in the Packers if suddenly Clayton Tune was the Packers starting QB.

I am going to be bold and say this, Willis is no longer tradeable, I wouldn't even take a 1st rounder for him at this point. You may laugh and say that he isn't worth a 1st round pick, but I will say that right now, he is to the Packers.

 

[tynimiller]

I agree with @tynimiller, if a team wants to trade for Willis, it is because their QB situation is in dire straights and they don't have someone better than Willis.

You nailed it though....the Packers are a potential Super Bowl team this season and it would be absolutely foolish to part with Willis. I have been saying this for months, Malik Willis is a key component of the roster and unless one of Clifford or Elgersma had really stepped up and looked ready to play as a starter, then Willis possibly becomes trade bait. Both got cut and until yesterday, weren't even on an NFL team.

Anyone touting a Malik Willis trade needs to tell me just how confident they would be in the Packers if suddenly Clayton Tune was the Packers starting QB.

I am going to be bold and say this, Willis is no longer tradeable, I wouldn't even take a 1st rounder for him at this point. You may laugh and say that he isn't worth a 1st round pick, but I will say that right now, he is to the Packers.

I understand the sentiment but if I'm in the GM's seat, there isn't a back up on the team that isn't tradeable for the right amount of return. I know I've presented both arguments for and against trading multiple guys - but in the end the decision to trade or not trade a guy in a year where you seemed to have a legit window for the Bowl does add some complexity to it for sure for Gute and Co.

You also though have to factor in injuries because they can hit at any point and be a wrinkle to the fabric of a team as well.

I still say or lean that there is a higher percent chance that someone is getting traded vs not. Now I'm more like 55%/45% or even closer to 50/50 but I think I am still there. The roster structure, turnover issues of likely departures for nothing and such are just something I know Gute doesn't like.

BUT one counter to this is the fact that we shored up Watson for a year - delaying his future discussion, we gave Wyatt the 5th year option - delaying his one year, we are seemingly trying to shore up Quay for a two or three year time - delaying his as well....the list of potential guys that could leave in FA is shrinking - which does I think lesson the odds - BUT one thing a buddy reminded me was we essentially just massively INCREASED the issues next year - which doubles down the logic of we are pushing ALL IN for two seasons (this year and next). The offseason after next season we have this GROUP EXPIRING CONTRACTS:

Reed
Wicks
Kraft
Musgrave
Wooden
Brooks
Valentine
NEWLY ADDED:
Watson
Wyatt

LVN potentially if we don't pick up 5th year option.

Now to be fair it's a discussion which doesn't need handled right now. BUT if they get Quay extended....you essentially despite having limited draft picks this next year, I argue our future needs align with having no Day1 pick to bolster and replenish:

TE - historically amazing TEs can be had Day2...this one clearly needing someone added is not a bad thing at all with limited draft capital IMO.
WR - Gute has proven fully capable of Day2 and early Day3 locating solid WR4 type guys at worst...
DL - Depth along the front has been a very hit or miss thing but that is how it is across the NFL...if Warren Brinson and Stackhouse show immense potential solid chance we only need another depth rotational guy.

 

[gopkrs]

My take is that right now we have great chemistry along with some depth. That equates to a superbowl run and I don't want to mess with that situation. There might be something that could be done w/o affecting the chemistry part; but I'm for standing pat unless an injury really affects the depth part and it becomes apparent that we need something.

 

[tynimiller]

My take is that right now we have great chemistry along with some depth. That equates to a superbowl run and I don't want to mess with that situation. There might be something that could be done w/o affecting the chemistry part; but I'm for standing pat unless an injury really affects the depth part and it becomes apparent that we need something.

Between the movement of Watson and Wyatt's contracts, getting Tom signed and if Quay gets extended + Reed injury I think that pushes the likelihood extremely low unless of course a too sweet of a deal comes in.

The name that I think is left that actually might be the most likely is Kingsley Enagbare....with Cox/Sorrell and Oliver perhaps and the signing of Parsons - I think he could be easily moved without impacting the team much. Now is he going to net you a ton, of course not, but I think the way Gute and Russ are structuring our window push, we might be active in this coming FA which means Enagbare ain't getting us a compensatory pick so get a 6th now for a guy that is going and we hope isn't playing a ton of snaps anyways with the roster growth elsewhere.

Outside of Enagbare I think Gute's going to need a "surprise level package offer" for anyone else at this point to say yes.

 

[gopkrs]

Between the movement of Watson and Wyatt's contracts, getting Tom signed and if Quay gets extended + Reed injury I think that pushes the likelihood extremely low unless of course a too sweet of a deal comes in.

The name that I think is left that actually might be the most likely is Kingsley Enagbare....with Cox/Sorrell and Oliver perhaps and the signing of Parsons - I think he could be easily moved without impacting the team much. Now is he going to net you a ton, of course not, but I think the way Gute and Russ are structuring our window push, we might be active in this coming FA which means Enagbare ain't getting us a compensatory pick so get a 6th now for a guy that is going and we hope isn't playing a ton of snaps anyways with the roster growth elsewhere.

Outside of Enagbare I think Gute's going to need a "surprise level package offer" for anyone else at this point to say yes.

I've seen Enagbare do some good things on the field this year. He's part of the chemistry imho. That one bonehead play...I doubt he ever does something like that again.

 

[tynimiller]

I've seen Enagbare do some good things on the field this year. He's part of the chemistry imho. That one bonehead play...I doubt he ever does something like that again.

Oh I'm not saying it from a he sucks get him out...it is a nature of what we have. He already even with Parsons on a snapcount seeing the lowest amount of usage % wise per game than he has his entire career (only 30%).

As Parsons amps up snapcount and Barryn comes back and Cox has been doing great, not too mention you still got LVN and Gary...he is the only guy that I think anyone that approaches the concept unbiasedly would say "Yes, he makes the most sense IF a trade were to happen" is all I'm saying.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I understand the sentiment but if I'm in the GM's seat, there isn't a back up on the team that isn't tradeable for the right amount of return. I know I've presented both arguments for and against trading multiple guys - but in the end the decision to trade or not trade a guy in a year where you seemed to have a legit window for the Bowl does add some complexity to it for sure for Gute and Co.

You also though have to factor in injuries because they can hit at any point and be a wrinkle to the fabric of a team as well.

I still say or lean that there is a higher percent chance that someone is getting traded vs not. Now I'm more like 55%/45% or even closer to 50/50 but I think I am still there. The roster structure, turnover issues of likely departures for nothing and such are just something I know Gute doesn't like.

BUT one counter to this is the fact that we shored up Watson for a year - delaying his future discussion, we gave Wyatt the 5th year option - delaying his one year, we are seemingly trying to shore up Quay for a two or three year time - delaying his as well....the list of potential guys that could leave in FA is shrinking - which does I think lesson the odds - BUT one thing a buddy reminded me was we essentially just massively INCREASED the issues next year - which doubles down the logic of we are pushing ALL IN for two seasons (this year and next). The offseason after next season we have this GROUP EXPIRING CONTRACTS:

Reed
Wicks
Kraft
Musgrave
Wooden
Brooks
Valentine
NEWLY ADDED:
Watson
Wyatt

LVN potentially if we don't pick up 5th year option.

Now to be fair it's a discussion which doesn't need handled right now. BUT if they get Quay extended....you essentially despite having limited draft picks this next year, I argue our future needs align with having no Day1 pick to bolster and replenish:

TE - historically amazing TEs can be had Day2...this one clearly needing someone added is not a bad thing at all with limited draft capital IMO.
WR - Gute has proven fully capable of Day2 and early Day3 locating solid WR4 type guys at worst...
DL - Depth along the front has been a very hit or miss thing but that is how it is across the NFL...if Warren Brinson and Stackhouse show immense potential solid chance we only need another depth rotational guy.

While I agree on looking at trades and no backup is safe, I think with the Packers, their backup QB, Malik Willis, isn't, nor should be on any trade table. This is a high potential Super Bowl team that could suffer a blow to any starter and probably absorb it. Now if that starter was Jordan Love and Willis wasn't on the team, forget any chance of a Super Bowl.

I will say that yesterday the Packers worked out Dorian Thompson-Robinson, but I don't see him as a replacement for Willis, more of a possible replacement of Clayton Tune.

 

[Heyjoe4]

According to Easton Butler of 247 Sports’ Packer Report, the Bengals inquired about a trade for backup quarterback Malik Willis. Butler later tweeted that Cincinnati offered its 2026 sixth-round pick in exchange for Willis.

That would be about THE stupidest trade that the Packers could make.

This is a very solid team, but if they lose Love to injury.....and don't have Willis....good bye season.

If I were Gute, I would put on my answering machine:

"Hi Brian Gute here. If you are calling to inquire about a trade for Malik Willis please hang up if you are looking at anything less than a 2nd round pick. Even then, its probably a no"...*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

Agreed. I don't see them trading Willis from what now appears to be a true SB team. Love still hasn't played a complete, dominant season as a starter. A 2nd round pick would be enticing, just don't see it happening.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Oh I'm not saying it from a he sucks get him out...it is a nature of what we have. He already even with Parsons on a snapcount seeing the lowest amount of usage % wise per game than he has his entire career (only 30%).

As Parsons amps up snapcount and Barryn comes back and Cox has been doing great, not too mention you still got LVN and Gary...he is the only guy that I think anyone that approaches the concept unbiasedly would say "Yes, he makes the most sense IF a trade were to happen" is all I'm saying.

I like Engabare, but I think what we've seen is pretty much what he has to offer. I doubt that anyone is getting traded now - but IF, then yeah, he'd be a candidate. I doubt MLF or Hafley are interested in any disruptions to this D.

 

[tynimiller]

I'll actually go even further, unless injury happens in the edge room I predict by seasons' end that Enagbare is likely around 15-20% snaps...or just a few snaps a game.

 

[OldSchool101]

I’m pretty confident if someone offered a 2nd Rounder straight up in 2026 that Gute would move Malik. From reports I’ve heard a 4th was the best offer and who knows if it had contingencies attached.

Imo Malik stays. If Allen Lazard netted us a 5th RD comp last year? Id guess Malik might snag us a 4th RD? compensatory selection in 2027. That’s a great return we traded a 7th Rounder, then we get a couple of years of QB2 and we get a 4th RD kick back. No good reason to get jumpy.

 

[tynimiller]

I’m pretty confident if someone offered a 2nd Rounder straight up in 2026 that Gute would move Malik. From reports I’ve heard a 4th was the best offer and who knows if it had contingencies attached.

Imo Malik stays. If Allen Lazard netted us a 5th RD comp last year? Id guess Malik might snag us a 4th RD? compensatory selection in 2027. That’s a great return we traded a 7th Rounder, then we get a couple of years of QB2 and we get a 4th RD kick back. No good reason to get jumpy.

I concur I think if someone gets to a 2nd he likely would take it. I am just not sure that's ever going to happen unless it costs us a 4th or 5th also back. Something which Gute likely and hopefully never does.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Butler later tweeted that Cincinnati offered its 2026 sixth-round pick in exchange for Willis.

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[Firethorn1001]

Love still hasn't played a complete, dominant season as a starter.

I hope you aren't even remotely suggesting that Willis shouldn't be traded because Love could be benched.

 

[XPack]

Traded to Jets? Or fake news?

Green Bay Packers Trade Malik Willis To The New York Jets

This time around, though, it won’t be the starting quarterback in which the Packers trade to the Jets, as Jordan Love is too valuable and secure in his spot

twsn.net

 

[Heyjoe4]

I hope you aren't even remotely suggesting that Willis shouldn't be traded because Love could be benched.

What on earth are you smoking?

 

[Pkrjones]

Traded to Jets? Or fake news?

Green Bay Packers Trade Malik Willis To The New York Jets

This time around, though, it won’t be the starting quarterback in which the Packers trade to the Jets, as Jordan Love is too valuable and secure in his spot

twsn.net

Was a "prediction" on their website on 8/05/25... no truth to it.

 

[tynimiller]

Traded to Jets? Or fake news?

Green Bay Packers Trade Malik Willis To The New York Jets

This time around, though, it won’t be the starting quarterback in which the Packers trade to the Jets, as Jordan Love is too valuable and secure in his spot

twsn.net

Take it you didn't actually read it?

 

[Heyjoe4]

Take it you didn't actually read it?

Highly unlikely. Seems like there is some bad acid going around, at least from the last few comments.

 

[OldSchool101]

Highly unlikely. Seems like there is some bad acid going around, at least from the last few comments.

We’re in days if Noah. That ain’t no lie! I can feel the spiritual birth contractions happening all around me
Either that or someone spiked their drink with acid. Psychedelics are a terrible thing to waste

 

[Heyjoe4]

We’re in days if Noah. That ain’t no lie! I can feel the spiritual birth contractions happening all around me
Either that or someone spiked their drink with acid. Psychedelics are a terrible thing to waste

Well said OS. I don't usually drop acid and then post, although I'm sure a few here think I must, at least on occasion.

 

[El Guapo]

I reverse-dropped some stomach acid when I saw the link above, that's about it.

 

[Firethorn1001]

What on earth are you smoking?

I was questioning on if you were smoking something because you stated they are chasing a SB then threw in a "Love hasn't had a complete/dominant season" comment and I had no idea why other than to potentially infer that we needed Willis in case we benched Love if Love wasn't dominant. Because otherwise I'm not sure what one has to do with the other unless you were talking about complete/dominant from a health standpoint (which is probably what you meant).

 

[Heyjoe4]

I was questioning on if you were smoking something because you stated they are chasing a SB then threw in a "Love hasn't had a complete/dominant season" comment and I had no idea why other than to potentially infer that we needed Willis in case we benched Love if Love wasn't dominant. Because otherwise I'm not sure what one has to do with the other unless you were talking about complete/dominant from a health standpoint (which is probably what you meant).

Thanks Firethorn. I understand the source of your confusion, and it had to do with me making a statement on Love's play on a thread about trading Willis. Anyway, this is my comment that you replied to:

"Love still hasn't played a complete, dominant season as a starter."

I didn't mention the SB here and I didn't mention Willis. It's a simple declarative statement about Love's play that I thought few would take issue with.

Even if Love had started slowly (which he hasn't, to the contrary), there is NOTHING to suggest I wanted Love benched in favor of Willis - your words, not mine.

This is the problem with texts and posts on forums, it is so easy to misread a comment, or read something entirely new into a comment. I do it, we all do it.

All good. Love is off to a great start, as is the defense. This should allow Love to have more swagger. He likes to take calculated risks anyway. This is a good year to do that.