The 2019 Dantés Draft Thread

[Deleted member 6794]

I disagree, if the Redskins feel like the need is high to draft a QB who can start in the absence of Smith and they start panicking, they might be willing. Its true that its a longshot though

Washington might be interested in drafting a quarterback in the first round but I don't see any reason why they should be inclined to overpay to move up three spots as I don't except either the Packers, Dolphins or Falcons to select a QB at that point.

 

[brandon2348]

I'm prejudiced, I've known the Hockenson family for over 20 year, talk to his dad every week and I've seen every game TJ has played. The kid can flat out play, watch some of the tape on him. The first Mackey award winner as a sophomore. We spent years drafting D with very little ROI. With the 12 pick, Oline to protect the AR. With the Saints pick, Hockenson, I don't see him going past the Pats pick. Bundle our later round picks to move up for another Oline. FA for defense. It's not a defense league anymore, its a throw and catch league, you can't throw it if your on your back. I'm not convinced our young receiving corp is that bad, give them a year in a new system.

I'm all for more offense but the way this board is shaking out(at least right now) its very possible the Packers can get a "game changer" or two on the defensive side of the ball and still be able to add some needed offensive weapons in rounds 2-4. There of course is always the potential of trades which could shake up which players are the best available when the Packers select.

I have nothing bad to say about Hockenson but with so much $ allocated towards Graham and the current state of other position spots I dont know if it makes good sense to draft a TE with our 2nd first round pick. Especially when we don't have a viable option in the slot. My opinion is until we get someone who can take the top off the defense it wont matter how many big bodies we have running around out there. Maybe the Lafleur scheme will change some of that.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I have nothing bad to say about Hockenson but with so much $ allocated towards Graham and the current state of other position spots I dont know if it makes good sense to draft a TE with our 2nd first round pick.

There's still the possibility of the Packers moving on from Graham before the draft. I don't see that happening though.

 

[AmishMafia]

Jeremy Shockey was the last one in 2002 to be named All-Pro after his rookie campaign.

So, 1 in 17 years? Say 12 or so TEs get drafted each year let's round to 200 have been drafted. Soooooo 1 in 200 or a 0.5% chance to get a rookie TE in the draft who is all-pro level. New era expectations or not, that is slim odds.

 

[Mondio]

So, 1 in 17 years? Say 12 or so TEs get drafted each year let's round to 200 have been drafted. Soooooo 1 in 200 or a 0.5% chance to get a rookie TE in the draft who is all-pro level. New era expectations or not, that is slim odds.

but it's bound to happen sooner or later LOL

 

[shockerx]

People do know there are 3/4 edge rushers littering the entire first round this year right?

Can people stop acting like there arent going to be options at 12 for someone who's worthy of the pick?

Not saying there is not going to be options at 12...what i am saying is as many 3 or 4 Edge and 3 to for DL guys could go before we pick throw in a QB , CB and OT. We might be looking at D White, the first LB to go...so do we pick the 5th best Edge guy or number one LB. D White would make Blake look like a cardboard cutout.

 

[gopkrs]

As much as I would like an O lineman that can also run block, a really good inside linebacker has me drooling a bit.

 

[gbgary]

If the Packers make the right cuts they will have over 40 mill in cap space with nobody that expensive to re-sign. They are in a great position to add some offensive tools through free agency such as a TE and/or WR etc etc.

they can't go that nuts because Bahk needs re-signed before the end of 2019, if they want to avoid him going to FA, and several key guys come up in 2020 when rodgers' contract takes a really huge bite.

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers will have the eighth highest cap hit in 2019 behind two 35+ year old QBs in Brees and Brady.

that's next year but after that he's #1 and it isn't even close.

 

[shockerx]

As much as I would like an O lineman that can also run block, a really good inside linebacker has me drooling a bit.

Im with you too, if OT williams is there....tough to pass him by...maybe do the best we can at 32.

 

[AmishMafia]

Washington might be interested in drafting a quarterback in the first round but I don't see any reason why they should be inclined to overpay to move up three spots as I don't except either the Packers, Dolphins or Falcons to select a QB at that point.

Not likely, but not impossible. You never know how their draft board lies. If their #5 overall player, a QB, is sitting there at #12 and we get an offer like last season, to trade back 14 picks for an extra #1 next year from another team that needs a QB, what is Washington going to do? They ask what is it going to take, and we tell them. Do they take their #5 overall player or do they look at a trade value chart that says they are getting screwed? The answer is, they would have traded up to #5 for a 2nd and not batted an eye. There is no difference to do it at #12.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Kipers last mock draft has the Dolphins selecting Kyler Murray at #13, this could be a huge thing for the Packers who are sitting one spot ahead of the Dolphins. If there are other teams that covet Murray and they don't want to lose him, let the bidding begin.

 

[shockerx]

Kipers last mock draft has the Dolphins selecting Kyler Murray at #13, this could be a huge thing for the Packers who are sitting one spot ahead of the Dolphins. If there are other teams that covet Murray and they don't want to lose him, let the bidding begin.

You got it!...thats the point. Redskins may want to jump dolphins...if so talk to packers, who knows what they will give up...Smith may never play again.

 

[Half Empty]

Kipers last mock draft has the Dolphins selecting Kyler Murray at #13, this could be a huge thing for the Packers who are sitting one spot ahead of the Dolphins. If there are other teams that covet Murray and they don't want to lose him, let the bidding begin.

Assuming he says he's going to play pro football?

 

[Heyjoe4]

This is one of the best TE classes in recent memory, if not the best.

Hockenson declaring would be really nice.

Good to hear. I thought last year’s TE class was pretty good. We need a seam-splitting TE that can move the ball between the 20s. Keep Lewis as a blocking TE. Jared Cook will be a FA again and he deserves a look. He was certainly productive in GB and with a miserable Oakland team. Bottom line, this team is MUCH better with an impact TE. Well, I guess that’s true for all teams.....

 

[Dantés]

The problem for the Packers and a potential QB related trade down is that there are 4-5 teams ahead of them that could taking a QB. So if there are 2-3 guys that people like enough to take that high, teams could be looking to trade up much higher than pick #12.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I disagree, if the Redskins feel like the need is high to draft a QB who can start in the absence of Smith and they start panicking, they might be willing. Its true that its a longshot though

What does the QB class look like this year? Next year will be a bonanza but I’ve heard this year’s class is weak. Obviously, I haven’t been following draft boards just yet.......

 

[4zone]

We have Graham, Tonyan and could sign Kendrick’s pretty cheap for now. That’s not a major weakness and it’s a position we can buy a year or pick mid-late at TE to round things out.

Its far from a strength as well.

 

[4zone]

Agreed, Hunter Henry (who many exptected would have a breakout season last year) has taken multiple seasons despite being a first round pick.

Engram had a good rookie season - but largely benefited from significant volume with ODB injured.

OJ Howard didn't do much.

Hayden Hurst didn't do anything this year.

David Njoku had some moments this year but did nada his first year.

The vast majority of these first round TE's contribute little for a long time. For a team in win now mode I'd suggest we look at free agent TE's and seek out a bargain contract (Eifert) or trade for Brate.

In all reality, not may WR's make a huge impact in year one either. Typically way more than TEs primarily because of the target differential between the two positions. As long as they can block right out of the gait, you can get use from them until they get their routes down pat.

 

[sschind]

I'm prejudiced, I've known the Hockenson family for over 20 year, talk to his dad every week and I've seen every game TJ has played. The kid can flat out play, watch some of the tape on him. The first Mackey award winner as a sophomore. We spent years drafting D with very little ROI. With the 12 pick, Oline to protect the AR. With the Saints pick, Hockenson, I don't see him going past the Pats pick. Bundle our later round picks to move up for another Oline. FA for defense. It's not a defense league anymore, its a throw and catch league, you can't throw it if your on your back. I'm not convinced our young receiving corp is that bad, give them a year in a new system.

So what you are saying is that you have inside information about him and we should listen to whatever you say about him because its all coming straight from the horses mouth. Say no more, you got me convinced, I don't see how you could possibly be wrong.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I have to admit, I like Hochenson too I also saw him shred the Badgers. But not sure I want the Packers to spend that Saints pick on him, which is what I think it will take.

If nothing else, skip to 1:30 of this and checkout the ingenuity of this play call!

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[shockerx]

I have to admit, I like Hochenson too I also saw him shred the Badgers. But not sure I want the Packers to spend that Saints pick on him, which is what I think it will take.

If nothing else, skip to 1:30 of this and checkout the ingenuity of this play call!

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sign me up....will he make it to the 3rd? im thinking not.

 

[Packer96]

So what you are saying is that you have inside information about him and we should listen to whatever you say about him because its all coming straight from the horses mouth. Say no more, you got me convinced, I don't see how you could possibly be wrong.

So what you are saying is that you have inside information about him and we should listen to whatever you say about him because its all coming straight from the horses mouth. Say no more, you got me convinced, I don't see how you could possibly be wrong.

Watching him play isn't inside info, Winning the Mackey isn't inside info, watching the Pack draft defense year after year with no change in results isn't inside info. The 4 best OFFENSES are playing for the title this weekend isn't inside info, Kiper has him in the top 20, that's not inside info.
Knowing the family, and they are good people, if you want to be a smart *** about it I guess is inside info.

 

[sschind]

Watching him play isn't inside info, Winning the Mackey isn't inside info, watching the Pack draft defense year after year with no change in results isn't inside info. The 4 best OFFENSES are playing for the title this weekend isn't inside info, Kiper has him in the top 20, that's not inside info.
Knowing the family, and they are good people, if you want to be a smart *** about it I guess is inside info.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what went down in this thread.

https://www.packerforum.com/threads/packers-hire-titans-oc-matt-lafleur-as-their-hc.82457/

or this one

https://www.packerforum.com/threads/the-mike-pettine-era-may-soon-be-over.82404/

Thought all the smiles and such would indicate I was making a joke and referencing the other thread but I guess not. I'm sorry you didn't get it and took it personally.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

While that's definitely true the Packers don't need a starting tight end as long as they decide to hold on to Graham.



Eifert has been inured way too much for the Packers to be interested in him. The Packers don't have enough cap space to trade for Brate.

Brate's annual value is 6.8million a season. he's signed until 2024. What do you think a free agent would sign in Green Bay for? My guess is at least that if not higher. Eifert, I agree with, but I doubt they won't express any interest. His injury history will make him cheap. In a team with win now intentions these cheap guys with high upside should be pursued.