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Thanks, Javon.

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    I agree Zero. People here seem to think TT had alot of choices in this situation. Walker made it known he was done here, period. So either TT made him sit, while he was a constant disruption this whole season, and having to PAY him. OR, trade him and get what you can for him.
    It was that simple. Yes, he had talent, no, he was NOT going to be a positive influence on the team. I think he would have suited up, and either faked an injury or not played up to his ability, just to spite the Packers.
    Then next year he would have left, and we would have got nothing for him.

    Something is better then nothing in my view.
     
  2. krd005

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    If TT would have offered to talk about a new contract do you think Walker would have ruffled any feathers.

    Goes back to TT and his group of players. I beat if Walker would have been one of his I beat he would have done something about the situation
     
  3. CaliforniaCheez

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    I agreee Cheesey. We got pick 37 for a guy who would only be bad publicity for months and value in decline. In 4 years his seasons would be graded as D, C, A-, F. I believe Denver will in time regret what it has done.

    With what we got from Walker Thompson turned into a second round pick, a fourth, and 2 sixth round picks. Walker's "negotiations" are now Denver's headache.

    Almost all bad attitude guys from 2004 are gone and replaced with "Packer People". Anyone catch the Colledge interview wherein Darryn was asked "Do you think you can come in and start?" He responded "I will give it my all to earn a starting spot."

    How refreshing!!

    The attitude of the first 2 picks will make them leaders on this team in the future years. Walker's former Jersey # should be given out right away.
     
  4. musccy

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    you make a great point calicheez...Colledge is supposed to have a nasty attitude...which this team lost when Wahle went to Carolina...he's just what they need!

    Same thing for Hawk...coupling an aggressive, assertive, hard hitting leader with guys like Collins and Barnett (2 other solid leaders and or hard hitters) will add a much needed attitude to this defense!
     
  5. cheesey

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    Maybe i'm wrong, but i don't think the "one of his" line of thinking is right. I think TT wants to do whats best for the Packers. I REALLY don't think he cares who drafted him, or any other player. That is just something made up by people that don't like Thompson. Otherwise, why is Favre still here, or Green, or William Henderson, or Driver, and so on?
     
  6. GakkofNorway

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    If TT had offered a new contract to Walker it would have sent out a message to other players and we would have got more incidents like this. TT handled it correctly.
     
  7. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Yea. Do we want every player who goes to the Pro Bowl demanding a new contract the following off season?

    I surely don't!
     
  8. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    They way he let Kampman, Green, Bubba ( last year) and a few others walk..since they are not "his players" he just had to let them go right?

    O wait, he re-signed them :p
     
  9. DePack

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    Trading them when they demand it sends the same message. Tough situation but I think we got all we were going to get for him. Maybe we should have thrown him a bone after he got hurt in game 1. who knows what would have made him happy.
     
  10. digsthepack

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    Phuck Walker...hello Greg Jennings. The world moves on................
     
  11. rob836

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    Using the nfl draft value chart, the picks we ended up with total 563 points or the #34 pick, we gave up #37 (530 points) to get it.
     
  12. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Pick 34?
     
  13. krd005

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    The above mentioed people did not voice their opinions through the media like Walker so I consider it a totally different situation altogether. They didn't call him out like Walker. Walker is a new breed of athlete they want everything and they want it now. Don't agree with it but it's a fact.

    By the way Walker is one we needed over all the ones you mentioned above.

    I hope it works out but again all these high expectations after the draft are a little on the overboard side of things. Before t last week our glass was half empty now it's half full??? Just trying to be realistic here!
     
  14. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Did you miss the comments from Walker stating he would retire before putting on a Packer uniform again? Walker made his bed, now he's sleeping in it.

    We didn't need Kampman, Green or Bubba? Now I think you're jus being silly!!
     
  15. WinnipegPackFan

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    Agree Z2C, there was nothing else that could have been done at this point !!!
     
  16. LambeauEast

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    Thank you for saying that, LT!!! Kampy, Green and Bubba - NONE of them were TT's boys, yet still resigned because of their importance to the Packers.
     
  17. warhawk

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    Anybody that subscribes to "TT's boys" is seriously bent.

    You look at what we had as a football team when he got here from a realistic viewpoint and that thought makes no sense.

    Hate to tell you boys but we were more than Arrington and TO away from a playoff team.

    You see playoff teams have DEPTH.

    Playoff teams have ATHLETES that make up good special teams.

    That's right. GOOD special teams. Not ones that suck.

    TT has brought back our entire offensive backfield, kept Kampman, signed Manuel, Pickett, and, Woodson, drafted two great linebackers that we desperately needed, and, added DEPTH, at wide receiver, o-line and yeah, to our horrendously lacking of ATHLETIC guys that can play key roles and get our special teams out of TOTAL EMBARRASMENT.

    Of course, those of you that still think we should have somehow mortgaged the farm on Bush, signed Arrington and TO and we would be back in the SB, have the right to dream on.
     
  18. LambeauEast

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    Amen, Brother...you're preachin' to the chior, but keep it up!!
     
  19. tromadz

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    well said. Mike Stock, our special teams coach...has said more the past week than our previous special teams coaches have said in the past 4 years. It looks like TT\MM listen to their assitants\coaches, and work TOGETHER to build a good team.
     
  20. musccy

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    so trom...is that why you think Bonamego failed as ST coach? He had a great resume coming in...was it communication w/ MS?!? I honestly don't know...just asking for your opinion.
     
  21. tromadz

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    I believe it was.

    Some say that is why Jeff Jagodzinski left Green Bay in the first place in 2003...was because Sherman would not listen to his subordinates.

    And the more I read, the more that makes sense.
     
  22. musccy

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    that makes sense...bonamego came in with a lot of pizzazz and wrinkles...lots of shifts and odd formations on kickoffs...some fake fgs, etc. then it all went to vanilla in a hurry. Was that due to the lack of personel he wanted?!? I honestly don't know, but it seems plausible
     
  23. tromadz

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    starting to make sense, doesn't it?

    Look at Ed Donatell for crying out loud. Mr. nothing in green bay, Mr. Awesome(well..he did well) in Atlanta. Sherman had it his way or the highway. And his way sucked.
     
  24. rob836

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    Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7 Round 8
    1 3000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 28 193 15 225 2
    2 2600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 27 194 14 226 2
    3 2200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 27 195 14 227 2
    4 1800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 26 196 14 228 2
    5 1700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39 165 26 197 13 229 2
    6 1600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 26 198 13 230 2
    7 1500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38 167 25 199 12 231 2
    8 1400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 25 200 12 232 2
    9 1350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37 169 24 201 12 233 2
    10 1300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 24 202 11 234 2
    11 1250 43 470 75 245 107 80 139 36 171 24 203 11 235 2
    12 1200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 23 204 10 236 2
    13 1150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35 173 23 205 10 237 2
    14 1100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 22 206 10 238 2
    15 1050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34 175 22 207 9 239 2
    16 1000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 22 208 9 240 1
    17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33 177 21 209 8 241 1
    18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 21 210 8 242 1
    19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32 179 20 211 8 243 1
    20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32 180 20 212 7 244 1
    21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31 181 20 213 7 245 1
    22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31 182 19 214 6 246 1
    23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 19 215 6 247 1
    24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 31 184 18 216 6 248 1
    25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 31 185 18 217 5 249 1
    26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 30 186 18 218 5 250 1
    27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 30 187 17 219 5 251 1
    28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 30 188 17 220 4 252 1
    29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 29 189 16 221 4 253 1
    30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 29 190 16 222 4 254 1
    31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 28 191 16 223 3 255 1
    32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 28 192 15 224 3 256 1



    563.8 = 34 on the chart 34 = 560 all 5 picks add up to 563.8. 37 = 530
     
  25. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    So we got good deal?
     

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