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Thanks, Javon.

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  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Trade 2: WR Javon Walker to DEN for pick 37.
    Trade 3: Picks 37 & 139 to ATL for picks 47, 93 & 148.
    Trade 4: Pick 93 to STL for picks 109 & 183.
    Trade 5: Pick 109 to PHI for picks 115 & 185.

    Javon + 5th Rd pick for 47, 115, 148, 183 and 185.


    T/G Daryn Colledge, Boise State - 47

    CB Will Blackmon, Boston College - 115

    QB Ingle Martin, Furman - 148

    DT Johnny Jolly, Texas A&M - 183

    S Tyrone Culver, Fresno State - 185
     
  2. wischeez

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    And someone said he wasn't worth much coming off an injury....
     
  3. packers34

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    thats the best thing he ever did for this team.
     
  4. tromadz

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    C'mon now, he did some good. We did get our money for him though, hopefully it all pans out.
     
  6. Canadian packer

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    So thing made me laugh.... I saw an interview today of Mike S denver head coach... He was impressed with J walker because he could see he was a good person... Yeah if you show him the money.....
     
  7. pyledriver80

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    Congratulations! TT has successfully dooped you with his endless trading!


    We gave away Javon for a 2nd, period! You can twist it all you want but here is the truth


    We traded our 36th and got the 52 and 75 from NE. This has nothing to do with Javon.


    Than we Trade Javon for the 37th pick. This is what we got for Javon!

    We then gave away our 37, 2nd rounder, and our 139, 5th rounder to move down. You can't use these picks as a result of Javon trade because we just gave away a 2nd rounder and a 5th rounder to get more picks. This is not a result of Javon but a result of giving away our 2nd and 5th.

    We could have just as easily traded our 36th to Atl for the same thing and still had Javon.

    This is a big Farce. We had a 2nd, gave it away for more picks and then traded back up, losing Javon.

    We got a 2nd for Javon, period! The rest of the trades we gave up our current picks to get more.

    The Bad thing is we gave up a 2nd that we had the pick before, while still having Javon.

    Thus we got a 2nd only for Javon. We used the 37 pick that we got for Javon and packaged it with a 5th to gain more picks, when we could have just as easily did it with the 36th pick.


    It makes no sense, we gave him away for cheap and you guys make it sound like we got 5 players for him. The only real thing that we got out of it was it allowed us to trade the 2nd pick once, even though we had it twice. We already had it once to begin with.


    We got A 2nd round pick for him, nothing more. I think TT outthought himself
     
  8. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Here, maybe you missed the intial post :) (notice, I didn't mention NE anywhere.)



    We lost Javon and our 5th Rd pick and in return got five players.

    I know its late and I'm not the greatest when it comes to math, but I think I'm accurate here.
     
  9. pyledriver80

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    Sorry thats not right, Zero

    The 5 guys we got were a result of giving away our 2nd and 5th, It has nothing to do with Javon.
     
  10. Zero2Cool

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    How did we get the second round pick that we used to get those five players?
     
  11. SuperRat

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    It has everything to do with Javon. The 2nd we got for Javon. Without Javon there isn't that particular second round pick.
     
  12. pyledriver80

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    We had a 2nd rounder already. We could have just as easily got all those picks by trading our 36 to ATL and still keeping Javon
     
  13. Zero2Cool

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    That was my way of thinking.

    I'm willing to bet Ted spoke with Atlanta before he cleared the trade of Javon for the 2nd rd pick too. Knowing he'd get more picks out of it.
     
  14. Zero2Cool

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    We traded OUR 2nd round for two picks.

    You can't trade the same pick twice.

    I hope you don't do your bills the same way :p
     
  15. tromadz

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    IRS loves pyle.
     
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    Oh boy!

    Do you not understand that we also gave up a 2nd Rounder for all those picks?
     
  17. pyledriver80

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    This is hilarious,

    To get all those extra picks we gave up the 2nd we got for Walker, and a 5th. We did not give up Walker for all those picks!
     
  18. Zero2Cool

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    pyle, I know it's confusing, took me awhile to decipher it! lol


    Trade 1: Pick 36 to NE for picks 52 and 75. <This was OUR 2nd pick>
    Ted turned that one pick into two picks.

    Trade 2: WR Javon Walker to DEN for pick 37.
    Trade 3: Picks 37 & 139 to ATL for picks 47, 93 & 148.
    Trade 4: Pick 93 to STL for picks 109 & 183.
    Trade 5: Pick 109 to PHI for picks 115 & 185.

    Those four trades were the direct result to trading Javon and getting Denvers 2nd rd pick, number 37 overall which was right after the Packers 36th overall pick in which NE took Chad Jackson.

    If we would have kept both second rounders we would have picked back to back and I think that is where you might be confused.

    Hope this helps clear it up...
     
  19. Zero2Cool

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    'sigh'


    Try to understand what I am saying!!!!

    I am NOT saying we traded JAVON for those picks. I'm saying we GOT all those picks from the Javon trade!

    Javon got us a 2nd rounder!

    We turned that second rounder plus our fifth rounder into FIVE more picks.
     
  20. pyledriver80

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    Zero, thats what I thought Initially as well but you are not following me here!

    We traded Walker for the 37th pick......Period!

    Then we traded away that 37th pick for more picks, thus giving up a 2nd rounder!

    So we traded WAlker, A 2ND, and a 5th for all those guys! How can you say we didn't give away a 2nd?
     
  21. pyledriver80

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    BUT..... WE ALREADY HAD A 2ND ROUNDER!
     
  22. SuperRat

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    Javon Walker is that second round pick essentially. Javon Walker became the 2nd round pick which combined with the 5th round pick to become with those players. The other 2nd round pick got us 2 other players, Greg Jennings and Jason Spitz.
     
  23. Zero2Cool

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    You're right, we had a second rounder of our own.

    OUR 2ND ROUND PICK
    Trade 1: Pick 36 to NE for picks 52 and 75.

    Our 36th overall was traded for 52th overall and 75th overall. (did I list them as players we got from the numerous trades from the Javon pick?)

    That's what we did with OUR pick in the second round.







    2ND ROUND PICK FROM JAVON TRADE
    Trade 2: WR Javon Walker to DEN for pick 37.
    Trade 3: Picks 37 & 139 to ATL for picks 47, 93 & 148.
    Trade 4: Pick 93 to STL for picks 109 & 183.
    Trade 5: Pick 109 to PHI for picks 115 & 185.

    We rid ourselves from Javon who vowed (suposedly) never to play again in GB.
    We got Denvers 2nd Rd Pick. 37th overall.

    We traded 37th plus OUR 139th overall to Atlanta for 47th, 93rd and 148.

    We THEN traded 93rd to St Louis for their 109th and 183rd.

    We THEN traded 109th to Philly for their 115th and 185th.
     
  24. pyledriver80

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    Bottom line is we gave up Javon, A 2nd and a 5th for Those guys.

    It is not right to say we got 5 guys for Javon and a 5th. In truth we gave away Javon, a 2nd Rounder and a 5th rounder. 3 guys for 5
     
  25. Zero2Cool

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    Bottom line, you're wrong! We wouldn't have HAD the second 2nd rd pick if we didn't trade Javon.

    OUR 2nd round pick we sent to NE!
    The 2nd round pick we got from the Javon trade we coupled with OUR fith rd pick FOR those picks.


    I laid it all out for you! Read it! lol
     

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