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Good information.

The only thing I would offer is to not use these figures as gospel. First of all several players have Roster bonus $ tied to their respective contracts. So the current cap futures change when the league year starts and those monies activate. I’m not positive those roster incentives are calculated in that post June figure you might know better than me, but I’m guessing not because they are not a factor until starting 2026 (March 2026 etc)
Also in many cases the reason the Cap $ changes drastically post and pre June is because they remove the 2026 Capital $$. Many times it’s still there. Meaning you’re pushing $5,10,$15mil into 2027 and it’s added to sunk $$.
Now it does happen that we’ve elected to move on from a player. Yet not as often with larger disparity in pre and post June figures such as Banks.
We’d still be paying Aaron either a Roster bonus or full cap charge (or meaning possibly both) spread across 2026-27 seasons.

It’s a massive blow to next year but the reasons it can happen is because the cost of funds as a % lowers as each league years goes by. Meaning a
-$15mil hit today might only feel like
-$13mil on the books next year. Not to mention the advantage of freeing up available cap space today could be beneficial in a “Win Now” mode. I think our signing Micah pretty much sums up that our financial officers were instructed by the Packers Brass that they feel we are in a win now environment.
The only 2 players that have a pre and post 6/1 cap difference are Gary and Banks. Gary does not have a roster bonus. So, the only one of the above 5 players that would really come into play would be Banks, who has a $9.5MM roster bonus.
 

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I get being annoyed with his hot headed play, but Jeeze guys. 5M for a CB that at least hold up at CB1 is basically theft.
You're not getting his services for $5M in 2026. He will cost $7.1M

Which for sure if you get consistent CB2 level play outside I'm good with it. He has NOT been a CB1 level play.
 

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You're not getting his services for $5M in 2026. He will cost $7.1M

Which for sure if you get consistent CB2 level play outside I'm good with it. He has NOT been a CB1 level play.

I’d say 7.1M doesn’t change the math much. A little naive math, but 1/53 of the 2026 salary cap is 5.57M.

Do I want more from him? Sure. Is laid fairly? Also sure.
 

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Coogan has also played 645 snaps at LG so he some position versatility too. Has played a boatload of snaps at the college level (over 2,000) and stayed healthy. I think the knock on him and the reason he's a projected late 4th/ early 5th round pick is for some teams, he's only big and not massive. Maybe he's the next Zach Tom. 4th round pick, not huge but really good.
Make it to 52? Most don’t have him in their top 100
 
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My feeling wouldn’t be hurt if we took a CB earlier in the draft, because that position is pretty important. Yet if we could attain needed talent perfectly aligned with need?

My top areas would be ideally addressed with 2 Free Agents (outside) and draft picks.

1. OC or OG
Proven +Starter to pair with Sean Rhyan or good enough to ask Sean to “move it on over a big old dog is moving in”

2. Backup QB
Preferably with some live experience or high upside player similar to a Willis or Baltimore’s Huntley.

3. IDT (RD2)
often these guys can be found earlier in the draft and often a Top 40 prospect is still hanging around at #52
Christen Miller Jr from UGA is a reasonable example without getting unrealistic. High echelon Run Defender who rated 99/100 on draftbuzz, which is very rare.

4. Edge (RD3)
This would depend on our decision with Enagbare or Cox Jr status. If we resign both I’d push this down the needs list.

5. LB (RD4)
While I’m not opposed to Quay overall. I suspect his performance won’t be commensurate to his contract. We have several LB’s on board as next man up, but I’d buffer this group even so. I’m wanting a peak at more Oliver and Hopper here.

6. WR (RD5)
It’s a position needing constant attention. Plus, it’s likely we won’t match Doubs FA offer. I think he gets paid elsewhere.

7. CB (RD6)
I’d make it a priority to resign Diggs, but he’s overvalued on his current structure. Likely a shorter 1 or 2 year prove it contract with lighter guaranteed, but heavier incentives if he regains form. If Diggs is not here I’d push this up the board RD4-5

7. Teams. (RD7)
I say this because ST Doesn’t always get attention. In GB it can be an afterthought. I’m looking for a top Teams contributor with that skill set to upgrade. Might even eyeball Placekicker

8. TE/FB/Hback (RD7)
I’d like a first pick of the Undrafted litter here. A pure blocking TE who’s a bull and has natural grit and instinct to find his opponent and regularly pitbull him or blow someone up.
That 6’3.5” 250-260lb menace
 
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For what its worth, PFF has offensive linemen rated as deep in 2026 but not stellar at the top end. They only have 6 offensive linemen rated as first round draft picks and 4 second rounders with many projected 3rd-5th round players. The draft class could be set up perfectly for Gute to mine some gold in the 4th and 5th round.
 

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Right now its Morgan..Banks.. ? ..Belton..Tom i like that if they stay healthy. Rhyan gone if they think Monk close. Hope to see a top 4 center drafted to GB. Morgan and Belton will be better, Tom gonna feel good again. And I think Banks was hurt more than they say, he got better near the end...so im hopeful for him also. Yes lots a Ifs.
 

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Maybe it's me but I would have him primarily as a returner and if we had to 8th option at CB

That feels like an over reaction.

Is he a great cornerback? No. Was he easily the best CB we had last year? Yes.

I can get wanting to get better/replace him, but he is an above-average NFL CB. You don’t just throw him away, especially when he’s paid peanuts.
 

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The Packers have a lot of holes to fill if they are going to get better in 2026.

OC/OG is a must. Poor OL play is one of the reasons why the Packers finished the season in not-so-good fashion.
DT. Kenny Clark was not replaced. No surprise. Our run defense down the stretch was wretched.
LB. Quay Walker is a FA and prob isn't worth resigning for the money he might get.
CB an absolute must Kisean Nixon wants how much money?? Give me a break. He sucked.
QB backup Willis is gone. Rather than spend a higher draft pick on a QB, try to sign someone like Joe Flacco for a year. Assuming the Bengals don't resign him.

If the Packers let go of Gary and Jenkins, which they probably will, there's two more needs to fill.
 

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"Parsons won't be back late or not at all in 2026-27."

Can't agree on this one lambeau. I expect Parsons will be back in the first half of October.

As for what area needs the most attention - that would be the entire CB group IMO. Nixon may be good at PBU, but he's simply not worth the aggravation/penalties he causes. He's good for one personal foul per game, it seems.

This is no easy task. GB doesn't have a 1st round pick, and cap is limited to about $11 mil (I think). Hobbs seems to be a bust, but he has been injured a lot.

Gluten has to wave his magic wand on this position group as he did with the Safeties two years ago.

FWIW I don't think Jenkins will be back next season, or not at a price GB is willing to pay. Gary is also iffy, but I think he stays.
Hobbs is a great special teams guy he likes to hit. He improved as the season went further.
 
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For what its worth, PFF has offensive linemen rated as deep in 2026 but not stellar at the top end. They only have 6 offensive linemen rated as first round draft picks and 4 second rounders with many projected 3rd-5th round players. The draft class could be set up perfectly for Gute to mine some gold in the 4th and 5th round.
Yes. I’ve always been a proponent of feeding the OL regularly to pipeline them. I think in 2026 it would be good to bring in some stability with someone coming off either their rookie contract with 2 or 3 years of starts or possibly an aging veteran with 2-3 more years left in the tank. I liked what Chicago did at OL and it really transformed them.

OG Joe Thuney cost a future 4th and 17.5mil per year extension.

OG Jonah Jackson was $17.5mil plus a later draft pick from Rams.

OC Drew Dalman signed straight up for $13mil yearly.

We’ll likely have Banks contractually and I think Rhyan will sign reasonable cheap. We have Belton and don’t furget about John Williams who came off IR recently. At one time he was getting some later Day2 chatter. We grabbed him in RD7 but once again, he was injured. (Common Packer theme). I know he’s listed at Tackle, but I recall reading they think he’s an ideal Guard option.

Other possibility is draft a Center earlier in RD2,3,4 area. It’s not unheard of to find a replacement earlier in the draft at Center. We
saw what became of Linsley when JC Tretter went down and he was a big school program (Ohio state) Day 3 selection.
 
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I think it would be wise to grab 1 good FA at either DT or OC/OG

Then a medium or moderate signing at backup QB.

Then a few smaller contracts on guys like LB, Nieman. Whyle or Fitzgerald as a 3rd TE.

Then if we upgrade at Center we can let Williams and Belton compete for RG.

Draft on Defense using #52
Preferably an IDT. We’ll need help until Wyatt returns and we’d need to pair someone either way after losing Kenny
 
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Is he a great cornerback? No. Was he easily the best CB we had last year? Yes.
Which isn't saying very much, really. Put it this way - if, a year from now, we look back on 26 and say Nixon was once again the best CB on the team, we've probably had another very disappointing season.


You're not getting his services for $5M in 2026. He will cost $7.1M

Which for sure if you get consistent CB2 level play outside I'm good with it. He has NOT been a CB1 level play.
Trouble is, he thinks he's a clear #1, and wants a new contract. He says he had a really good year, had "met all of (his) goals", and wants to be paid accordingly.

The guy really has unrealistic and inflated opinion of himself, and that doesn't reflect well on him. I admire self-confidence, but a little bit of humility would show that at least he recognizes he needs to improve substantially.

Did you see his absolute ole "tackle" at the goal line? Yeah, I don't need $hit like that, even for $5.0MM.
It's even uglier if you look at the "all 22". Not only did he completely whiff on the tackle at the goal line, if he'd reacted to the play as it developed, he could have made a stop on the 3 yard line. When Swift hit the 6, Nixon was standing a yard deep in the end zone watching him come. There was nobody between Swift and the end zone, Nixon made no effort at all to attack the ball. He literally just stood there waiting in the end zone, watching Swift cover that entire 6 yards, before jumping out of his way.

And for him to say after the game that he'd had a really good year, met all of his goals, and expects a raise, just plain ****** me off. I don't know how you can rely on a guy like this. That was just a disgraceful play, and he ought to be ashamed of it - not bragging about what a great year he had, and demanding a raise. To me, he's the poster boy for what's wrong with this team - no heart, no killer instinct.

 

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I get being annoyed with his hot headed play, but Jeeze guys. 5M for a CB that at least hold up at CB1 is basically theft.
I like what you said and agree because we are so thin there. And I actually like him on the team. But not if you are going to think of him as a CB1. Even if that seems to be his position.
 

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The only 2 players that have a pre and post 6/1 cap difference are Gary and Banks. Gary does not have a roster bonus. So, the only one of the above 5 players that would really come into play would be Banks, who has a $9.5MM roster bonus.
We made a contract and if he has to stay because of it; I don't have a problem with it. It is what it is. But we sure as hell don't have to play silly games and start him.
 

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Here are the easy cuts, IMO, with Pre and Post 6/1 cut cap savings:
Gary - $11.0MM, $19.5MM
Jenkins - $19.5MM, $19.5MM
Diggs - $15.0MM, $15.0MM

And some other potentials to consider:
Banks - $4.5MM, $18.0MM
Nixon - $5.0MM, $5.0MM

As you can see, if you're looking to cut cap, this is some obvious places to start. Jenkins, Diggs, and Nixon are the same cap number regardless so you could cut them right away if that's the decision you were going. Those 3 would save $40 million from the jump. If you waited post 6/1 for Gary and Banks, those 2 would clear another almost $40 million of additional cap.
Welp, that's one domino down.
 

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Just throwing this idea out there. Maybe trade a all pro like McKinney? Or a rare blue chip RB like Jacobs? Rather than releasing Gary, would GB possibly generate some interest in a trade of some sort?

All have 2 years left on their deals. Over the next two years.
Gary $25.5m dead/ $33.5 saved
Jacob's $9.4m dead / $21.8m saved.
McKinney $17.2m dead /$24.2m saved.

Those three guys are in their prime years... 2 years left on their deals....

I bet some team would trade a 1st for McKinney.... ? Plug in all pro safety for $20 mil a year? Then we trade it down for a couple 2nds...

RB is a weird position. You have to pay big bucks to get that elite RB who gives you a step ahead of the opponent.... Maybe we find a team that's looking to add a pro bowl caliber RB like Jacobs, for a 2nd rounder, and take over his salary, giving him an extension.....? And GB divests amicably.....

Gary gets traded to a team that wants that speed. Willing to pay the $30m/yr.... Give us a 4th rounder just for good measure......?

So say we trade those three players. That's $27 mil saved this year. And $53m saved for next year.... Along with jenkins, that's $47m liquid this year. With 3x extra 2nd round picks to diversify. Get another RB, and a couple interior linemen. Have money to resign players like Kraft, Willis(?), Keep Cooper/Walker duo maybe? Reed, Evan Williams, LVN, resign Diggs maybe?

Trading McKinney sounds crazy. But theoretically? What do you think we could get if we shopped him? Or Jacobs?
 
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Just throwing this idea out there. Maybe trade a all pro like McKinney? Or a rare blue chip RB like Jacobs? Rather than releasing Gary, would GB possibly generate some interest in a trade of some sort?

Gary $25.5m dead/ $33.5 saved
Jacob's $9.4m dead / $21.8m saved.
McKinney $17.2m dead /$24.2m saved.

Those three guys are in their prime years... 2 years left on their deals....

I bet some team would trade a 1st for McKinney.... ? Plug in all pro safety for $20 mil a year? Then we trade it down for a couple 2nds...

RB is a weird position. You have to pay big bucks to get that elite RB who gives you a step ahead of the opponent.... Maybe we find a team that's looking to add a pro bowl caliber RB like Jacobs, for a 2nd rounder, and take over his salary, giving him an extension.....? And GB divests amicably.....

Gary gets traded to a team that wants that speed. Willing to pay the $30m/yr.... Give us a 4th rounder just for good measure......?

So say we trade those three players. That's $27 mil saved this year. And $53m saved for next year.... Along with jenkins, that's $47m liquid this year. With 3x extra 2nd round picks to diversify. Get another RB, and a couple interior linemen. Have money to resign players like Kraft, Willis(?), Keep Cooper/Walker duo maybe? Reed, Evan Williams, LVN, resign Diggs maybe?

Trading McKinney sounds crazy. But theoretically? What do you think we could get if we shopped him? Or Jacobs?

You cap saved figures are not numbers I can find anywhere….example Jacobs cut or moved is only like $8M saved against the cap for us.
 

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You cap saved figures are not numbers I can find anywhere….example Jacobs cut or moved is only like $8M saved against the cap for us.
I was combining over the next two years. All three of those big name players have 2 years left on their deals.

I edited it to be more clear
 

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Just throwing this idea out there. Maybe trade a all pro like McKinney? Or a rare blue chip RB like Jacobs? Rather than releasing Gary, would GB possibly generate some interest in a trade of some sort?

All have 2 years left on their deals. Over the next two years.
Gary $25.5m dead/ $33.5 saved
Jacob's $9.4m dead / $21.8m saved.
McKinney $17.2m dead /$24.2m saved.

Those three guys are in their prime years... 2 years left on their deals....

I bet some team would trade a 1st for McKinney.... ? Plug in all pro safety for $20 mil a year? Then we trade it down for a couple 2nds...

RB is a weird position. You have to pay big bucks to get that elite RB who gives you a step ahead of the opponent.... Maybe we find a team that's looking to add a pro bowl caliber RB like Jacobs, for a 2nd rounder, and take over his salary, giving him an extension.....? And GB divests amicably.....

Gary gets traded to a team that wants that speed. Willing to pay the $30m/yr.... Give us a 4th rounder just for good measure......?

So say we trade those three players. That's $27 mil saved this year. And $53m saved for next year.... Along with jenkins, that's $47m liquid this year. With 3x extra 2nd round picks to diversify. Get another RB, and a couple interior linemen. Have money to resign players like Kraft, Willis(?), Keep Cooper/Walker duo maybe? Reed, Evan Williams, LVN, resign Diggs maybe?

Trading McKinney sounds crazy. But theoretically? What do you think we could get if we shopped him? Or Jacobs?
Sounds crazy. We are a very young team and that would make us younger yet. We need experience to change these crunch time collapses.
 

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I was combining over the next two years. All three of those big name players have 2 years left on their deals.

I edited it to be more clear

That’s not how it works tho. If this year the dead cap is say 8 million and next year the dead cap is 4 = that doesn’t mean you have 12 million in dead cap.

The savings of a player hits immediately unless post June 1st designation.
 
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Just throwing this idea out there. Maybe trade a all pro like McKinney? Or a rare blue chip RB like Jacobs? Rather than releasing Gary, would GB possibly generate some interest in a trade of some sort?

All have 2 years left on their deals. Over the next two years.
Gary $25.5m dead/ $33.5 saved
Jacob's $9.4m dead / $21.8m saved.
McKinney $17.2m dead /$24.2m saved.

Those three guys are in their prime years... 2 years left on their deals....

I bet some team would trade a 1st for McKinney.... ? Plug in all pro safety for $20 mil a year? Then we trade it down for a couple 2nds...

RB is a weird position. You have to pay big bucks to get that elite RB who gives you a step ahead of the opponent.... Maybe we find a team that's looking to add a pro bowl caliber RB like Jacobs, for a 2nd rounder, and take over his salary, giving him an extension.....? And GB divests amicably.....

Gary gets traded to a team that wants that speed. Willing to pay the $30m/yr.... Give us a 4th rounder just for good measure......?

So say we trade those three players. That's $27 mil saved this year. And $53m saved for next year.... Along with jenkins, that's $47m liquid this year. With 3x extra 2nd round picks to diversify. Get another RB, and a couple interior linemen. Have money to resign players like Kraft, Willis(?), Keep Cooper/Walker duo maybe? Reed, Evan Williams, LVN, resign Diggs maybe?

Trading McKinney sounds crazy. But theoretically? What do you think we could get if we shopped him? Or Jacobs?
While I’m not in agreement on cutting everyone or trading everyone, I like your thinking out of box. Elgton is an easy one. After that imo we could cut Gary and declare him post June because we’d be under the cap already with Elgton. Picking up $19mil this year is ok because the other $8 would go into 2027 cap and feel like $6-7Mil sunk. Yet we’d have $19mil to sign other players, which is a significant chunk.

Again I like Gary. I just think it’s time to double down on Lukas and bring Enagbare back team friendly. I also am high on Cox Jr. Not to mention we saw glimmers of potential with Sorrell so we’ve got some rotation there. We haven’t even considered Oliver because he’s been off radar. The second that cat gets on the field he performs. He’s a very underestimated Pass Rusher imo but his position change and injury kept him completely under radar. You don’t go pig double digit sacks and double digit TFL in a Power 5 program as a true Freshman just by accident. Just before Oliver was injured in his Senior 2024 season he was putting full display dominance. It’s my opinion Oliver was a Day2 selection all day long (due to size and needing refinement shedding) until he went down and carries injury concerns. Yet on that field? He’s a Baller and it’s why we chanced a 5th to get some future usage in 2026.

A Gary departure would allow us to go resign 3 or 4 really good incumbents FA’s (Enagbare, Cox Jr, Wilson) and retain the other 1/2 for an outside FA. IMO Center of IDT 100% needs an upgrade. Imo id prefer we grab a Center upgrade now and turn our full attention to iDL with #52/#84 or whatever. We need a strategy to succeed Kenny and hold the fort until Wyatt returns. Other idea is to shop a +Starter, veteran iDT in FA and Draft at Center RD2-3 (Iowa Team Captain, Logan Jones) or 4th RD at very latest
 
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