Off Season News

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I'm just checking to see how many Packer Fans really follow a lot of post/off season news
which for the most part is just speculation.

What changes in coaching staff.
Who's available in the draft.
What about free agency?
Which player from other teams might be cut and available.
Cap space.

The reason for asking is, doesn't all these come down to the decisions in the front office
and we as fans can just talk about our wishes for the better of the team?

In the meantime, all we can do is read about all the possibilities, and it all changes from day-by-day week to week.

I really don't care because of the time between now and training camp.

Example: Acquiring Micah Parsons just before the season started.

For now, I'm headed for my favorite Florida golf course.

 

[El Guapo]

I keep track by checking my favorite Packers-news-aggregating site, and then follow up here. I don't click on many articles in the offseason (or ever) because I know most of it is just a nothingburger written to generate clicks.

Every once in a while, real news comes out like the ST coach "steps" down.

I don't really even follow the draft too much until afterward. I don't need the highs and lows in my life about the could-a should-a's that we missed. I want to know who we got, what they can bring, and then I fish until training camp starts.

 

[milani]

I'm just checking to see how many Packer Fans really follow a lot of post/off season news
which for the most part is just speculation.

What changes in coaching staff.
Who's available in the draft.
What about free agency?
Which player from other teams might be cut and available.
Cap space.

The reason for asking is, doesn't all these come down to the decisions in the front office
and we as fans can just talk about our wishes for the better of the team?

In the meantime, all we can do is read about all the possibilities, and it all changes from day-by-day week to week.

I really don't care because of the time between now and training camp.

Example: Acquiring Micah Parsons just before the season started.

For now, I'm headed for my favorite Florida golf course.

Forget football for a while. Think of the crack of the bat or the Stanley Cup. Unless there is a Favre unretirement story or a Hornung suspension just wait until the draft.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm just checking to see how many Packer Fans really follow a lot of post/off season news
which for the most part is just speculation.

What changes in coaching staff.
Who's available in the draft.
What about free agency?
Which player from other teams might be cut and available.
Cap space.

The reason for asking is, doesn't all these come down to the decisions in the front office
and we as fans can just talk about our wishes for the better of the team?

In the meantime, all we can do is read about all the possibilities, and it all changes from day-by-day week to week.

I really don't care because of the time between now and training camp.

Example: Acquiring Micah Parsons just before the season started.

For now, I'm headed for my favorite Florida golf course.

This seems to point towards a claim I would disagree with and that is everything is just unknown.

There is true and hard cap discussions and numbers which are known.
There is true and factual film which one can watch if they choose to become knowledgeable of draft prospects. If not film they can analyze statistical trends in prospects productions (both advanced analytics or basic numbers) to judget them with merit beyond emotions.
The free agency discussions don't really amp up until the tampering window starts and true free agency then due to a lot of resignings of own will occur, but again those also are known too.

HOWEVER, I say enjoy the off season how you wish - if you want to delve deep into draft prospects do it, if you want to ignore it do that too! If you want to dig deep into free agency and such great...if not, great!



Because of how forums work I have to put a disclaimer upon the statement below - this is a generalized comment, and not directed specifically at you, it is merely a continuation of my thoughts above but have shifted to a generalize statement and not a direct reply.

I will say however, my rub is the vast majority of fans that will ignore BUT be the loudest critiques. If you want to be critical, be knowledgeable.

 

[Poppa San]

Woah! This board has posters after the supper bowl?

 

[El Guapo]

The Puppy Bowl gives me the energy to carry on

 

[OldSchool101]

Woah! This board has posters after the supper bowl?

We’re mostly Posers until FA starts. But that’s still pretty close to Posters! Just still trying to cross our T’s until then!

 

[Pkrjones]

The NFL Combine starts tomorrow!!! Time to get back to business, as posters, after the 11 day layoff.

 

[milani]

Woah! This board has posters after the supper bowl?

It was such a good supper!

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

The NFL Combine starts tomorrow!!! Time to get back to business, as posters, after the 11 day layoff.

And again, this don't mean nothing to me.

Selecting players from the draft, the combine, and walk-ons to me is nothing but a big gamble
and guessing game backed up by group of scouts, front office, etc.

Ex: Tony Mandarich

 

[Pkrjones]

And again, this don't mean nothing to me.

Selecting players from the draft, the combine, and walk-ons to me is nothing but a big gamble
and guessing game backed up by group of scouts, front office, etc.

Ex: Tony Mandarich

Enjoy your offseason, see you back here in 5 months.

 

[Half Empty]

And again, this don't mean nothing to me.

Selecting players from the draft, the combine, and walk-ons to me is nothing but a big gamble
and guessing game backed up by group of scouts, front office, etc.

Ex: Tony Mandarich

What kind of "Offseason News" do you expect to find here?

 

[tynimiller]

And again, this don't mean nothing to me.

Selecting players from the draft, the combine, and walk-ons to me is nothing but a big gamble
and guessing game backed up by group of scouts, front office, etc.

Ex: Tony Mandarich

This seems incredibly foolish and misguided to me...and honestly I'd assume you're trolling as it is to that degree. You claim it to be a guessing game...sure...but one which you absolutely can mitigate the risk massively by scouting, film watching, testing, interviewing - if it is such a fools endeavor as you claim teams would be trading away all their day 1 and day 2 picks and only desiring to pick in the end of the draft because of course: Tony Mandarich example justifies that foolish thought process.

To think the combine should make or break whether a team drafts a player is misguided as well....and falls short of intelligence as well and I'd have responded in a similar fashion to that thinking too.

 

[Magooch]

Aaron Jones is supposedly going to be released by the Vikings.

Would there be any world in which a reunion would make sense??

It's hard for me to see it as likely at all. But I really like Jones and think there could be some sense to it.

We all just heard how Emanuel Wilson is not getting tendered. AFAIK, the minimum price for tendering would be like 3.5m, or nearly 6m for a 2nd-round tender.

I would have to think that would be around the ceiling we would want to pay for RB2. But depending on the cost I guess you could look at it like Jones vs a late round pick for our likely RB2. Of course Lloyd is still a total unknown and I don't know what the plan is with Brooks (maybe I missed something there)

I also think that he has a remaining 2m guaranteed from Minnesota. So hypothetically speaking if he agreed a minimum contract with us (~1.3m I think) then they would still have to pay him 700k for instance. BUT he had been set to make like 10m this year. So that would obviously have to come at a significant discount.

It's hard for me to get a good read on him overall, cuz in general the vikings offense kinda stunk last year. And he missed a few games after going through a super heavy workload the year prior, but he would presumably take on a smaller role behind Jacobs now.

Food for thought anyhow!

 

[tynimiller]

Aaron Jones is supposedly going to be released by the Vikings.

Would there be any world in which a reunion would make sense??

It's hard for me to see it as likely at all. But I really like Jones and think there could be some sense to it.

We all just heard how Emanuel Wilson is not getting tendered. AFAIK, the minimum price for tendering would be like 3.5m, or nearly 6m for a 2nd-round tender.

I would have to think that would be around the ceiling we would want to pay for RB2. But depending on the cost I guess you could look at it like Jones vs a late round pick for our likely RB2. Of course Lloyd is still a total unknown and I don't know what the plan is with Brooks (maybe I missed something there)

I also think that he has a remaining 2m guaranteed from Minnesota. So hypothetically speaking if he agreed a minimum contract with us (~1.3m I think) then they would still have to pay him 700k for instance. BUT he had been set to make like 10m this year. So that would obviously have to come at a significant discount.

It's hard for me to get a good read on him overall, cuz in general the vikings offense kinda stunk last year. And he missed a few games after going through a super heavy workload the year prior, but he would presumably take on a smaller role behind Jacobs now.

Food for thought anyhow!

Not trading for, but would call if released.

 

[Capitol 8805]

Friends,
Can someone explain the difference between a Franchise tag versus a Transition Tag. If I recall Gutty placed a tag on Devante Adams and was able to get a first, and second round pick for him. Was this a Transition Tag? Can something similar be done to one of the UFA for the Packers? I see Willis, and R. Walker are in most top ten free agent available lists. Is it possible to sign and trade a player and get compensation? Thank you in advance for the information.

 

[tynimiller]

Friends,
Can someone explain the difference between a Franchise tag versus a Transition Tag. If I recall Gutty placed a tag on Devante Adams and was able to get a first, and second round pick for him. Was this a Transition Tag? Can something similar be done to one of the UFA for the Packers? I see Willis, and R. Walker are in most top ten free agent available lists. Is it possible to sign and trade a player and get compensation? Thank you in advance for the information.

Franchise Tag is the bigger (Top5 salary average) of the two and restricts player movement and awards two first round picks if they leave.
Transition Tag is slightly smaller (Top10 salary average) of the two and allows negotiating with other teams and offers no compensation if the original team declines to match an offer.

However my understanding and what I've found does state the team holding the tag can absolutely be willing to negotiate compensation like we did in the Adams case.

 

[Capitol 8805]

Franchise Tag is the bigger (Top5 salary average) of the two and restricts player movement and awards two first round picks if they leave.
Transition Tag is slightly smaller (Top10 salary average) of the two and allows negotiating with other teams and offers no compensation if the original team declines to match an offer.

However my understanding and what I've found does state the team holding the tag can absolutely be willing to negotiate compensation like we did in the Adams case.

Thank you much appreciated.

 

[milani]

Aaron Jones is supposedly going to be released by the Vikings.

Would there be any world in which a reunion would make sense??

It's hard for me to see it as likely at all. But I really like Jones and think there could be some sense to it.

We all just heard how Emanuel Wilson is not getting tendered. AFAIK, the minimum price for tendering would be like 3.5m, or nearly 6m for a 2nd-round tender.

I would have to think that would be around the ceiling we would want to pay for RB2. But depending on the cost I guess you could look at it like Jones vs a late round pick for our likely RB2. Of course Lloyd is still a total unknown and I don't know what the plan is with Brooks (maybe I missed something there)

I also think that he has a remaining 2m guaranteed from Minnesota. So hypothetically speaking if he agreed a minimum contract with us (~1.3m I think) then they would still have to pay him 700k for instance. BUT he had been set to make like 10m this year. So that would obviously have to come at a significant discount.

It's hard for me to get a good read on him overall, cuz in general the vikings offense kinda stunk last year. And he missed a few games after going through a super heavy workload the year prior, but he would presumably take on a smaller role behind Jacobs now.

Food for thought anyhow!

I am not so sure this would be the direction to go. Jones is not as durable as Jacobs but he could certainly fill Brandon's shoes if the latter went down. If we knew we had Lloyd to play each week this would not be a topic.

 

[milani]

Aaron Jones is supposedly going to be released by the Vikings.

Would there be any world in which a reunion would make sense??

It's hard for me to see it as likely at all. But I really like Jones and think there could be some sense to it.

We all just heard how Emanuel Wilson is not getting tendered. AFAIK, the minimum price for tendering would be like 3.5m, or nearly 6m for a 2nd-round tender.

I would have to think that would be around the ceiling we would want to pay for RB2. But depending on the cost I guess you could look at it like Jones vs a late round pick for our likely RB2. Of course Lloyd is still a total unknown and I don't know what the plan is with Brooks (maybe I missed something there)

I also think that he has a remaining 2m guaranteed from Minnesota. So hypothetically speaking if he agreed a minimum contract with us (~1.3m I think) then they would still have to pay him 700k for instance. BUT he had been set to make like 10m this year. So that would obviously have to come at a significant discount.

It's hard for me to get a good read on him overall, cuz in general the vikings offense kinda stunk last year. And he missed a few games after going through a super heavy workload the year prior, but he would presumably take on a smaller role behind Jacobs now.

Food for thought anyhow!

I also think the Packers are just using Brooks in a mini FB role since we have none. He can block. He can hit the line. Pass catch and run skills need work.

 

[tynimiller]

I also think the Packers are just using Brooks in a mini FB role since we have none. He can block. He can hit the line. Pass catch and run skills need work.

I still think he can absolutely run better than many think, he just isn't as slippery or anticipates defenders lines as well. He averaged 5.8 yards per carry his final two years in college.

 

[gopkrs]

I still think he can absolutely run better than many think, he just isn't as slippery or anticipates defenders lines as well. He averaged 5.8 yards per carry his final two years in college.

I thought he looked pretty good running a couple years ago. At least had potential. I don't think so anymore. I just don't think he is a good runner.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm happy not to be playing against David Montgomery in our own division anymore. He was always tough against us. He was traded by Detroit

 

[CarryTheG14]

I'm happy not to be playing against David Montgomery in our own division anymore. He was always tough against us. He was traded by Detroit

I think that was a heck of a trade for them. a 4th rounder for a 29 year old RB.

 

[milani]

I think that was a heck of a trade for them. a 4th rounder for a 29 year old RB.

Glad to get him out of the division. He was tough on us even with the Bears. Detroit will still have a strong running game.