Preseason Game 1 Packers vs Jets Game Thread

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If you forced me to pick just one guy for the biggest flop of the game now having watched the All22 - Mecole Hardman....dear lord it was like every play he was supposed to get the ball he made a mistake and he blew a few blocks too massively.
 

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I watched a quarter and fell asleep. Long day working in the humidity. -- and tried to watch... Pack gave me no motivation to do so.

On the 8th day, God created "We'll get 'em next week". ;)
I just logged into this thread, and from a lot of the comments, seems the Packers will be lucky to win 3 games this season.

Although it sounds like sleeping through most of the game was wise on your part weeds. I very seldom watch PS games. One commenter was so in awe of the Jets they believe the Jets will push the Bills for the conference title.

Yikes.
 

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I just logged into this thread, and from a lot of the comments, seems the Packers will be lucky to win 3 games this season.

Although it sounds like sleeping through most of the game was wise on your part weeds. I very seldom watch PS games. One commenter was so in awe of the Jets they believe the Jets will push the Bills for the conference title.

Yikes.
More than the performance of the squad that is concerning is the physical health of the roster. One week into preseason and the injury report sounds like WK 8 in the regular schedule.
 

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I'm very curious as to what seems to be the development issue for Monk...his tape in college was legit iOL worthy to minimum be a solid second man up someday IMO and I tend to agree...there is a real chance if Jennings and some others can show more promise or that Trey Hill shows more as back up center than Monk is gone.
Monk seems to lack the footwork to maintain good body position. Players in the NFL have more dynamic moves than those they see at most levels in college. Monk gets caught off balance, or unable to turn to meet attacks so he resorts to looping an arm outside the defender to try to draw them in which pretty much always draws a holding call.
 

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Monk seems to lack the footwork to maintain good body position. Players in the NFL have more dynamic moves than those they see at most levels in college. Monk gets caught off balance, or unable to turn to meet attacks so he resorts to looping an arm outside the defender to try to draw them in which pretty much always draws a holding call.

You're not wrong, but I would not have predicted this from his film in college is all. Still a lot of time on his rookie deal but he is flirting with being more of a presence in GB via PS than on active.
 

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I just logged into this thread, and from a lot of the comments, seems the Packers will be lucky to win 3 games this season.

Although it sounds like sleeping through most of the game was wise on your part weeds. I very seldom watch PS games. One commenter was so in awe of the Jets they believe the Jets will push the Bills for the conference title.

Yikes.
Nah! Nothing to get excited about. They played a horrible game and did not look prepared. When you play as bad as they did it gives the coaches a lot of teaching opportunities and that can work in their favor. It gets any chips they have on their shoulders off.
 

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You're not wrong, but I would not have predicted this from his film in college is all. Still a lot of time on his rookie deal but he is flirting with being more of a presence in GB via PS than on active.
Agreed. When you watch his clips from college it looks like he's going to be a solid interior lineman. One of the things that often bothers me about the clips is that they rarely show those where a guy doesn't do well or completely looks like a fish out of water. We need to see more of them to make better evaluations.
 

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Agreed. When you watch his clips from college it looks like he's going to be a solid interior lineman. One of the things that often bothers me about the clips is that they rarely show those where a guy doesn't do well or completely looks like a fish out of water. We need to see more of them to make better evaluations.

Agreed, but many hosting sites now are building college game collections similar to All22 and if you really want to watch some film you can. I never purposefully watched Duke games solely for him but felt I saw enough real reps to have seen some fish out of water moments if he had indicators of such.

Here's to hoping he's just getting his feet under him at this next level.
 
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My biggest concern in this game was not 4 qtrs of mostly uninspired football. It’s our last 2-minute Drive. I think it’s the WORST possible decision of this game is to tuck tail and walk away defeated. That’s the worst Coaching decision since MLF F’d up a Clock scenario last season imo. It left a really sour taste in my mouth. I’m sure people will disagree and that’s fine, but I could’ve lived with and defended every other mistake.

1st n 10 Jets34 with :22 sec and 2 Timeouts. If it’s we don’t want to get hurt? Let’s just take the season off. What a huge missed opportunity.
 
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I half agree, half disagree.

With 22 seconds remaining that is an opportunity for someone to show what they've got. Then again, from the sounds of it LaFleur was just itching to get into the locker room to cuss them out.

With several PS games ending in ties, or in the case of the Lions where they just didn't finish the game, it doesn't bother me too much. By that point in a PS game, I think that the coaches know most of what they need to get into the next week of training camp practices.
 
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I half agree, half disagree.

With 22 seconds remaining that is an opportunity for someone to show what they've got. Then again, from the sounds of it LaFleur was just itching to get into the locker room to cuss them out.

With several PS games ending in ties, or in the case of the Lions where they just didn't finish the game, it doesn't bother me too much. By that point in a PS game, I think that the coaches know most of what they need to get into the next week of training camp practices.
i think it sets a terrible example of not finishing. You walk the walk. You cant ask a player to finish properly and then set an example of how you don’t finish. I don’t care if we go 0-4 to finish. We don’t quit 22 feet from the Top of K1 because we “knew we could do it” and it’s just a practice climb for Mount Everest. It’s a terrible example in a game where the crowd had to endure that imo. I genuinely felt bad for our fans I almost went to that S show and I’m glad I similarly didn’t make the effort. I like to at least try to finish a game we’re losing.

For a fan? That was the worst performance by a Packer team (correct me if I’m wrong but some of these guys will be starters or backing up a starter) in over a full year. Then topped by a total turd finish with everyone watching. That’s my opinion and it’s how I felt and I rarely say that.

Matt LaFleur didn’t have these guys ready. Not saying that’s eternal, but it was 100% factual we looked uninspired to be there. I’m a realist I know these are not all 1st team, but that was not a good way to display our intentiond. NY throughly embarrassed our bench
 
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With a minute left in a game like that with 4th stringers in. I don't see the point.
 
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With a minute left in a game like that with 4th stringers in. I don't see the point.
and that my friend is where we disagree on coaching style or management style. Finish the game unless you’re up 3 scores. Stop quitting with 10 minutes left to quit time at work. Winners don’t quit even if it looks like we’re destined to lose. I’d rather work with the employee that stays 10 minutes late looking for how to better themselves and I’ve been known to stay late with them. Especially on a tough day. That would be unacceptable for Vince Lombardi and I’d agree with him. Those little things are important.

I’d have rather rewatched our Bears loss
Disappointing
 
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Although I don't think Lombardi had a very good preseason record
From a post in this forum by Packerlifer almost exactly nine years ago,

Vince Lombardi famously said that "Winning is a habit." So it's not surprising that even when the games didn't "count" Lombardi's Packers won. They were undefeated in preseason play 3 straight years 1960-62 and again in 1967. They won 19 straight preseason games from 1959-62 and 21 in a row over other NFL teams through 1963. To all the other records and accolades of the Lombardi years can be added a 42-8 preseason record.
 
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Although I don't think Lombardi had a very good preseason record
Well he apparently saved the juice for when it mattered :)

I’ll tell you what.. IF LaFleur wins 3 Championships in a row, I’ll let him off the hook. :whistling:
 

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You're not wrong, but I would not have predicted this from his film in college is all. Still a lot of time on his rookie deal but he is flirting with being more of a presence in GB via PS than on active.
Didn't one of your insiders say his first year that he was making a really good impression in his first camp, and they all had high hopes for his future?

I wonder what the heck happened.... :(
 

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Didn't one of your insiders say his first year that he was making a really good impression in his first camp, and they all had high hopes for his future?

I wonder what the heck happened.... :(

Yup Monk had some great early on training camp days…issue has been zero growth in most categories. Some guys come in at their ceilings, I’m praying he’s just slower to prove he isn’t one of them.
 
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It's annoying when we're supposed to have such a good wide receiver room, and they can't catch the ball.
Yes. on that part, I’m hoping it was just opening Day Jitters. Their 45% catch % was tough. Although there’s a lot of switching in and out. It’s mean we played 4 QB’s. Hard to get any real semblance of consistency when a new QB comes in every 5 tosses

I also noticed the players that we least expected caught passes and Vice Versa. Doubs, Hicks and Heath went 2 catches on 9 targets.

We only logged 64 yards Receiving. Now granted we also only used 21 minutes of clock time which means we couldn’t find any rhythm. The Run game was good at 5.9 per and 124 yards and 1 TuD
 
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Amar Johnson was one positive Saturday night. He just looks really fluid. He had deceptive speed and very good contact balance. He reminds me a little bit of Khylin Hill but at Aaron Jones size 5’10” 205lb. Imo. He’s plays with mid 4.4’s speed in pads and it translates.
This is a player I’d be looking closely at for Practice squad.
 
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Yup Monk had some great early on training camp days…issue has been zero growth in most categories. Some guys come in at their ceilings, I’m praying he’s just slower to prove he isn’t one of them.
When that happens I wonder about the line coach. There must be more than one. Put him with a different coach maybe. No doubt in my mind that SOMETIMES the coach can ruin a player
 

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When that happens I wonder about the line coach. There must be more than one. Put him with a different coach maybe. No doubt in my mind that SOMETIMES the coach can ruin a player
Rare here - we have one of the better OL coaches
 

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