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Didn't want to start a new thread for this "voidable years related to salary cap" post...
Per PFT the Eagles have over $380mil attached to voidable years on contracts, more than DOUBLE any other team. They're counting on massive cap escalation over next few years and even so will be facing cap-hell at some point. Keeping their SB window open as long as possible. Time for GB to overtake them & close that Super Bowl window up. ;)
Wow! That is a lot of cap to lose. It makes me wonder if they could end up in a bind where they had to dump nearly everyone who isn't on a free agent or low draft pick cap figure just to avoid going over. That would be a real downer.
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread for this "voidable years related to salary cap" post...
Per PFT the Eagles have over $380mil attached to voidable years on contracts, more than DOUBLE any other team. They're counting on massive cap escalation over next few years and even so will be facing cap-hell at some point. Keeping their SB window open as long as possible. Time for GB to overtake them & close that Super Bowl window up. ;)
I agree. It would also apply to other teams such as Chicago. Every year we prevent them is a year they fall behind (in 2 years their QB $$ begins to escalate). Chicago, Who has $106Mil+ in 2025 OUTSIDE Free agent annual contracts and QB salary alone.

GB now has less than <$23mil per year tied up in outside FA signings and QB average annual salary more than Chicago ($106 vs $128). Yet I have not heard anyone (except Myself!) speaking to them pushing “all in”. Keep in mind we sent Kenny Clark packing so most of that $23Mil average salary difference evens up very quickly (2026?? Maybe You guys can help me there it’s whenever Kenny is off the books)

How come no panic over mortgaging our future in Chicago?? Starting next year they are the same position as us! Then in 2027 they working out a massive extension for 2028 and beyond. Caleb isn’t playing for $10Mil in 2028, correct me if I’m wrong on that?

Chicago has 3 years and they’re toast. Let’s go ahead and help them ruin 2025 :whistling:
 
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I agree. It would also apply to other teams such as Chicago. Every year we prevent them is a year they fall behind (in 2 years their QB $$ begins to escalate). Chicago, Who has $106Mil+ in 2025 OUTSIDE Free agent annual contracts and QB salary alone.

GB now has less than <$23mil per year tied up in outside FA signings and QB average annual salary more than Chicago ($106 vs $128). Yet I have not heard anyone (except Myself!) speaking to them pushing “all in”. Keep in mind we sent Kenny Clark packing so most of that $23Mil average salary difference evens up very quickly (2026?? Maybe You guys can help me there it’s whenever Kenny is off the books)

How come no panic over mortgaging our future in Chicago?? Starting next year they are the same position as us! Then in 2027 they working out a massive extension for 2028 and beyond. Caleb isn’t playing for $10Mil in 2028, correct me if I’m wrong on that?

Chicago has 3 years and they’re toast. Let’s go ahead and help them ruin 2025 :whistling:
It isn't easy for coaches and GMs. Ownership and fans expect winners no matter what. No excuses are accepted. It doesn't matter if you lose all 22 starters during the first two weeks of the season, a losing record puts your job in jeopardy. They pretty much run scared from year to year.

That, in my opinion, accounts for the biggest reason teams end up in trouble with the cap. They're doing everything possible to make this year successful, forget about next year or the year after.

We see it constantly in the NFL. A new coach and GM comes in and everyone expects them to be playing in the big game in 3 years. If you haven't turned the corner from let's say a 4-13 team to 12-5, and a couple of playoff wins, your job is on the line in the 3rd year. Bum Phillips said it best. "There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired". he got it right.
 

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I thought this is an interesting story. Not because Big Mike coached Parsons for the first 4 years of his career, but because Mc - whom I've always been a personal fan of, did indeed move back to Wisconsin. I might have even commented when he took the Dallas job that after he's fired by Jones (or, not re-signed I guess) he would be a prime candidate to move back to Wisconsin because his wife is a Green Bay native and the kids pretty much grew up in the area. Have to admit that I always liked Mike McCarthy - even when it "became time". Mac is the kind of guy I could sit down with and shoot-the-sh*t with. Plus, we share a November 10th birthday with the USMC and the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

 

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I thought this is an interesting story. Not because Big Mike coached Parsons for the first 4 years of his career, but because Mc - whom I've always been a personal fan of, did indeed move back to Wisconsin. I might have even commented when he took the Dallas job that after he's fired by Jones (or, not re-signed I guess) he would be a prime candidate to move back to Wisconsin because his wife is a Green Bay native and the kids pretty much grew up in the area. Have to admit that I always liked Mike McCarthy - even when it "became time". Mac is the kind of guy I could sit down with and shoot-the-sh*t with. Plus, we share a November 10th birthday with the USMC and the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

I don't know a lot about McCarthy personally, but I've also heard he's a very likeable person. I think his being back in Green Bay will eventually lead to him being involved with the Packers in some capacity. I'm not talking about coaching, or anything of that nature, but possibly ending up on the Board of Directors like so many from the past have become.
 

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If Parsons play stays the same and hes healthy at the age of 29 and we're trading him before the draft (or FA) we're getting back at MINIMUM 2 1st rounders plus probably a 4th

Yes the Cowboys fumbled it so bad we'd get back more trading him at age 29 versus them trading him at 26
That's like my pattern when it comes to buying and selling cars. We never buy new; we buy used SUbarus 3-5 years old, and still under (or just a hair over) 100K. Then, 3-5 years later, we sell them and buy another one that's 3-5 years old - and we've never lost money. I've sold a couple of cars for as much as $2K more than we paid, and I think the worst we've done is break even on a car that had a blown head gasket. I still got as much as we'd paid when the head gasket was unblown.

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Anyway, though.... back on the topic of Micah Parsons...

Parsons, IMO, has had a couple of pretty stellar days here in Green Bay. He's not only rockin' the Casbah in practice, but he's had some really positive things to say about the difference between the organizational culture in Green Bay compared to Dallas. He was deeply impressed with the enormous differences between the lockerrooms and just the whole facilities, even on a technically "non-practice" day.

He showed up on an off-day Tuesday to get his injection, and was frankly amazed to see that almost the entire team was there, just finding things to do and things to work on. And even just "hang out" with one another. Said that would never happen in Dallas.

Well, actually, he said he'd never seen anything like it before, and since his only pro experience has been in Dallas, it pretty much means that in his experience, that would never happen in Dallas. As he spoke of it in a 15-minute "press conference", he was just in awe. Sounds like he really never quite fully understood how different things could be in NFL cities not named "Dallas Cowboys."

"I've never been in a locker room with guys like this," Parsons said. "I came in Tuesday for treatment and I saw almost every guy in the locker room. I said this is the first time I've ever seen this and that just shows how much these guys wanna be here. They say it's because there ain't nothing else to do [in Green Bay], but there's other things you could do.


They just want to be around each other and hang out. That's important to have guys that want to come into the building and want to be here. I think that's important and when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work."


Several of us (Tyni I'm almost sure, certainly Voyageur and Old School, think Pokerbrat, Heyjoe, and Weeds as well, and I know I'm leaving some people out because there were so many of us saying it) have all agreed that the fact that he has a reputation as a man who doesn't fit in with the locker room does not neccessarily mean that he's the reason the pieces don't fit together - maybe it's the organizational culture that is totally dysfuncional, and a player of his caliber is being held back by all the usual Cowboy ********.

Maybe he's just a guy who doesn't know how to make sense of the total chaos that is Dallas, but has just never seen what an actual healthy locker room feels like - until this week.

So here's the link to the article, and then I am going to edit in the link to his 14-minute sorta "press-conference". I highly recommend listening to it (even if it's just that you listen to the audio tab while watching cat videos, Russian dashcam car crashes, and whatever favorite flavor of **** you prefer,) but just listen to the guy speak. It's 14 minutes well-spent (especially since y'all are going to be watching videos of Russian cats crashing into trucks anyway while listening to it).

I think the man makes one hell of a first impression.

I had never seen him speak before, and I was really struck by how calm, low-key, articulate he was.... choosing his words carefully... he sounded every single minute of the video like a thoughtful, reasonable, deep-thinking man - humble, intelligent, complimentary, and just plain insightful.

Much of my impression on who and what this man was/is was based on the comments that made it into print the last few weeks. This interview really rattled my preconceptions of him. So I did a litte bit of googling, in search of his Wonderlic score, and found that it is not available.

But what I did find is that he completed a 4-year degree at Penn State in ciminal justice, with a 4.0 GPA. And he did it in just 4 years, while playing fulltime DI college football.

To put it into perspective, Penn State's criminal justice curriculum is not an "easy A" for jocks - it ain't art history. Only 35% of all enrollees graduate "on time" in 4 years, and the percentage of student athletes who accomplish that is certainly lower - especially fulltime college athletes who pull straight "A"s. This is not a major picked out by a jock who wants a career in professional sports; this is a guy who chose a very hard major, usually because he wants to be an FBI or homeland security agent, detective, investigator, etc. This is a man who wants to spend his lifetime after sports doing something extremely difficult and challenging, yet rewarding. Which says a lot right there.

As I said, only 1 in 3 graduate in 4 years, but 3 out of 4 need 6 years to work their way through the program, and from what I can find, Penn State students who need 6 years to work it out generally weigh in at about 2.0 - a "C" average. Parsons pulled straight "A"s and floated through it.

His 14-minute session with reporters:

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More Parsons news... it's coming out now that apparently, not only were we not the only team shopping for Parsons, we may not have even been the highest bidder - the Eagles made a "substantial offer" as well, but thankfully, Jerruh had just enough good sense to not trade Parsons in his division.

So he was just smart enough not to deal him to the Eagles, but not smart enough to find a deal in the AFC. We hit the sweet spot!

 
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It isn't easy for coaches and GMs. Ownership and fans expect winners no matter what. No excuses are accepted. It doesn't matter if you lose all 22 starters during the first two weeks of the season, a losing record puts your job in jeopardy. They pretty much run scared from year to year.

That, in my opinion, accounts for the biggest reason teams end up in trouble with the cap. They're doing everything possible to make this year successful, forget about next year or the year after.

We see it constantly in the NFL. A new coach and GM comes in and everyone expects them to be playing in the big game in 3 years. If you haven't turned the corner from let's say a 4-13 team to 12-5, and a couple of playoff wins, your job is on the line in the 3rd year. Bum Phillips said it best. "There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired". he got it right.
Exactly. I’ll just say that Packer history shows that it’s ok to go out and be aggressive in FA adding those pieces that can change games. Wolf took a chance on Favre, signed Reggie, went out and got some good WR’s and suddenly it’s 1996. Might’ve had a slight regression a few years later, but still those aggressive choices paid dividends. You can be fiscally conservative and occasionally splurge and still be long term competitive.

(not you) many people forget that GB had over $65mil reserve in cap across 25-26 seasons before Micah. Then we wisely shed Kenny at $21Mil annual. Hurts for 1 year but $20Mil yearly is 50% of the Micah deal annually. So this was good balance or what I’d call an exchange of financial collateral.

The draft selections were actually the bigger cost imo. Yet we exchanged a “known commodity” for a future “unknown product”. We get production TODAY. a 2026 draft selection does us absolutely zero good in 2025. A 2027 draft pick similar in 2026. Heck most of the time a later Day 1 draft pick doesn’t even get going for 2,3 seasons. We traded unknown for known with moderate additional cost $22mil annually. It’s aggressive but not other worldly aggressive. Much of it will be determined by timing or if we’re as close a roster as they think. Brian sure seems to think or he wouldn’t jeopardize his career in it. Our staff might be more optimistic than us. That’s just how I see it from 1000 feet elevation. It’s a great sign to see us push chips in, call it an educated gamble. Maybe they are right maybe they are wrong idk. If a couple Top NFC Teams regress I gotta feeling more the former. Detroit had better be on major point week 1 because Philly didn’t look all that impressive imo. Micah less Dallas was a RB, Miles goal line fumble away from a W imo.
 
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More Parsons news... it's coming out now that apparently, not only were we not the only team shopping for Parsons, we may not have even been the highest bidder - the Eagles made a "substantial offer" as well, but thankfully, Jerruh had just enough good sense to not trade Parsons in his division.

So he was just smart enough not to deal him to the Eagles, but not smart enough to find a deal in the AFC. We hit the sweet spot!

It's true. I mentioned that in a thread some time ago, I can't remember where. Didn't say too much about it because it was insider information so to speak. Someone inside the system who gave me that heads up. I haven't heard anything after that. But I do believe the culture differences between Green Bay and Dallas is huge. I know one player personally who has been in awe of it since he got there and loves it being like a big family.

I also should mention that he isn't the first player in recent history to take less money to go to Green Bay than they would have gotten elsewhere. There's something about being a Packer that says, "going home." I wouldn't doubt for a moment that in the back of a lot of Wisconsin raised NFL players they would have liked to end up playing in Lambeau Field as a Packer.
 
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Everyone knows I have a couple contacts in the organization, BOTH have confirmed Parsons is almost shocked at the cultural difference and feel. Only one has exchanged direct words with him but both said it sounds like Micah said it feels like a college culture more than anything - like being back at state (penn state). Dudes just being together and working….

I’m telling you guys IF Parsons buys in and falls in love with that - the ceiling is unknown high for him and with it this defense. Buy in could lead to him growing his team defense assignments more than he ever has before…his run defense could get better because of it too…

I’m hesitantly optimistic…and in truth I think again Xavier, Rashan, Josh Jacobs, and Love in a different way are the heartbeat of this team…Parsons is being embraced by the system and culture in place - that has like zero chaos or drama…he literally doesn’t know what that is like and is loving it.
 
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Everyone knows I have a couple contacts in the organization, BOTH have confirmed Parsons is almost shocked at the cultural difference and feel. Only one has exchanged direct words with him but both said it sounds like Micah said it feels like a college culture more than anything - like being back at state (penn state). Dudes just being together and working….

I’m telling you guys IF Parsons buys in and falls in love with that - the ceiling is unknown high for him and with it this defense. Buy in could lead to him growing his team defense assignments more than he ever has before…his run defense could get better because of it too…

I’m hesitantly optimistic…and in truth I think again Xavier, Rashan, Josh Jacobs, and Love in a different way are the heartbeat of this team…Parsons is being embraced by the system and culture in place - that has like zero chaos or drama…he literally doesn’t know what that is like and is loving it.
One of the primary differences is age. Our Roster is about Micah age group +- might just be simple as Micah is still growing up some (not meant as a derogatory slight)
It’s also very realistic that Micah didn’t fit the Cowboys culture or at least it just wasn’t an ideal fit there. I think that’s what they spoke of concerning the abrasive relationship and both can be true. In my own experience I’ve worked for companies in the same field. Some locations I just fit like a glove and they iterated that, so it wasn’t just me. Other locations I thought I was going to strangle someone all the down to the floor (being sarcastic but you guys know the feeling!) Like night and day.

My personal feeling is this. When Dallas propagated this whole business that Micah was a lockerroom cancer? It did us a favor. Many players (us people included) would like nothing more than to prove our former Employer wrong. Nothing wrong with it if used as proper motivation and in a dignified manner. I Hope Micah doesn’t get all verbal if we beat Dallas, let your actions and voice be displayed on the field and in OUR lockerroom. Let’s not stoop to Jerry Jones or Prescott level of demeaning them. They’ll demean themselves quite eloquently.. don’t be that guy.

This could be a marriage made in heaven. Look at Brett Favre. He was an absolute Wild Man in Atlanta and actually hated by Glanville (Favre’s interpretation) He used that as fuel.
 
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One of the primary differences is age. Our Roster is about Micah age group +- might just be simple as Micah is still growing up some (not meant as a derogatory slight)
It’s also very realistic that Micah didn’t fit the Cowboys culture or at least it just wasn’t an ideal fit there. I think that’s what they spoke of concerning the abrasive relationship and both can be true. In my own experience I’ve worked for companies in the same field. Some locations I just fit like a glove and they iterated that, so it wasn’t just me. Other locations I thought I was going to strangle someone all the down to the floor (being sarcastic but you guys know the feeling!) Like night and day.

My personal feeling is this. When Dallas propagated this whole business that Micah was a lockerroom cancer? It did us a favor. Many players (us people included) would like nothing more than to prove our former Employer wrong. Nothing wrong with it if used as proper motivation and in a dignified manner. I Hope Micah doesn’t get all verbal if we beat Dallas, let your actions and voice be displayed on the field and in OUR lockerroom. Let’s not stoop to Jerry Jones or Prescott level of demeaning them. They’ll demean themselves quite eloquently.. don’t be that guy.

This could be a marriage made in heaven. Look at Brett Favre. He was an absolute Wild Man in Atlanta and actually hated by Glanville (Favre’s interpretation) He used that as fuel.
Culture & fit is essential in almost everything. Even out here on the internet it's true. The culture on these boards is amicable, and people share information with each other. It's not confrontational and "in your face" nasty when people disagree. That's the main reason I don't want to be part of so many of them. I have no interest in trying to "outshout" others by calling their opinions lame or ignorant.

At this point, the Packer culture seems to be exactly what Parsons wants and needs. That's a good sign and can net exceptional results. Hopefully that will continue.

I'd sure like to jump on the idea that we're going to get to the big game at the end of the year but I'm a little apprehensive at this point. There are so many things that can derail that objective and the Packers still lack depth in a lot of areas making that quest pretty darned difficult.
 

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Culture & fit is essential in almost everything. Even out here on the internet it's true. The culture on these boards is amicable, and people share information with each other. It's not confrontational and "in your face" nasty when people disagree. That's the main reason I don't want to be part of so many of them. I have no interest in trying to "outshout" others by calling their opinions lame or ignorant.

At this point, the Packer culture seems to be exactly what Parsons wants and needs. That's a good sign and can net exceptional results. Hopefully that will continue.

I'd sure like to jump on the idea that we're going to get to the big game at the end of the year but I'm a little apprehensive at this point. There are so many things that can derail that objective and the Packers still lack depth in a lot of areas making that quest pretty darned difficult.
Cowboys looked pretty good against Philly. Not sure if Parson would have made a difference vs. Kenny Clark. Philly ran the ball most of the time and threw the ball infrequently but effectively short. To finish the game with a chance to beat the SB Champs in the final 2 minutes is about the best they could do.
 

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Cowboys looked pretty good against Philly. Not sure if Parson would have made a difference vs. Kenny Clark. Philly ran the ball most of the time and threw the ball infrequently but effectively short. To finish the game with a chance to beat the SB Champs in the final 2 minutes is about the best they could do.
I think Clark would have helped them if he was playing with the Cowboys Thursday night. Enough to win? Not certain there. Of course, if he was there, Clark wouldn't have been so that's another issue. Clark had 2 tackles and 3 assists. No pressures, TFLs, or QB hits. Fairly generic game outwardly so I don't have a clue what would have happened without him.

The Eagles did rack up 158 yards rushing, 4.2 YPC, and 3 TDs on the ground. Barkley scored one, and Hurts scored a pair.

Then when I look at one statistic it kind of stands out as interesting. You need to work with the figures to see it.

Hurts was the Eagles leading rusher. He had 14 carries for 62 yards, and a 4.4 YPC average to go with his 2 TDs. Barkley, who you'd normally expect to push 100 yards hard, had 18 carries for 60 yards, with a 3.3 YPC, and one TD. The rest of the Eagles rushing totals were 6-36-5.5. The Cowboys did essentially stop the run but were unable to stop Hurts from killing them with productive runs. In reality, the Cowboys did play strong up the gut but couldn't contain Hurts so the absence of Parsons could have had a lot to do with it.

Personally, I don't think Parsons would have made the difference for the Cowboys and I don't think Clark made a big difference for them in stopping the run. What I did come away with is the feeling that Hurts is going to burn a lot of teams before this season is over with his legs, unless he gets injured. The Eagles could be in for a repeat of Lombardi Trophies.
 

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Everyone knows I have a couple contacts in the organization, BOTH have confirmed Parsons is almost shocked at the cultural difference and feel. Only one has exchanged direct words with him but both said it sounds like Micah said it feels like a college culture more than anything - like being back at state (penn state). Dudes just being together and working….

I’m telling you guys IF Parsons buys in and falls in love with that - the ceiling is unknown high for him and with it this defense. Buy in could lead to him growing his team defense assignments more than he ever has before…his run defense could get better because of it too…

I’m hesitantly optimistic…and in truth I think again Xavier, Rashan, Josh Jacobs, and Love in a different way are the heartbeat of this team…Parsons is being embraced by the system and culture in place - that has like zero chaos or drama…he literally doesn’t know what that is like and is loving it.
Walker pulled him aside and said it is like Penn State
 

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It may have already been said, but I was also reading from some of Parsons' former Dallas teammates (I think it was Lamb and/or Diggs) who basically said they couldn't think of any negative things to say about Parsons, that he was just a super stand-up solid guy too
 

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More Parsons news... it's coming out now that apparently, not only were we not the only team shopping for Parsons, we may not have even been the highest bidder - the Eagles made a "substantial offer" as well, but thankfully, Jerruh had just enough good sense to not trade Parsons in his division.

So he was just smart enough not to deal him to the Eagles, but not smart enough to find a deal in the AFC. We hit the sweet spot!

Following up on my own post here, but it's being reported now by several sources that the Eagles offered a king's ransom compared to what we paid - two 1st round picks, plus a 3rd and a 5th, plus a significant player. And we swooped in and gathered him up for two 1st-rounders and Kenny Clark, because Jerruh "scrambled eggs for brains" thought it would be more important to keep him from going to a division rival.

We literally stole this guy. It's the biggest trade steal I can think of since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray fleeced the Vikings in the Herschel Walker train robbery. Can you even imagine how much harder it would be to get past the Eagles in the postseaon if they had Parsons? This is the biggest deal I've seen since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray conspired to fleece the Vikings in the Great Trade Robbery Hearschl Walker deal.

This is biggest, boldest move Gutekunst has made in his entire time here. The entire NFL is now on notice that Green Bay is fully commited right now, all chips in, Packers are fully in it to win it immediately.
 
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Following up on my own post here, but it's being reported now by several sources that the Eagles offered a king's ransom compared to what we paid - two 1st round picks, plus a 3rd and a 5th, plus a significant player. And we swooped in and gathered him up for two 1st-rounders and Kenny Clark, because Jerruh "scrambled eggs for brains" thought it would be more important to keep him from going to a division rival.

We literally stole this guy. It's the biggest trade steal I can think of since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray fleeced the Vikings in the Herschel Walker train robbery. Can you even imagine how much harder it would be to get past the Eagles in the postseaon if they had Parsons? This is the biggest deal I've seen since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray conspired to fleece the Vikings in the Great Trade Robbery Hearschl Walker deal.

This is biggest, boldest move Gutekunst has made in his entire time here. The entire NFL is now on notice that Green Bay is fully commited right now, all chips in, Packers are fully in it to win it immediately.
I saw that total commitment out there on the field against the Lions. It's been a quite a while since I saw it. Every player spent their energy on every play and to me it was obvious on the defense which Swarmed the ball carriers and constantly pressured Goff in the pocket. Had the Lions not spent an inordinate amount of time working on their short passing game to counteract a lot of heat in the pass rush, it would have been a total debacle for them.

On offense, we can't judge the job anyone did as being sub-par because they did everything necessary to put themselves in a position to score on 5 possessions out of 12. If you continue to do that, you'll win a lot of games, as long as your defense holds up. The beautiful thing is that they had no turnovers while our defense collected one INT against the Lions. A back breaker on a promising drive for the Lions which ended up not giving them a boost going in at half time. I once again will single out Kennard. He made two gigantic blocks, that sprung plays that would have been stopped before they got started. The guy really stood out as a replacement for Tom. He deserves playing time somewhere across that line because of his hustle. His footwork is something special too. Getting him was a smart move by the Packers staff that made it happen. He's going to end up being a valuable asset as this season progresses and has already shown his worth.

One thing that I saw that spoke volumes about the dedication of this team. The interchanges between LeFleur and Love on the sidelines. The mutual respect between the two was on display without any question. Not only are the players reaching inside themselves to get the best, but it also looks like that same dedication is being displayed by the coaching staff. This was the most impressive opening game of the season that I've seen out of the Packers for a long time.
 

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Following up on my own post here, but it's being reported now by several sources that the Eagles offered a king's ransom compared to what we paid - two 1st round picks, plus a 3rd and a 5th, plus a significant player. And we swooped in and gathered him up for two 1st-rounders and Kenny Clark, because Jerruh "scrambled eggs for brains" thought it would be more important to keep him from going to a division rival.

We literally stole this guy. It's the biggest trade steal I can think of since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray fleeced the Vikings in the Herschel Walker train robbery. Can you even imagine how much harder it would be to get past the Eagles in the postseaon if they had Parsons? This is the biggest deal I've seen since Jerruh and Coach Hairspray conspired to fleece the Vikings in the Great Trade Robbery Hearschl Walker deal.

This is biggest, boldest move Gutekunst has made in his entire time here. The entire NFL is now on notice that Green Bay is fully commited right now, all chips in, Packers are fully in it to win it immediately.
Do you think Jerry did not want to see Parsons go to his division rival?
 

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Do you think Jerry did not want to see Parsons go to his division rival?
That a trick question?

The only way Jerry wouldve traded Parsons to Philly is if Philly offered them their next 3 drafts. And when I say that I mean drafts. Not just 1st rounders. I mean their next 3 entire drafts

You aren't making a trade like that within the division under pretty much any circumstance. Hell it was suprising enough they traded him within the conference and people think there was any chance of him being traded within their division?
 

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Let's say the Packers defense is as good over the entire season as it looked in game one against the Lions...are there still people out there questioning whether this was a good trade? I'm on record as saying the Packers got a generational steal in this trade, the kind of trade that teaches future-GMs that you don't trade guys like Parsons for ANYTHING.
 
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Let's say the Packers defense is as good over the entire season as it looked in game one against the Lions...are there still people out there questioning whether this was a good trade? I'm on record as saying the Packers got a generational steal in this trade, the kind of trade that teaches future-GMs that you don't trade guys like Parsons for ANYTHING.

This trade must bring a SB for me to say it was a great trade or smart....eh...that almost sounds too much. We need to minimum see a SB for me to say the risk was worth the attempt.
 

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This trade must bring a SB for me to say it was a great trade or smart....eh...that almost sounds too much. We need to minimum see a SB for me to say the risk was worth the attempt.

I understand the sentiment, but I think that's almost impossible. As a humorous hypothetical, lets say the defense plays this week during the regular season and post season for the next three years. However, in each of the next three NFC championships, Love finds the loosest spot on the turf while performing a routine handoff to seal the victory. He slips so bad, it looks like he steps on a banana peel, fumbles, and we lose on the resulting scoop and score.

Does that make the trade any less good?
 
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I understand the sentiment, but I think that's almost impossible. As a humorous hypothetical, lets say the defense plays this week during the regular season and post season for the next three years. However, in each of the next three NFC championships, Love finds the loosest spot on the turf while performing a routine handoff to seal the victory. He slips so bad, it looks like he steps on a banana peel, fumbles, and we lose on the resulting scoop and score.

Does that make the trade any less good?
Of course nuance could enter in and amend it but right now, the picks, Kenny and the fiscal restraint perhaps more than anything and the impact in future that will have that folks don't ever consider - lead me to say get me to the dance at least once.
 

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I go back and forth.

On the whole I can't 100% co-sign to the idea that we HAVE to get to a Super Bowl for the trade to be worth it. There's just too many variables there. For me, by that logic....For his time here we paid Rodgers over 300 million dollars...and he only ever made it to one Super Bowl. Think of all the resources (money, picks, etc) we could've invested elsewhere if we had not invested that heavily into Rodgers. Since he only got us to one Super Bowl, was it a "failure" to keep bringing him back on a big contract?

(to be fair, there are probably some here who would answer yes to that lol)

But at the same time I would say that for the next 3-4 years to be deemed a "success" we should be aiming to make a SB appearance and that *should* have been the standard/expectation even BEFORE Parsons. So in that sense, yeah, we really need to make it, but it's also not entirely on Micah either
 
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