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Mathews the new ILB?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Eli Haugen, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Eli Haugen

    Eli Haugen Cheesehead

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    I never really thought of it. But moving Mathews to the middle would fix a few problems we have.

    1. We dont have great ILBs
    2 We seem to have too many tallented OLBs

    In the Middle Hawk and Jones didnt get it done last year. and Lattimore doesnt give me supreme confidence entering the season. No real WOW factor. We have consistant. and we have above average play maker for half the season.

    At OLB we have Peppers. Neal, and Perry could be a dominant rotation. And Mulumba is a 260 pound beast thats an above average rotation guy... This gives Perry a position, which seemed to be a question mark for some.

    Its all about getting the most tallent on the field. Mathews coverage skills, and speed could be a huge upgrade inside. With a first and second rounder to fill in behind mathews...
     
  2. thisisnate

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    Really not that eager to put our best defensive player out of position.
     
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  3. Vrill

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    Matthews is our best pass rusher.
     
  4. AllouezPackerFan

    AllouezPackerFan Section 121 Row 47

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    Respectfully disagree. I think Clay needs to do what Clay does best.....rush the QB. I don't like the idea of putting our best defensive player in an uncomfortable position. Let Clay be Clay.
     
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  5. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    Matthews isn't moving to ILB on anything like a permanent basis. IMO what they've been doing is making the defense less predictable, particularly on passing downs.
    http://host.madison.com/sports/foot...cle_ddcf0235-a9d4-5b99-baa3-d4021fc81d2f.html

    Peppers will be moving around some too - I think they practiced a stunt with him rushing inside yesterday. In Demovsky's ESPN radio report yesterday, he noted that Neal and Perry weren't practicing but he predicted we will be seeing a lot of LBs in various alignments on D this season. The idea I'm getting from all that's been said and written is we'll see a more attacking defense. Less 'read and react' on the DL and more one-gapping. More blitzes coming from different spots, less knowing where Clay’s pass rush will be coming from. The risk of a more aggressive D is it can be gashed for big plays, but it puts a burden on offenses and the Packers’ dynamic offense should be able to overcome the occasions when the D does get gashed.
     
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  6. Carl

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    Is this thread a joke?
     
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  7. AllouezPackerFan

    AllouezPackerFan Section 121 Row 47

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    My guess is probably not. Clay has been taking reps at ILB the last two days at training camp.
     
  8. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    I'm with Jack, it's a subpackage. Remember that we also play a nickel set with 3 OLB and 1 DL, so that might be the actual story here.
     
  9. AllouezPackerFan

    AllouezPackerFan Section 121 Row 47

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    Completely agree.
     
  10. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    "1-3-7 psycho package". Capers finally has the personnel to run it.
     
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  11. mradtke66

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    If we only have a front 4, that'd be a Quarter package. 5 dbs = nickel, 6 = dime, 7 = quarter
     
  12. HyponGrey

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    1 ILB would make that a Dime, still a typo on my part. Still not enough :coffee:

    You forgot: 4 DB = "Base"
     
  13. JBlood

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    I thought the defensive calls were supposed to be simplified this year. Now you've got pro bowl players playing out of position? How does this simplify anything, other than making it simply mystifying?
     
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  14. Poppa San

    Poppa San SB I trophy First of four Staff Member Moderator

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    S-U-C-C-E-S-S! One arm chair QB down. Now to work on the rest of the league.
     
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    In coverage only I think Matthews would be a downgrade over Hawk and Jones, all other aspects he's an upgrade.
     
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  16. JBlood

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    While the coaches are at it, I think they ought to try Matthews on the offensive line. He'd make a hell of a center, or tackle, or even a tight end. We need more guys playing 60 minutes. I think Chuck Bednarik is still alive and he could be Matthews' personal coach on both sides of the ball.
     
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    Clay has already rushed from the inside once in awhile in the past. Him doing that is nothing new.

    Him playing a significant number of snaps at ILB would be illogical though and in no way do I see it happening.
     
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  18. Packerlover

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    I think the Packers should move Matthews around to get the best pass rush from him as possible. left side, right side, delayed blitz up the middle. ANYTHING that gives him a shot at the quarterback
     
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  19. wist43

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    Matthews has played in the middle before - the most notable sack of Michael Vick in the 2010 playoff game came from the middle.

    Capers had 2 down linemen (Raji and Jenkins), and sent Woodson, Matthews, Hawk, Walden on the blitz. The sack takes place at about 1:50 in this highlight.



    The name of the game in playing odd-man fronts is to create confusion and mismatches. On this play, Capers sent 6 rushers, Vick didn't read it presnap, and Matthews got home before Vick could react.

    Our personnel are much better suited now to mix things up like this - mainly with the addition of Peppers, D. Jones another year wiser, and Daniels essentially filling Jenkins role.

    This sack took place out of a 2-4 front, which I am hyper-critical of, but if it is used as a subpackage, and in this multiple way, it can work. In this case, Matthews being in the middle, and Woodson coming on the blitz - the Eagles were completely unprepared.
     
  20. TJV

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    [sarcasm]What a surprise: The 2-4-5 worked great with Woodson, a dynamic Raji, Jenkins, Collins and a healthy Matthews. It could work very well to great again with a healthy Matthews, Peppers, Daniels, and D. Jones, etc. With three or four play makers Capers and his schemes work very well. With few to no play makers (when Matthews was out or one-handed) and the rest of the roster decimated by injuries, Capers and his schemes don't work well. Shocking![/sarcasm] So naturally a certain poster bitches to high heaven over and over and over again about the 2-4-5 scheme (he doesn't understand) and calls Capers names when he has few to no play makers and the rest of the roster decimated by injuries. :rolleyes:
     
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  21. JBlood

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    A few alignments played with consistent excellence beats multiple alignments with inconsistency. Just a variant of K.I.S.S.
     

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