HyponGrey
Caseus Locutus Est
I'm beginning to think that's the real Bus Cook here guys.
What El Guapo said. So your definition of failure is if they didn't start last Sunday. LMAO.
If 3 guys from each draft are starting, you have too many injuries, or aren't structuring your contracts right. Besides, there's still time for more guys to start.You'd be best served reading the whole thead. It makes you seem more informed. The poster prior to my post said that Ron Wolf said that you should get three starters out of each draft to be effective. That's the part you missed.
I responded that we didn't have three starters from ANY of the referenced drafts, who started on sunday. That's the part you kind of caught.
Here's the approriate place for the LMAO.
... Most teams in the league would kill to have the kind of consistent success we've had in the past 20+ years...
So true. Man, sometimes I feel so spoiled. My first real memory from a Packers game is Brett Favre jogging onto the field against Cincy in '92. My dad, who to this day is a big Majkowski fan, was saying, "Who the hell is this bum?" Timing is everything....Even the Packers from the 20 year timeframe previous to the past 20+ years would kill to have the kind of consistent success we've had in the past 20+ years.
Other than that, I think you've covered all the apologies that are typically made for TT. The guy has whiffed on the last three drafts. If you are going to live by the draft, you can't miss for three straight years.
I agree. What a whiffer. He has driven this team into the ground. The Packers are the joke of the league and rated near the bottom. No one fears playing the Packers. It's like 1975 again. Our starters couldn't start anywhere and the guys we cut don't end up getting picked up by anyone. What is the Packer win-lose record since TT took over-- abysmal, right? We expect the Packers to lose every week, don't we? The team hasn't won any division titles for months! Only one SB victory. What a loser.
If only he could draft better players... Let's cut all these bums and get Favre back.
Geez, I think I am going to start cheering for the Vikings.
/sarcasm
I do wish Ted would be a little bit more open-minded when it comes to free agency. I agree 100% with not giving aging veterans big money - that cripples a team, especially one from a small market. However, this stubborn insistence on being strictly a "draft and develop" team, is seriously starting to hurt us. Take the 49ers - they give up a 6th round pick - that's right, a 6th round pick, to acquire Anquan Boldin. Um ... if they don't have Boldin, we beat them last week. Period. This is just one example of giving up a meager 6th round pick, to get a veteran player with a reasonable contract, that helps your team win and the 49ers did exactly that. There's no sugarcoating this - it's all there in black and white print in the standings.
As for the Favre circus, I took Thompson's side from day one and I'll never waver on that.
At some point you just need to actually try and think and ask yourself:Thank Farve it was sarcasm because it had nothing to do with my post. Mine was very limited to the last three drafts. I certainly hope that you hope that we do better in future drafts than those three. And if you disagree with three starters per draft, you beef is with Ron Wolf, not me, he said it.
Boldin may be a special deal as well. He went from one Harbaugh to another. He may never have been on the open market.As for Boldin, simply saying he was had for a 6th round pick is an oversimplification. The Ravens told him they needed to restructure his contract, or they would cut him and make him a free agent. He chose the latter, so my guess is the Ravens called around the league to gauge interest, and took the best deal they could get.
I assume that this was a rhetorical question. If your MO is to draft and develope, and the player you draft don't start, then it certainly will reflect negatively. I must have missed something here.Does the lack of 'starters' in the first few years therefore necessarily reflect negatively on the GM of Team B?
Boldin may be a special deal as well. He went from one Harbaugh to another. He may never have been on the open market.
As far as FAs go, we extended 2 key players and 1 important player last year.
This coming year we have Raji, Jolly, Finley, Shields and a few others. We will have difficulty keeping some of these guys.
I think he's plenty active in free agency, at least when it comes to kicking the tires on guys who can help us. However, Ted's not one to get caught up into a bidding frenzy for a guy, which is good. He knows there's a lot more to actually building a team than cashing in all your chips for one player. Also, there's a variety of factors fans aren't privvy to, like what kind of deals are needed to retain our own players, and whether said free agent actually wants to come here, or whether they are merely using our interest in their services as a bargaining chip to drive the price on their services up, i.e. Steven Jackson and Atlanta.
As for Boldin, simply saying he was had for a 6th round pick is an oversimplification. The Ravens told him they needed to restructure his contract, or they would cut him and make him a free agent. He chose the latter, so my guess is the Ravens called around the league to gauge interest, and took the best deal they could get.
This is a very important point, often overlooked by our fans. We do a fantastic job at managing the cap and extending key players, BEFORE they become free agents, so in essence, we do sign free agents. They just happen to be our own guys.
Yeah Aaron must hate that we resigned two key young defensive players. I mean, what QB actually wants a solid defensive unit so he doesn't have to carry the team on his shoulders?I'm sure that AR takes solice in the fact that, while the team greatly needs to protect him from being the most knocked down QB in the NFL, and could surely benefit by signing a FA Olineman, we resigned CM3 and Sam Shields.
Yes. Apparently you missed the rest of the post as well as the whole 'thinking' process I was suggesting.I must have missed something here.
Yeah Aaron must hate that we resigned two key young defensive players. I mean, what QB actually wants a solid defensive unit so he doesn't have to carry the team on his shoulders?
Are you implying that Ted should not have resigned Matthews and Shields?
Is there no ability to read here? Many, IN THIS THEAD have discussed signing FAs. Someone came along and equated signing OUR OWN players to signing FAs. I pointed out the the lunacy of that. I never implied anything of the sort, but I will now. Sam Shield vs. picking up a FA that fills a glaring hole. No brainer.
You do know that we have 15 million cap space.
The Packers rank sixth in room beneath the cap at $10.89 million.
It's a fair comparison. A player is player no matter how you obtain him.Someone came along and equated signing OUR OWN players to signing FAs. I pointed out the the lunacy of that.
The biggest "glaring hole" on our team is the secondary's inability to cover. Shields is one of the best cover guys in that secondary. If Shields leaves, guys like House and Bush get more snaps. You're right, it is a no-brainer.I never implied anything of the sort, but I will now. Sam Shield vs. picking up a FA that fills a glaring hole. No brainer.
It's a fair comparison. A player is player no matter how you obtain him.
The biggest "glaring hole" on our team is the secondary's inability to cover. Shields is one of the best cover guys in that secondary. If Shields leaves, guys like House and Bush get more snaps. You're right, it is a no-brainer.
Do people really have knowledge of perspective GM's and their capabilities?? I think that is a bit of a silly question because I don't think it is answerable. Just because there is no obvious replacement/ better option doesn't mean that they don't exist. That being said, I think TT is doing a great job overall.If we fire Ted who would the Packers hire?
It's a fair comparison. A player is player no matter how you obtain him.
The biggest "glaring hole" on our team is the secondary's inability to cover. Shields is one of the best cover guys in that secondary. If Shields leaves, guys like House and Bush get more snaps. You're right, it is a no-brainer.