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How does Ted Thompson compare to other NFC North GMs of his era?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by GB2009, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. GB2009

    GB2009 Cheesehead

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    Here is what I come up with. What do you guys think?

    Team(Draftees 05-09)


    All-Pros
    Pro Bowlers
    At least 16 starts
    Total Picks


    Packers
    1
    1
    10
    43
    Vikings
    1
    1
    9
    26
    Lions
    0
    1
    6
    30
    Bears
    1
    1
    8
    34

    Team(Draftees 05-09)
    % at least 16 starts
    % Still on the Team including IR
    % Starters as of Today


    Packers
    23.25 (16/43)
    60.47 (26/43)
    13.95 (6/43)
    Vikings
    34.62 (9/26)
    46.15 (12/26)
    26.92 (7/26)
    Lions
    20.00 (6/30)
    36.67 (11/30)
    20.00 (6/30)
    Bears
    23.53 (8/34)
    47.06 (16/34)
    23.53 (8/34)
     
  2. GB2009

    GB2009 Cheesehead

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    This does not take into account each team's Free Agents.
    I am still working on that, trying to find all the players signed by Ted Thompson and all the players he didn't resign.
    Looking at this, Ted Thompson (2005 - Present) has done only as well as the rest of the GMs in the North. GMs of his era Vikings: Rick Spielman (2006 - Present), Lions: Matt Millen (2001 - 2008), Bears: Jerry Angelo (2001 - Present)

    He has done a decent job considering what he started with, Mike Sherman Era.
     
  3. PackersRS

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    That was a great compilation! Hope you post often.
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    My take on this is that TT is a very good talent evaluator. But to pull it off on his philosophy of building almost exclusively through the draft, you need to nail it in an impressive rate, like the Steelers do. You can't miss on the first rounds, and you need to get at least 2 important starters each draft.
     
  4. JeffQuery

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    Yeah...what he started with..the "Mike Sherman era"...when they Packers were in the PLAYOFFS every year! :)
    :rotfl:
     
  5. bad93ex

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    43 draft picks 1 pro bowler.

    6/43 are starters as of today?
     
  6. GB2009

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    Hey JeffQuery, I'm glad you pointed that out. However, Sherman got players from Wolf's GM era and Thompson got players from Sherman's GM era. Who do you think got the better players...Sherman or Thompson? Sherman of course. Here's another breakdown of players for you.

    Players in Wolf era that started at least 8 games in Sherman’s first year as GM.
    1.Leroy Butler
    2.Chad Clifton
    3.Na’il Diggs
    4.Santana Dotson
    5.Brett Favre
    6.Mike Flanagan
    7.Bubba Franks
    8.Antonio Freeman
    9.Ahman Green
    10.Bernardo Harris
    11.William Henderson
    12.Vonnie Holliday
    13.Mike McKenzie
    14.Marco Rivera
    15.Bill Schroeder
    16.Darren Sharper
    17.Mark Tauscher
    18.John Thierry
    19.Mike Wahle
    20.Nate Wayne
    21.Tyrone Williams
    Players in Sherman era that started at least 8 games in Thompson’s first year as GM.
    1.Nick Barnett
    2.Ahmad Carroll
    3.Chad Clifton
    4.Donald Driver
    5.Brett Favre
    6.Mike Flanagan
    7.Bubba Franks
    8.KGB
    9.Al Harris
    10.William Henderson
    11.Grady Jackson
    12.Cullen Jenkins
    13.Aaron Kampman
    14.Paris Lenon
    15.David Martin
    16.Mark Roman
    17.Mark Tauscher
    Players in Sherman era that started at least 8 games in Thompson’s first year as GM w/ relation to Wolf era.
    1.Chad Clifton
    2.Brett Favre
    3.Mike Flanagan
    4.Bubba Franks
    5.William Henderson
    6.Mark Tauscher
    Players in Sherman era that started at least 8 games in Thompson’s first year as GM w/o relation to Wolf era.
    1.Nick Barnett
    2.Ahmad Carroll
    3.Donald Driver
    4.KGB
    5.Al Harris
    6.Grady Jackson
    7.Cullen Jenkins
    8.Aaron Kampman
    9.Paris Lenon
    10.David Martin
    11.Mark Roman
     
  7. GB2009

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    Hey Bad93X...
    Here's the explanation to your question...

    43 draft picks 1 pro bowler.
    6/43 are starters as of today?

    As of today... of 43 draft picks in the Thompson era from 2005-2008, 1 has become a pro bowler, Nick Collins- he has also been voted by the AP as a first team All-Pro.
    Of the 43 picks Thompson has made from 2005-2008, 6 are current starters today listed on their website.
     
  8. bad93ex

    bad93ex Cheesehead

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    It just seems the data is not in favor of TT.
     
  9. GB2009

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    bad93ex,
    You are right. Thompson has been the GM for the Packers for 4 years not including this year. In Wolf's first 4 years (1991-1994), he has 3 pro bowlers from draft picks. Mark Chmura, Dorsey Levens, and Brett Favre (not his draft pick but traded for him). Thompson has one in Nick Collins. So far not too bad when you consider Ron Wolf is a legend and he has done this before on previous teams.

    Free Agency might be a different story. I'll have to work on that one.
     
  10. Raptorman

    Raptorman Vikings fan since 1966.

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    Just one thing. Spielman had nothing to do with the Vikings 2006 draft. He was put in his current position after the the draft that year. Fran Foley was the man in the 2006 draft.
     
  11. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I got 5 in that list that had to be replaced cuz they sucked
     
  12. bad93ex

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    Who is projected for the Pro Bowl this season for the pack?
     

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