Headset problems in New England

[JBlood]

Were there headset problems Sunday night in New England? Is so, maybe they aren't just bad luck:









By Larry Brown September 13, 2007 - Posted in Football


“At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots,” said one Lion who doesn’t want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. “Mike Martz really had ‘em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches’ booth goes out.
“Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive.”
Matt Millen, the Lions’ GM, was talking to Bengals’ coach Marvin Lewis at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.
“Yeah, I know,” Lewis said. “Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too.”




Belichik is a winning coach, who seems to make every player he has perform at a high level. But stuff like this makes me wonder how much is due to his proven dishonesty.

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[Grave]

Me too. Is there any investigation about Sunday night?

 

[ivo610]

Nothing surprises me when it comes to cheating in New England. Surprised Randy didn't go off about it instead of crying. Then again doubt he knew about it.

 

[Munch]

I've never trusted Bill Belacheat.

 

[JBlood]

What happens to a hitter who sneaks a peek at the catcher's signs:

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There's got to be something similar that could happen to cheating coaches.

 

[DevilDon]

I wondered about the TV feed to the coaches box being delayed in Atlanta too.
It seems it would be simple to mess with electronic signals in your home stadium.

 

[PackerFan87]

Loool I hope there weren't...that's some bull if there was, oho!

 

[PatriotsFan]

Bill Belichick cut the communication lines.

 

[dansz15]

Bill Belichick cut the communication lines.

Lol wouldn't surprise me. With that sweatshirt and hood he looks like the Emperor from Star Wars.

 

[Pegger Packer]

Lol wouldn't surprise me. With that sweatshirt and hood he looks like the Emperor from Star Wars.

MOST DEFINITELY... i wish someone could have gotten a screenshot of his scowl with his hood up, because the resemblance was uncanny.

 

[Croak]

Were there headset problems Sunday night in New England? Is so, maybe they aren't just bad luck:









By Larry Brown September 13, 2007 - Posted in Football


“At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots,” said one Lion who doesn’t want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. “Mike Martz really had ‘em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches’ booth goes out.
“Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive.”
Matt Millen, the Lions’ GM, was talking to Bengals’ coach Marvin Lewis at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.
“Yeah, I know,” Lewis said. “Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too.”




Belichik is a winning coach, who seems to make every player he has perform at a high level. But stuff like this makes me wonder how much is due to his proven dishonesty.

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To my knowledge there were no electronic communication problems. The plays at the end went haywire due to the confusion that the sack caused according to our coaches. They weren't expecting Flynn to get sacked and thus didn't have plays in place to compensate for it.

If anything, the Officials weren't communicating to our team at the end very well. The team was standing there waiting to see if it was a 4th down or a 1st down and again the coaches were left hurrying to choose a play. This one can't be blamed on Belicheat this time. Heck the Packer had them on the ropes in a perfect situation to score and leave no time for Brady. But the coaches weren't prepared for what happened and then didn't communicate fast enough.

 

[PatriotsFan]

Lol wouldn't surprise me. With that sweatshirt and hood he looks like the Emperor from Star Wars.

MOST DEFINITELY... i wish someone could have gotten a screenshot of his scowl with his hood up, because the resemblance was uncanny.

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[Jess]

Come on, guys. Just because we lost it doesn't mean New England cheated. It means they were better than us. Not by a lot, but they were.

 

[AmishMafia]

Come on, guys. Just because we lost it doesn't mean New England cheated. It means they were better than us. Not by a lot, but they were.

Belichek is a proven cheater. He now has to live with the consequence of never being trusted. Yes the Patriots won the game and we have to accept that. But we know for a fact the Belichek will cheat if given the opportunity.

There used to be a large box that was never opened that the Pats would have on the sideline. It was sometimes speculated that there was radio jamming equipment in there. I haven't heard of any issues in the last few years after this came out. The box has stopped coming out also.

My dislike of Belichek came about 5 years ago when one of his players was seriously injured. The NE medical staff went onto the field and where working on him. A member of the medical staff, for the home team, who happened to be an orthopedic surgeon, was concerned about the hit the kid took to his knee, and went out to help. Belichek went ballistic yelling for him to get away from his player. Belichek was so concerned injury information about his player would be leak out, that he didn't wouldn't let the guy help his player.

 

[PatriotsFan]

Belichek is a proven cheater. He now has to live with the consequence of never being trusted. Yes the Patriots won the game and we have to accept that. But we know for a fact the Belichek will cheat if given the opportunity.

There used to be a large box that was never opened that the Pats would have on the sideline. It was sometimes speculated that there was radio jamming equipment in there. I haven't heard of any issues in the last few years after this came out. The box has stopped coming out also.

My dislike of Belichek came about 5 years ago when one of his players was seriously injured. The NE medical staff went onto the field and where working on him. A member of the medical staff, for the home team, who happened to be an orthopedic surgeon, was concerned about the hit the kid took to his knee, and went out to help. Belichek went ballistic yelling for him to get away from his player. Belichek was so concerned injury information about his player would be leak out, that he didn't wouldn't let the guy help his player.

I bet if the exact same situation happened last night, except it was the NE staff trying to help a Packers player and MM went ballistic, you would say MM was just being cautious of NE because you never know what NE might do for an advantage.

How do you know Belichick wasn't cautious of the opposing medical staff? I mean, a strength and conditioning trainer tried to injure a player 2 weeks ago, anything can happen

 

[Grave]

I bet if the exact same situation happened last night, except it was the NE staff trying to help a Packers player and MM went ballistic, you would say MM was just being cautious of NE because you never know what NE might do for an advantage.

How do you know Belichick wasn't cautious of the opposing medical staff? I mean, a strength and conditioning trainer tried to injure a player 2 weeks ago, anything can happen

you never know what NE might do for an advantage.

Right.

 

[DevilDon]

I bet if the exact same situation happened last night, except it was the NE staff trying to help a Packers player and MM went ballistic, you would say MM was just being cautious of NE because you never know what NE might do for an advantage.

How do you know Belichick wasn't cautious of the opposing medical staff? I mean, a strength and conditioning trainer tried to injure a player 2 weeks ago, anything can happen

Have you ever heard of the Hippocratic Oath? I don't think Strength and Conditioning coaches take it.
Rest easy my friend, we're not calling NE fans cheaters, just your coach.
You sure would like to think that you live in a world where you trust doctors, and I do, except in Boston.

 

[AmishMafia]

I bet if the exact same situation happened last night, except it was the NE staff trying to help a Packers player and MM went ballistic, you would say MM was just being cautious of NE because you never know what NE might do for an advantage.

How do you know Belichick wasn't cautious of the opposing medical staff? I mean, a strength and conditioning trainer tried to injure a player 2 weeks ago, anything can happen

Huge difference. The guy was a specialist in joints/ligament damage. The NE medical staff knew who he was and had begun talking to him, they seemed very interested in what he had to say. Its not like the Dr. tried to cart him off to a private examination room. Only the NE medical staff was touching him. Belichek did not want anyone from the other team knowing the extent of the injury with disregard for the health of his player.

And no. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it was the other way around. I am glad Rodgers sat out the game. Sure we would have been better off with him in, but his long term health is important also.

 

[Zeck180]

The New England Patriots with BB will never be trusted, they still more an less cheat, but make it less obvious. Technology today is more advanced as it was in 2007 when they got caught cheating.

 

[PatriotsFan]

The New England Patriots with BB will never be trusted, they still more an less cheat, but make it less obvious. Technology today is more advanced as it was in 2007 when they got caught cheating.

Oh jeez. They weren't caught because technology wasn't advanced enough. They had a camera on the sidelines pointing towards the Jet's sidelines, in plain view for everyone to see. After the overblown media crusade that was spygate, do you really thinkBB wouldn't cheat? He would be suspended/expelled from the league. The Pats don't need cheating to win, as we all saw in 07 as they dominated the league (except the Giants :frown

 

[red4tribe]

There is no need to make excuses for the loss. It is quite annoying when fans blame a loss on the refs, or the headset, or some other variable.

 

[AmishMafia]

Oh jeez. They weren't caught because technology wasn't advanced enough. They had a camera on the sidelines pointing towards the Jet's sidelines, in plain view for everyone to see. After the overblown media crusade that was spygate, do you really thinkBB wouldn't cheat? He would be suspended/expelled from the league. The Pats don't need cheating to win, as we all saw in 07 as they dominated the league (except the Giants :frown

This is the only time he got caught - or that we have proof. We have strong anecdotal evidence on the radio tampering. We know that ethics do not get in the way when it comes to winning for him. Therefore, there could be other ways that he is using to gain an advantage. Because they were very good in 07 doesn't prove they don't cheat. How do we know they weren't successful because they cheated? Perhaps that had the other teams game plans. Coaches knowing the opposing teams game plan/plays would have a huge advantage. Are you positive that Belichek wasn't illegally stealing the other teams game plan?

 

[PatriotsFan]

This is the only time he got caught - or that we have proof. We have strong anecdotal evidence on the radio tampering. We know that ethics do not get in the way when it comes to winning for him. Therefore, there could be other ways that he is using to gain an advantage. Because they were very good in 07 doesn't prove they don't cheat. How do we know they weren't successful because they cheated? Perhaps that had the other teams game plans. Coaches knowing the opposing teams game plan/plays would have a huge advantage. Are you positive that Belichek wasn't illegally stealing the other teams game plan?

Lol

 

[ivo610]

This is the only time he got caught - or that we have proof.

Not true. The Packers were actually the first team to catch the pats.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.
"From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

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Dont F with Jerry Parins.

 

[longtimefan]

Ivo....

Dont bring real facts into this, the Pat fans like to think there is no cheating