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Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Apr 29, 2007.

  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    We won't be trading down anymore in this draft.
     
  2. gopackgo

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    I like trading down.
     
  3. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Which Players on the team currently were product of gaining extra picks from trading down?
     
  4. PackFanInSC

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    Just from last year (2006):

    We traded pick #36 to New England for Picks #52 and #75

    With #52 we picked Greg Jennings
    With #75 we picked Jason Spitz

    With the #37 pick that we acquired for Javon Walker
    We traded #37 and #139 to Atlanta for #47, #93, and #148

    With #47, we picked Darin Colledge
    With #93, we traded to STL for #109 and #183
    With #148, we picked Ingle Martin

    We traded the #109 pick (from STL) to Philadelphia for #115 and #185
    With #183 (from STL) we picked Johnny Jolly

    With the 2 picks from Phildelphia we chose Wil Blackmon (115) and Tyrone Culver (185)


    So -- with our regular 2nd round pick in 2006, we traded down and got 2 starters. Then with our pick that we got for Walker, we got 5 players -- one of which was a major contributor (Colledge) and others who potentially could contribute this year (Blackmon, Culver)
     
  5. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Thanks, that's cool.
     
  6. Bertram

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    So what players did the other teams pick?
     
  7. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    doesn't matter much because we dont know that the packers would have taken them if we hadnt traded down
     
  8. Bertram

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    nice to know what we gave up in real value not just numbers
     
  9. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    very true
     
  10. PackFanInSC

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    With #36, New England chose Chad Jackson WR Florida. 2nd WR taken in draft (Jennings was 4th). Played in 12 games started 1. 13 catches for 152 yards and 3 TDs. Also returned 1 kick for 21 yards and 3 punts for 76.

    With #37, Atlanta chose Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech. Last year, he played in 13 games -- 19 tackles, 5 assists, 1 pass defended.

    With #93, STL chose Dominique Byrd, TE Southern California. Last year, played in 5 games -- 2 receptions for 39 yards and 1 TD.

    With #109, Philadelphia chose Jason Avant, WR Michigan. Last year, played in 8 games -- started 3. Had 7 receptions for 68 yards and 1 TD. Also recorded 4 tackles and 1 fumble.



    In contrast:

    Jennings played in 14 games -- starting 11. 45 catches for 632 yards and 3 TDs and 30 first downs!! Also returned 5 punts for 29 yards.

    Colledge played in all 16 games -- starting 15.



    Source: NFL.com
     
  11. Green_Bay_Packers

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    Some of you posters might like to know where Jennings first year statistics rated with great receivers' in their first year in Packer history.

    WR Billy Howton- 1952 #2 Rd - No. rec 53 --1,231 yds--Ave 23.2--lg t90--Td 13 -12 game NFL Season

    Wr James Lofton -1978- 1 rd---No. Rec 46 --818 yards---Ave 17.8-- lg t58--Td 6---16 game NFL season

    WR Sterling Sharpe- 1988-1 rd-No. rec 55--791 yds--Ave. 14.4rec --lg 51-
    Td- 1 - 16 game NFL games

    WR Gregg Jennings-2006-2 rd-No.rec 45--632 yds--Ave 14.0--Lg T75----- Td 3- 16 game NFL season

    WR Max McGee-1954-3 Rd.- No. rec 36--614 yds--Ave 17.1--Lg t82----------Td 9- 12 game NFL season

    Don Hutson -1935 End /DB (now known as a WRand Don was a Defense back also (players played both ways , offense and defensive in 1935)

    E Don Hutson first year 1935 -There was no NFL draft before 1936

    No rec 18 --404 yards---Ave 23.3 yds--lg t83--Td 6--12 game NFL season


    Green Bay Packers were primarily a running team in in the early 30's but when Don Hutson "came on board" in '35 with the Packers that all changed. Don Hutson caught 99 Touchdown passes from 1935-1945. Don was the Packer first real Super Star. In 1939 he averaged a Packer record 24.9 yards per catch on 34 catches which stand stills today.
     
  13. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    That's awesome! I didn't even know Max McGee was a WR, I thought he was TE.
     
  14. cheesey

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    You really didn't know that Zero? I keep forgetting, there are lots of young guys on here!
     
  15. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Yeah man I thought Max was TE lol
     
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    The tight ends during "The Glory years Packers" era coached by Vince
    Lombardi were Ron Kramer (1959-1964) And Marv Fleming (1964-1970)

    Max McGee (1954-1957 Thru 1967) was a little slim to be tight end . He was 6'3"- 210 LBS when he retired.
     
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    I remember when Don Hutson used to own the record for receiving TDs. Had the game been different and had Hutson played 16 game seasons, he'd probably have 150+ TDs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the defender able to chuck the receiver the whole way down? Nowadays, you only get one chuck within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Completely different game nowadays.

    Lofton was great, a real pleasure to watch. He played his heart out every game, even though he played on losing teams. Every time he touched the ball, he was a threat. I remember reverses and double reverses he turned into long TDs. Plus Lynn Dickey was good at the long ball and it was a blast watching Dickey throw bombs to Lofton.

    Sharpe would have been a Hall of Famer had it not been for that injury. Could you imagine if Favre had Sharpe to throw to until the 2000s? We'd probably have another SB or two.
     
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    Some of the older folks here could tell you this story much better than I could. In the 1st Super Bowl, McGee wasn't even expecting to play. He had been out drinking the night before and was on only a few hours of sleep, and was badly hungover. I think either Dale or Dowler went down that game, and McGee had to come in. He ended up having a spectacular day.
     
  19. BangTheDrum

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    **** I'm 22 and I def knew Max was a WR... but I was always kind of a Packers history buff so to me thats like saying you thought Nitschke was a DT
     
  20. all about da packers

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    Wait, he WASN'T a DT? :rubeyes:

    I kid, I kid... I know (Friedrich) Nitschke was a German philosopher... :lol:
     
  21. Zero2Cool

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    Yep, I know the story. I actually have the SB on DVD and the ice bowl too! The reason I thought he was a TE was because I thought Boyd Dowler was a TE. I guess the guys shape jus made me think TE for some reason.
     
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    The guys back then didn't have the bodies of the players today, thats for sure!
     
  23. PWT36

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    Zombieslayer Posted "Some of the older folks here could tell you this story much better than I could. In the 1st Super Bowl, McGee wasn't even expecting to play. He had been out drinking the night before and was on only a few hours of sleep, and was badly hungover. I think either Dale or Dowler went down that game, and McGee had to come in. He ended up having a spectacular day.""

    Super Bowl Packers 35 Chief's 10- on January 15, 1967.

    I will let former Green Bay Press-Gazette Sports Editor Art Daley tell the story:

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    " McGee in his 11th year of pro football was great. he got his chance when Boyd Dowler was hurt on 3rd play of the game. and caught twp touchdown passes of 37 and 17 yards and set up 5th Touchdown on 31 yard catch. Maxie finished with seven catches and 138 yards.

    Ellijah Pitts scored two touchdowns on cracks (runs)of 3 and I yards and (FB)Jim Taylor scored the other touchdown on a 14 yard run.

    Green Bay's big indivdual gun was (QB) Bart Starr , the NFL's "Most Valuable Player." he carried on that tradition winning the nod as the Super Bowls first Outstanding player.

    Starr completed 18 of 23 passes for 250 yards and Two Touchdowns ...and was successful on 11 of 13 third down plays. He marched th Bays on touchdown drives of 80, 73, 5, 56, 80 yards.

    The Packers offense never let up and rolled up 358 yards including 228 in the air, (and had ) 21 first downs and average of 5.6 yards per play compared to the Chiefs' 3.7. The Bays ran 64 plays, the Chiefs 59."


    This is from another article in the same copy of the Press-Gazette.


    "Bart Starr was named the winner of Sport Magazine Super Bowl Award as the outstanding player of Sunday's game . He will receive a 1961 Corvette at a luncheon in New York.. Starr is the fourth Packer to win the coveted award since 1958. Paul Hornung in 1961, Ray Nitschke in 1962 and Jim Taylor in 1965.

    The Sport magazine editor said that both Starr and McGee were considered for the award but "we selected Starr for his excellent overall job in leading the Packer offense of its decisive victory."





    These articles were From my very yellow (with age) copy of the Green Bay Press-Gazette dated Monday, January 16, 1967. I hope you enjoyed the articles

    Max McGee did tell the story that he was out most of the night before the Super Bowl I game, but he had a great game anyway. .
     
  24. Bertram

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    It was Boyd Dowler that went down, and Max had told him before the game not to go down today because he wasn't feeling very well :)
     
  25. Zero2Cool

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    isn't it great? I love the packers history
     

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