Do you think he will ever get a statue at Lambeau? Just curious what you guys think.
The best post I have seen from you. Hopefully he will have to throw less as season goes on. Old man River is alittle old to be getting in a shootout every weekYes, he will and statistically, he's already the greatest QB of all time.
I've noticed lately that the people that tend to hate on Brett are the types that for the most part, don't enjoy their own lives - sad. They really envy that Brett continues to remain relevant and is again the leading candidate for NFL MVP. They hate he LOVES what he is doing and they really hate that he continues to find huge amounts of success in doing so.
If his groin injury isn't too lingering, and if All Day continues his mediocre ways (in regards to Adrian and not an average NFL RB), Favre should again be in the top 5 at season's end, and close to the top in team wins.
Bart Starr has one of the best QB records in the postseason of all time. Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: The Lord of Postseason StatsGreastest of all-time? Tom Brady? Peyton Manning?Bart Starr? Ofcoarse Starr does not have the numbers but back in the day it was 3 yds and a cloud of dust in the Black & Blue division but yeah some how I don't see a shrine put up on Murphy,Thompson and McCarthys watch.
Bart Starr has one of the best QB records in the postseason of all time. Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: The Lord of Postseason Stats
Favre needs to first de-trone Starr as the greatest Packers QB of all time, then he can be considered for the greatest QB of all time.
Stats, as Favre fans keep reminding me, don't matter as much as wins. And even though Favre has the most wins altogether, he played 18 seasons, and has only 1 SB ring...
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As far as statue is concerned, there are A LOT of people right now that wouldn't even consider his number being retired, and you want a statue of him? That's got to be a joke. Over my dead body that a Minnesota player gets a statue at Lambeau Field.
Greastest of all-time? Tom Brady? Peyton Manning?Bart Starr? Ofcoarse Starr does not have the numbers but back in the day it was 3 yds and a cloud of dust in the Black & Blue division but yeah some how I don't see a shrine put up on Murphy,Thompson and McCarthys watch.
So you're saying that winning in the playoffs is much harder? Because that's exactly what I'm saying. That's why Starr was a better QB than Favre. 2 times SB MVP, that IMO is more important than a league MVP.That is a highly biased posts ... - Most the times most of the fans, keep reminding that Rodgers stats are better than Favre's ... to back up the claim that Rodgers is clearly the better quarterback, when he isn't ...
Playing regular season is about consistency, whereas playing in the play offs is actually very different - as it's one single game where everything is "at stake" ...
Having one or only a few "bad" games during the preseason, *can* be remedied ... whereas in the play-offs you don't get a 2nd chance ...
How many would have pegged the Giants as Super Bowl winners in the 2007 season ? or the Steelers winning in 2008, based on both teams play during the regular season ?
Mind you that New England Patriots went 16-0 in the 2007 season ... only to lose to the Giants in the Super Bowl ...
So you're saying that winning in the playoffs is much harder? Because that's exactly what I'm saying. That's why Starr was a better QB than Favre. 2 times SB MVP, that IMO is more important than a league MVP.
Of course, IMO, the gap between the 2 is not large. Played in different eras, different environments. But nonetheless, Star is the greatest Packers QB of all time. Favre is the 2nd.
Bart Starr? You're kidding us, right?
Favre is a different animal. Brett Favre wins in ANY era and under ANY circumstances. Bart Starr wins only under certain conditions, namely a dominant offensive scheme featuring dominant rushing.
I think if you're gonna compare, you have to set up the argument in a sensible manner. Saying Starr is a better NFL QB than Favre because he's got more Championships is like saying Roy Gerela is the greatest Steelers field goal kicker because he's got the most rings. Exactly - Roy, who???
I agree that Favre is a better QB than Starr, but you can't compare a QB to Kicker.
Did you read the link I posted, AT ALL?Bart Starr? You're kidding us, right?
Favre is a different animal. Brett Favre wins in ANY era and under ANY circumstances. Bart Starr wins only under certain conditions, namely a dominant offensive scheme featuring dominant rushing.
I think if you're gonna compare, you have to set up the argument in a sensible manner. Saying Starr is a better NFL QB than Favre because he's got more Championships is like saying Roy Gerela is the greatest Steelers field goal kicker because he's got the most rings. Exactly - Roy, who???
Did you read the link I posted, AT ALL?
In what do you base your arguments that Favre would win in any era, as opposed to Starr only winning because of conditions?
That is called CLUTCHINESS. It is a QB intangible. Saying that Favre had "bad days" during more than 10 postseasons is preposterous.Play Offs ---> "Who is best on that given day" (doesn't matter what the regular season record was) ... - Not necessarily meaning that either of the teams are bad, just that one of the teams will most likely just be plain better on *That* given day ...
So show me how bad those teams were... Last time I checked, the only year in which Favre won the SB we were the BEST D in the league and the BEST ST team in the league...For one ... Take a look at the Packer Teams that won those 5 Super Bowls, not mention how that team faired against the rest in the NFL ...
Then compare the teams that Favre played with - and you *might* see why Favre didn't win more than 1 Super Bowl - so far ... - Yet for most part of his Career in Green Bay - regardless of teams, Packers were still a pretty "consistent" team that had regular play off runs ...
I agree that Favre is a better QB than Starr, but you can't compare a QB to Kicker.
Don't get me started on Mason "Wide Right" Crosby...Lets face it
Mason Crosby is better than Brett Favre
Don't get me started on Mason "Wide Right" Crosby...
That is called CLUTCHINESS. It is a QB intangible. Saying that Favre had "bad days" during more than 10 postseasons is preposterous.
If you're gonna take SB titles out of the equation, then Marino is the best qb of all time, not Favre. Because in average, Marino had better stats AND results in the regular season than Favre. Regular season-wise, the Miami Dolphins are the best team in the NFL, in winning percentage.
Favre spent 7 seasons with both Holmgren and White. So you're saying that from 92-98 only the 96 Packers were a good team? And they only won 1 SB.Put Mike Sherman, Rhodes, Mcburger on Starr's team and lets see how many SB he wins
I don't think you understood my point. It certainly wasn't about comparing QB's to Kickers.