Favre or Vick

[all about da packers]

Mike Vick Stats

Year G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ QB-Rating
2001 8 2 113 50 44.2 785 6.95 52 2 3 21/113 11 4 62.7
2002 15 15 421 231 54.9 2936 6.97 74 16 8 33/206 44 8 81.6
2003 5 4 100 50 50.0 585 5.85 49 4 3 9/64 7 2 69.0
2004 15 15 321 181 56.4 2313 7.21 62 14 12 46/266 35 8 78.1
2005 15 15 387 214 55.3 2412 6.23 58 15 13 33/201 27 3 73.1
2006 16 16 388 204 52.6 2474 6.38 55 20 13 45/303 30 8 75.7
TOTAL 74 67 1730 930 53.8 11505 6.65 74 71 52 187/1153 154 33 75.7




Brett Favre Stats:
Year G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1991 2 0 4 0 0.0 0 0.00 0 0 2 1/11 0 0 0.0
1992 15 13 471 302 64.1 3227 6.85 76 18 13 34/208 30 9 85.3
1993 16 16 522 318 60.9 3303 6.33 66 19 24 30/199 37 5 72.2
1994 16 16 582 363 62.4 3882 6.67 49 33 14 31/188 44 4 90.7
1995 16 16 570 359 63.0 4413 7.74 99 38 13 33/217 59 5 99.5
1996 16 16 543 325 59.9 3899 7.18 80 39 13 40/241 49 11 95.8
1997 16 16 513 304 59.3 3867 7.54 74 35 16 25/176 61 9 92.6
1998 16 16 551 347 63.0 4212 7.64 84 31 23 38/223 47 9 87.8
1999 16 16 595 341 57.3 4091 6.88 74 22 23 35/223 52 11 74.7
2000 16 16 580 338 58.3 3812 6.57 67 20 16 33/236 41 7 78.0
2001 16 16 510 314 61.6 3921 7.69 67 32 15 22/151 53 13 94.1
2002 16 16 551 341 61.9 3658 6.64 85 27 16 26/188 39 7 85.6
2003 16 16 471 308 65.4 3361 7.14 66 32 21 19/137 42 7 90.4
2004 16 16 540 346 64.1 4088 7.57 79 30 17 12/93 50 12 92.4
2005 16 16 607 372 61.3 3881 6.39 59 20 29 24/170 40 7 70.9
2006 16 16 613 343 56.0 3885 6.34 82 18 18 21/134 49 8 72.7
TOTAL 241 237 8223 5021 61.1 57500 6.99 99 414 273 424/2795 693 124 85.1

 

[all about da packers]

In Vick's first four years of full time starting (minus the 2001 season where he was a rookie AND 2003 season when he got injured), his record as a QB:
2002: 9 Wins, 6 Losses, 1 Tie
2004: 11 Wins, 5 Losses
2005: 8 Wins, 8 Losses
2006: 7 Wins, 9 Losses

OVERALL RECORD: 35 Wins, 28 Losses, 1 Tie - WINNING PCT: .547

In Brett's first four years of full time starting, his record as a QB:
1992: 9 Wins, 7 Losses
1993: 9 Wins, 7 Losses
1994: 9 Wins, 7 Losses
1995: 11 Wins, 5 Losses

OVERALL RECORD: 38 Wins, 26 Losses - WINNING PCT: .594


Number of Superbowls won by Brett: 1
Number of Superbowls won by Vick: 0 (aka the number of superbowls won by the Yikes :wink: )


Number of MVP titles by Brett: 3 (95, 96, and co-MVP in 97)
Number of MVP titles by Vick: 0
Source: Wikipedia


Number of Probowls by Favre: 8
Number of Probowls by Vick: 3 (03, 05, 06)
Source: Wikipedia


Vick is definitely the better athlete, but that doesn't translate into being a better QB.

Favre is hands down more durable: Vick injured in his 3rd season, Favre has yet to miss a game due to injury (knock on wood!).


Favre is the better QB.

 

[Yared-Yam]

Show off

 

[all about da packers]

Show off

:lol:

Don't hate just because I ain't statistically challenged.

 

[PackOne]

I just went to the "introduction" area on here, and guess what?
GBP is from England! Thus i bet he doesn't have the easy access we have to Packer stuff.
So.....GBP..........any questions you have, PLEASE feel free to ask, and don't feel like it's a dumb question! We are here to help you!!!
The only way anyone can learn, is to ask!
Cheesey

Okay just to make you happy - although, I don't think it really matters where your from to ask a stupid question. It's like me asking about comparing comparing David Beckum to Wayne Rooney. I'm all for new posters, but come on.

Anyway, the breakdown ...

Screw stats I just watch games.

Can he elude to sack? Favre Vick
Can he break a big run? Vick
Can he audible and read the defense? Favre
Does he show leadership skills on the team? Favre
Can he throw the deep ball? Favre Vick
Will he take chance and throw into dangerous coverages? Favre Vick
Any Superbowls? Favre

So after this detailed and fact ridden analysis, science proves that Favre is better than Vick by let's see 6-4. There's your answer chap.

Postcript - I'm sure there is Direct TV in England.

 

[bozz_2006]

you didn't spell "Beckham" correctly. and i think this is kind of funny of more than tad ironic considering the nature of your post.

 

[Zombieslayer]

Can he elude to sack? Favre Vick
Can he break a big run? Vick
Can he audible and read the defense? Favre
Does he show leadership skills on the team? Favre
Can he throw the deep ball? Favre Vick
Will he take chance and throw into dangerous coverages? Favre Vick
Any Superbowls? Favre

So after this detailed and fact ridden analysis, science proves that Favre is better than Vick by let's see 6-4. There's your answer chap.

PackOne - Excellent job. Let's add some...

Durability - Favre
Can make mediocre receivers look outstanding - Favre
Requires an extra man on defense to keep an eye on him - Vick

With those aside, Favre still completes more difficult passes, has a better, stronger, and more accurate arm, can throw a bullet between two defenders and complete that difficult pass. These are things Vick can't do.

And despite requiring an extra man on defense to keep an eye on him, Vick doesn't seem able to exploit that.

 

[mi_keys]

Actually, in all fairness to GBP, I can understand where he is coming from. I follow Man U enough to know that they're 3 points clear of Chelsea with 4 games to go. I'm also of the opinion that Cristiano Ronaldo has the best form of any footballer at the moment. However, if I were to get in an argument with someone about whether or not Ronaldo is better than Arjen Robinson at the moment I really wouldn't be able to back it up with much. I could order the premiership and watch it over here but I don't because it's really expensive so I settle for reading reports and watching the occasional game on ESPN. I think, and I could be wrong, but I think that GBP knows Favre is better but can't really back it up when someone challenges him on it due to lack of exposure to the game. Anyways, in answer to the original post... I have none, everyone else pretty much got the gist of it down and I'd only be beating a dead horse.

 

[Raider Pride]

Actually, in all fairness to GBP, I can understand where he is coming from. I follow Man U enough to know that they're 3 points clear of Chelsea with 4 games to go. I'm also of the opinion that Cristiano Ronaldo has the best form of any footballer at the moment. However, if I were to get in an argument with someone about whether or not Ronaldo is better than Arjen Robinson at the moment I really wouldn't be able to back it up with much. I could order the premiership and watch it over here but I don't because it's really expensive so I settle for reading reports and watching the occasional game on ESPN. I think, and I could be wrong, but I think that GBP knows Favre is better but can't really back it up when someone challenges him on it due to lack of exposure to the game. Anyways, in answer to the original post... I have none, everyone else pretty much got the gist of it down and I'd only be beating a dead horse.

OK... I got it.

Compare Brett to Zizou. and you will win the argument.

R.P

 

[cheesey]

I just went to the "introduction" area on here, and guess what?
GBP is from England! Thus i bet he doesn't have the easy access we have to Packer stuff.
So.....GBP..........any questions you have, PLEASE feel free to ask, and don't feel like it's a dumb question! We are here to help you!!!
The only way anyone can learn, is to ask!
Cheesey

Okay just to make you happy - although, I don't think it really matters where your from to ask a stupid question. It's like me asking about comparing comparing David Beckum to Wayne Rooney. I'm all for new posters, but come on.

Anyway, the breakdown ...

Screw stats I just watch games.

Can he elude to sack? Favre Vick
Can he break a big run? Vick
Can he audible and read the defense? Favre
Does he show leadership skills on the team? Favre
Can he throw the deep ball? Favre Vick
Will he take chance and throw into dangerous coverages? Favre Vick
Any Superbowls? Favre

So after this detailed and fact ridden analysis, science proves that Favre is better than Vick by let's see 6-4. There's your answer chap.

Postcript - I'm sure there is Direct TV in England.

I was always taught the only stupid question is not to ask when you don't know. How is someone supposed to learn anything if they don't ask? Do you have any idea how old this poster might be? Maybe he is a relatively new fan to football, and doesn't know alot. He comes here with an honest question, because he really doesn't know, and has to wade through people calling his questions stupid? Did you EVER have to ask anyone anything? Would you have appreciated them calling you stupid just because you didn't KNOW the answer already? And as far as having "Direct TV".......maybe this person can't afford Direct TV.
Seems to me to be stupid reasons to call someone stupid.
I sure hope your job isn't being a teacher.
I'll tell you what........i know ALOT about the Packers, but ask me questions about other teams, and unless they are super stars, i probably wouldn't know the answer.
Remind me never to ask you a question.........i don't like being called stupid.

 

[Heatherthepackgirl]

This is a no brainer IMO....Favre is the best!!! Hes one tough cookieman...Vick just runs around, he should be a runningback..

 

[Green_Bay_Packers]

Thanks!

 

[PackerLegend]

like everyone has said Brett Farve is 10000 times the QB but Vick is a better athlete. The most TD passes Vick has had in a season is 20 with 13 ints now Farve on the other hand has had 39 TD passes and 13 ints that 1 away from double the amount of tds and same amount of ints.

 

[spardo62]

NO CONTEST - FAVRE :thumbsup:

Vick does not belong in the same breath. In fact if you took the athletic skills out of the equation, he would be in the bottom 5-10 currently starting. However, with that thrown into the mix I would say he is around 15-20, while Favre is around 6-10.

The gap is narrowing due to age, etc., but I do not foresee Vick ever being in the same class as Favre and if you look at careers there is really no contest.

 

[tank72]

Vick proved to be a little inconsistent last year, except for in his running game. However, Favre can have his moments. They are both very capable of making plays, and its hard to decide who you would want. I think Favre would be better at sitting in the pocket and reading the defense before making a throw, where as Vick would do the majority of analyzing as he is running downfield and trying to elude defenders.

 

[CalifPacker]

Vick can run but he just can't pass in the pro's.

 

[Raider Pride]

The Rock-Bottom line on this thread is this....

1. It was a good question and a welcome post from a Packer Fan.

2. The question was "Who is better?"

That depends on if one is talking about the last game, the last half of last season. over their carreer, or right now.

The last game... It was Brett.

The last half of the season... It was Brett.

Over their carreer it is obviously Brett.

Right now... I have no idea.

Vick is the James Dean of the NFL. He looks good doing what he does, people love him, people worship him, he will go down in history a a flash Q.B. in the NFL.

However, He is still James Dean right now. He is a car crash waiting to happen, and I hope it does not happen. I really do.

Brett however, is a different player in a different class with different skills, and one of those skills is leadership. Leadership is far more valuable to an organization than fast feet and a slick side step in the pocket.

R.P.

Edited 3X becuase I kept thinking of points to add.

 

[warhawk]

Until he proves otherwise Michael Vick is a coach KILLER and Brett Favre is a PROVEN coach SAVER.

Any other questions?

 

[Pack93z]

Well if the "early" reports are the he was running a dog fighting ring... and gambling was involved we probably won't be seeing Mr. Vick playing the game of Football very long... federal authorities might trump his golden ticket in the NFL.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/11312/VA/US/