Davante

[Patriotplayer90]

He performed the same statistically this year with Hundley as he did with Rodgers. Great argument though.

I'm not arguing with keeping him around. But we're paying him more than some teams with better passing games pay their entire WR Corp. It would be nice if for once, it felt like we got the better end of the deal. You are saying he was as productive without Rodgers, which is a fair point, but that still puts him at around a 1,000 yard receiver. Which is great, but there are players making a hell of a lot less with just as much production because of more shrewd GMs and better coaches.

 

[AmishMafia]

Congrats to Adams! The man has earned it. At first it seems like a lot of money, but by next season I'm betting it will seem like a bargain.

Next up? Lindsey and then Burnett.

 

[GleefulGary]

I'm not arguing with keeping him around. But we're paying him more than some teams with better passing games pay their entire WR Corp. It would be nice if for once, it felt like we got the better end of the deal. You are saying he was as productive without Rodgers, which is a fair point, but that still puts him at around a 1,000 yard receiver. Which is great, but there are players making a hell of a lot less with just as much production because of more shrewd GMs and better coaches.

It's all timing on when they sign contracts and whether they're still on a rookie contract or not.

A few years ago good receivers got paid $10M, now it's at $14M. You pretty much have to pay what the market rate is, and that's what we did with Adams.

 

[ls1bob]

Maybe it’s Ted’s last parting shot before he steps down(I sure hope he does) But Tae deserves it,he has been tough as nails this year with the shots he has taken.

 

[Jed12]

Love it! Locked down a stud.

Cobb and Nelson and maybe even Clay will be restructured to reflect this deal I agree with that. I don’t think we should focus so much on the very avoidable concussions and more on a player who has not only shown but proven he is is capable of playing at an elite level regardless of the man under centre.

Maybe he’s been chatting to Hopkins.....

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Love it! Locked down a stud.

Cobb and Nelson and maybe even Clay will be restructured to reflect this deal I agree with that. I don’t think we should focus so much on the very avoidable concussions and more on a player who has not only shown but proven he is is capable of playing at an elite level regardless of the man under centre.

Maybe he’s been chatting to Hopkins.....

So there are 22 elite WRs in the league?

 

[Snoops]

So do we thank Ted Thompson for this deal?

 

[GleefulGary]

So there are 22 elite WRs in the league?

Oh I get it.

TD's don't matter, but the stats you want to use do matter.

How convenient.

Do you really think there are 21 WR's better than Adams?

 

[Ogsponge]

I am not saying this is a bad move at all however, who (outside of Rodgers) has lived up to their big money contract. Unfortunately TT has a history of throwing gobs of money at “his” guys and unfortunately most of them have not been worth the money.

Again I am not saying bad move, just saying it is a touch worrisome and as much as it pains me to say it. Jordy has to be let go.

 

[HardRightEdge]

The average per year puts him among the elite:

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

Yeah, that is a sh*tload of money for a possession receiver who has yet to crack 1,000 yards.

Time marches on. Look for an upper round pick at the WR position as some cap allocation in the position group is relieved. Even if one of the other two starters is renegotiated down, that's reflects an expectation of reduced snaps.

This is a hint that Thompson is not going to be relieved of his duties, not that I ever expected that. If he were going to be bounced one would think this matter would be left to his successor.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Oh I get it.

TD's don't matter, but the stats you want to use do matter.

How convenient.

Do you really think there are 21 WR's better than Adams?

Every single WR to play with Rodgers is a TD monster. Davante is the 4th WR to have double digits TDs in a season since 2012.

There may not be 21 WRs who are better. But it's pretty clear that you could bring in any combination of WRs for the amount he is getting paid who are much more productive combined. We pay market value for our WRs, while NE is paying Gronk, Edelman, and Cooks just a tad more than we are paying Adams alone.

 

[Jerellh528]

Yikes that’s a lot of cheese.

 

[OldSchool101]

I'm fine with all 3 players (Jordy, Cobb and Clay) remaining Packers for the rest of their careers. However, at the right price. If a new deal can be worked out for each one of them to reflect their current and future value, get it done for the good of the team. It isn't like we have young up and comers at either position to take over.

Exactly. Which leads me to believe we go after a WR early this draft. I believe it will happen early 2nd day similar to Jordys rookie contract

 

[Packer96]

Every single WR to play with Rodgers is a TD monster. Davante is the 4th WR to have double digits TDs in a season since 2012.

There may not be 21 WRs who are better. But it's pretty clear that you could bring in any combination of WRs for the amount he is getting paid who are much more productive combined. We pay market value for our WRs, while NE is paying Gronk, Edelman, and Cooks just a tad more than we are paying Adams alone.

Agree, AR can make'em look good. The concussions worry me. Jordy is done, don't restructure, Thanks Jordy, but it's time to move on. Cobb's still a keeper but not at that price. Time to move on from Clay.

 

[AKCheese]

Yeah what Packer96 said. Cut ties with Jordy unless he wants to take a big big cut to stick around.

 

[Jerellh528]

Jordy still has a place on the team. Before Rodgers went out everyone was saying he’s the best red zone target in the league.

 

[OldSchool101]

Agree, AR can make'em look good. The concussions worry me. Jordy is done, don't restructure, Thanks Jordy, but it's time to move on. Cobb's still a keeper but not at that price. Time to move on from Clay.

I think it’s very possible TT is eyeing an OLB/Pass Rush specialist or WR with what is the best draft pick we’ve had in 10 years, this allows us be bold in negotiating a more club friendly contract with some of these high profile players who are underperforming and fighting the inevitable age battle.
We also have the draft pick resources in 2018 to confidently move up in the first couple of rounds (if even necessary) by trading one of our compensatory picks. This wasn’t an option until last draft and it dramatically increases the probability of acquiring our ideal selections early this time round

 

[RRyder]

Every single WR to play with Rodgers is a TD monster. Davante is the 4th WR to have double digits TDs in a season since 2012.

There may not be 21 WRs who are better. But it's pretty clear that you could bring in any combination of WRs for the amount he is getting paid who are much more productive combined. We pay market value for our WRs, while NE is paying Gronk, Edelman, and Cooks just a tad more than we are paying Adams alone.

Problem is we've seen Rodgers not be able to make every receiver look great. Hell he struggled when Adams got thrust into a #1 role before he was ready just 2 years ago.

One of the biggest myths right now is Rodgers will make mediocre receivers look good/great even though we've seen that's not so much the case.

I love Rodgers but he needs talented pass catchers as much as any QB

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Problem is we've seen Rodgers not be able to make every receiver look great. Hell he struggled when Adams got thrust into a #1 role before he was ready just 2 years ago.

One of the biggest myths right now is Rodgers will make mediocre receivers look good/great even though we've seen that's not so much the case.

I love Rodgers but he needs talented pass catchers as much as any QB

I think it's pretty safe to say that no other QB in the league would have posted a 31/8 TD/INT ratio with the incredibly mediocre cast of pass catchers that he had that year. Cobb is who he's been ever since. Average. James Jones is a guy who couldn't get employment elsewhere. Adams couldn't catch a pass and was one of the worst WRs in the league per PFF. Richard Rodgers was a heavier, slower version of the below average TE he is now. So yes, the understanding is that the players need some sort of ability in order to look good with Rodgers throwing the ball.

 

[7thFloorRA]

Davonte is awesome and he deserves this contract. That being said.....the best qb in the league should be able to win games with average wr's. There is absolutely no reason he needs 14, 12 and 12 million dollar wr's to make this offense work. Cobb and Jordy both need to go and the $$ needs to be spent on nasty, fast and elite defensive players.

 

[swhitset]

I think I need a break from this forum..... I'm happy with this signing btw.

 

[Jed12]

So there are 22 elite WRs in the league?

The attitude seems to be don’t pay anyone that is quite clearly a top talent.... worked out well with Hyde and Hayward...

When Adams turns out multiple 1000 yard 10+ TD seasons you will see why he has been paid the money. For the record the deal is like the 5th highest in the league and considering every new deal is set as the benchmark I think it’s a good deal for a young and talented receiver.

For the record Gronk and Edelman have all been paid the big bucks a few years ago but NE have a pretty good way to restructure “team friendly deals” to keep there guys around. Them 2 are unique as they don’t seem to chase the highest dollar they just want to play for the same team. You have to take injuries into consideration as both of them are continually injured

 

[Zartan]

Jordy still has a place. Its when Rodgers went down Hundley had no Chemistry with him.

 

[Mondio]

Problem is we've seen Rodgers not be able to make every receiver look great. Hell he struggled when Adams got thrust into a #1 role before he was ready just 2 years ago.

One of the biggest myths right now is Rodgers will make mediocre receivers look good/great even though we've seen that's not so much the case.

I love Rodgers but he needs talented pass catchers as much as any QB

I don't know why it's so hard to understand the equation? If Rodgers has nobody that can really catch the ball, who's going to catch his pin point passes? If a receiver is really good at setting up defenders and can create a bit of space and run well after the throw, but nobody can get him the ball, does that mean he's a bad receiver? They need each other, they aren't mutually exclusive.

It's not a bad thing to need to be paired with a complimentary QB or WR's or Oline, it really isn't. Because a QB can't do it all by himself doesn't mean he's less great.

When Adams was going thru his injury hampered season and it got in his head, that was his turning point. Said if he worked thru it, despite all that was against him and that were against him at that point, it would show his character. Well he did it, i'm proud of the young man. Can't wait to see him back on the field next year. I don't even care if they cut or restructure other WR contracts or not at this point.

 

[Jed12]

I think the gems you can find in the lower rounds will naturally push Cobb and even Nelson aside (if he doesn’t retire before) and Rodgers has probably been the best in the league in making average receivers look good. Adams is coming into his own and the two of them will be lethal next season