Comparing the stats of Rodgers and Love first game as Starter

[Zartan]

Rodgers first game as starter was against the Vikings 18/22 Comp, 178 Yds, 1TD 0 INT.

Love against the Bears 15/27 Comp, 245 Yds, 3 TDS 0 INT.

Very comparable starts I would like to see Love improve a bit on his completion rate. But overall he did very well in a very hostile environment compared to Rodgers when he was at home in his first start.

 

[tynimiller]

Rodgers first game as starter was against the Vikings 18/22 Comp, 178 Yds, 1TD 0 INT.

Love against the Bears 15/27 Comp, 245 Yds, 3 TDS 0 INT.

Very comparable starts I would like to see Love improve a bit on his completion rate. But overall he did very well in a very hostile environment compared to Rodgers when he was at home in his first start.

Aaron completed over 80% of his passes, Love 55.6%.
Rodgers 35 yards rushing and a TD vs Love 12 yards.
Rodgers also wasn't sacked at all, Love once.

He did very good, and despite his low completion percentage (or lower than we want to see) I loved his decision making.

 

[PikeBadger]

Aaron completed over 80% of his passes, Love 55.6%.
Rodgers 35 yards rushing and a TD vs Love 12 yards.
Rodgers also wasn't sacked at all, Love once.

He did very good, and despite his low completion percentage (or lower than we want to see) I loved his decision making.

He worked seamlessly within LaFleur's offense. Love's passing accuracy wasn't consistently perfect but he moved the offense well which is all important to me. I don't know what the points per possession numbers look like but it seemed to me to be pretty good compared to the rest of the league.

 

[tynimiller]

He worked seamlessly within LaFleur's offense. Love's passing accuracy wasn't consistently perfect but he moved the offense well which is all important to me. I don't know what the points per possession numbers look like but it seemed to me to be pretty good compared to the rest of the league.

Love settled in amazingly well and his second half was special...shoot the kid went 8 of 10 on 3rd or 4th down plays....that is going to win games.

 

[ClutchLove]

I believe Love will win 2+ Super Bowls... he has improved DRAMATICALLY... I mean talk about a different player completely

Love also appears to have the "clutch" gene that Brett and Aaron both lacked... time will tell, we will see

 

[ClutchLove]

Love settled in amazingly well and his second half was special...shoot the kid went 8 of 10 on 3rd or 4th down plays....that is going to win games.

It's all about that *clutch* factor. Aaron and Brett really didn't have it anymore later in their careers

We will see if Love has it and can sustain it

 

[milani]

Aaron completed over 80% of his passes, Love 55.6%.
Rodgers 35 yards rushing and a TD vs Love 12 yards.
Rodgers also wasn't sacked at all, Love once.

He did very good, and despite his low completion percentage (or lower than we want to see) I loved his decision making.

Love took over a team that was 8-9 the previous year. Rodgers took over a team that was 13-3 and one play away from the SB. Let us see how it plays out.

 

[ClutchLove]

Love took over a team that was 8-9 the previous year. Rodgers took over a team that was 13-3 and one play away from the SB. Let us see how it plays out.

I think more importantly is... what can Jordan do with the supporting cast compared to Aaron.

2008 Packers receivers
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
James Jones
Jordy
Etc

*DD and Jennings were already pretty good and established players at that point in their careers

Today:
A bunch of unknowns lol

 

[milani]

I think more importantly is... what can Jordan do with the supporting cast compared to Aaron.

2008 Packers receivers
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
James Jones
Jordy
Etc

*DD and Jennings were already pretty good and established players at that point in their careers

Today:
A bunch of unknowns lol

Now if Captain were here he would feed us a line that the 2008 offense did its job but that the defense did not. There is some truth to that but not altogether. You can also add that Finley was a rookie in 2008 but was not used much and did not play well. The 2008 team found ways to lose games. 2 of their wins came by struggling to beat the 0-16 Lions. The Packers lost games in crunch time to Jacksonville, Carolina, Houston, Tennessee, Minnesota, and the Bears. One play in each was the difference between winning and losing. One obvious characteristic was that the team did not have the same mental toughness it had under Favre. At least not yet. Sometimes a QB has to make believers out of his teammates. By 2009 into 2010 that did change.

 

[ClutchLove]

Now if Captain were here he would feed us a line that the 2008 offense did its job but that the defense did not. There is some truth to that but not altogether. You can also add that Finley was a rookie in 2008 but was not used much and did not play well. The 2008 team found ways to lose games. 2 of their wins came by struggling to beat the 0-16 Lions. The Packers lost games in crunch time to Jacksonville, Carolina, Houston, Tennessee, Minnesota, and the Bears. One play in each was the difference between winning and losing. One obvious characteristic was that the team did not have the same mental toughness it had under Favre. At least not yet. Sometimes a QB has to make believers out of his teammates. By 2009 into 2010 that did change.

I mean Aaron progressed nicely, and was pretty clutch IMO through our SB win...and eventually he just lost it

I wouldn't compare Finley to Musgrave and Kraft ... they are/were all high potential picks at TE

TE is probably one of the biggest crapshoot positions... look at Kelce, Gates, Graham, etc all 3rd round or later picks

Lately, Pitts, Hockenson, Fant - all 1st round picks, nothing really special so far

Just easier to judge by the WRs

 

[sschind]

Now if Captain were here he would feed us a line that the 2008 offense did its job but that the defense did not. There is some truth to that but not altogether. You can also add that Finley was a rookie in 2008 but was not used much and did not play well. The 2008 team found ways to lose games. 2 of their wins came by struggling to beat the 0-16 Lions. The Packers lost games in crunch time to Jacksonville, Carolina, Houston, Tennessee, Minnesota, and the Bears. One play in each was the difference between winning and losing. One obvious characteristic was that the team did not have the same mental toughness it had under Favre. At least not yet. Sometimes a QB has to make believers out of his teammates. By 2009 into 2010 that did change.

Captain is not here. I didn't always agree with him or his style but the man knew his football and this forum is less without him. If we want to know what he would say why was he banned in the first place. I don't agree with his being banned but apparently I am in the very small minority on that so how about since he is gone we stop bringing him up. Otherwise just invite him back.


Sorry but it just that people wanted him gone and now that he is people keep bringing him up. I propose that the next person to mention or allude to him be given a time out for a week. And that includes mods.

 

[El Guapo]

Let's get real about the WRs. Rodgers made most of these guys who they were. They obviously had talent. Everybody does when they come into this league, but Rodgers made them better. That's what good players do. They make everyone around them better.

Kirk Cousins doesn't make anyone around him better. He's a leach. He does better if he has good players around him. I suspect that we won't really know until next season or even 2025, but we'll need to see if Jordan Love makes his teammates at the WR position better.

 

[Schultz]

Captain is not here. I didn't always agree with him or his style but the man knew his football and this forum is less without him. If we want to know what he would say why was he banned in the first place. I don't agree with his being banned but apparently I am in the very small minority on that so how about since he is gone we stop bringing him up. Otherwise just invite him back.


Sorry but it just that people wanted him gone and now that he is people keep bringing him up. I propose that the next person to mention or allude to him be given a time out for a week. And that includes mods.

I have noticed this also. There is also a small group who just can't seem to make a comment about Love without including something negative about Rodgers. AR & the Capt. two guys that many posters seem to be happy are gone, yet they can't stop talking about them. LMAO.

 

[OldSchool101]

Captain is not here.

I propose that the next person to mention or allude to him be given a time out for a week. And that includes mods.

Ummm. Let me get this straight. You didn’t want him banned for being relatively disruptive and disrespectful, but if anyone merely mentions his name out of respect or admiration (like you just did and the person you replied to did) they should all be banned? I’m sorry that doesn’t make a lick of sense right there.

I vote we just don’t get offended with every last little detail and give one another the common courtesy of benefit of the doubt. Plus nobody needs to be punished we’re all guilty of being ****** at one time or another.

I’m hoping either Watson or Doubs plays as wouldn't it be wonderful for Love to continue on his productivity roll? This should be slightly tighter competition this week. Love,
3TD, 1INT
228 passing
101% Passer
61.5% comp

 

[ClutchLove]

Let's get real about the WRs. Rodgers made most of these guys who they were. They obviously had talent. Everybody does when they come into this league, but Rodgers made them better. That's what good players do. They make everyone around them better.

Kirk Cousins doesn't make anyone around him better. He's a leach. He does better if he has good players around him. I suspect that we won't really know until next season or even 2025, but we'll need to see if Jordan Love makes his teammates at the WR position better.

Not Jennings and Driver... they were already good players. Greg had 2 decent years in MN later in his career as well, I would say he was pretty good honestly.

Jordy and his progress, Jones, guys like Boykins, Allison, etc sure LOL

 

[longtimefan]

6 or 7 tds for Love?

4 for Rodgers?

 

[longtimefan]

Shocker

Packers don't go 17 and 0

 

[Magooch]

Circling back to this a bit.

After five games into their first season as the starter, both Rodgers and Love were 2-3 overall.

WEEK ONE:

Rodgers vs Vikings (24-19, W) 18 completions, 22 attempts, 81.82%. 178 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 115.5 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Bears (38-20, W) 15 completions, 27 attempts, 55.6%. 245 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 123.2 passer rating

WEEK TWO:

Rodgers vs Lions (48-25, W) 24 completions, 38 attempts, 63.16%. 328 yards, 3TD, 0 INT, 117.0 passer rating

Love vs Falcons (24-25, L) 14 completions, 25 attempts, 56%. 151 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 113.5 passer rating

WEEK THREE:

Rodgers vs Cowboys (16-27, L) 22 completions, 39 attempts, 56.41%. 290 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 80.1 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Saints (18-17, W) 22 completions, 44 attempts, 50%. 259 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 66.4 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FOUR:

Rodgers vs Buccaneers (21-30, L) 14 completions, 27 attempts, 51.85%. 165 yards, 2TD, 3 INT, 55.9 passer rating

Love vs Lions (20-34, L) 23 completions, 36 attempts, 63.9%. 246 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 69.9 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FIVE:

Rodgers vs Falcons (24-27, L) 25 completions, 37 attempts, 67.57%. 313 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 109.4 passer rating

Love vs Raiders (13-17, L) 16 completions, 30 attempts, 53.3%. 182 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT, 32.2 passer rating.

TOTALS:
Rodgers through first five games: 103 completions, 163 attempts, 64%. 1274 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 2 rush TD

Love through first five games: 90 completions, 162 attempts, 56%. 1083 yards, 8 TD, 6 INT, 2 rush TD

Now I don’t say all that to try and diss Love, but perhaps at least it might be time to pump the breaks on some of the hype. I’m still hoping for the best, nothing against Love at all, but we might’ve got ahead of ourselves after that big week 1 performance.

 

[longtimefan]

Circling back to this a bit.

After five games into their first season as the starter, both Rodgers and Love were 2-3 overall.

WEEK ONE:

Rodgers vs Vikings (24-19, W) 18 completions, 22 attempts, 81.82%. 178 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 115.5 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Bears (38-20, W) 15 completions, 27 attempts, 55.6%. 245 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 123.2 passer rating

WEEK TWO:

Rodgers vs Lions (48-25, W) 24 completions, 38 attempts, 63.16%. 328 yards, 3TD, 0 INT, 117.0 passer rating

Love vs Falcons (24-25, L) 14 completions, 25 attempts, 56%. 151 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 113.5 passer rating

WEEK THREE:

Rodgers vs Cowboys (16-27, L) 22 completions, 39 attempts, 56.41%. 290 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 80.1 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Saints (18-17, W) 22 completions, 44 attempts, 50%. 259 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 66.4 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FOUR:

Rodgers vs Buccaneers (21-30, L) 14 completions, 27 attempts, 51.85%. 165 yards, 2TD, 3 INT, 55.9 passer rating

Love vs Lions (20-34, L) 23 completions, 36 attempts, 63.9%. 246 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 69.9 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FIVE:

Rodgers vs Falcons (24-27, L) 25 completions, 37 attempts, 67.57%. 313 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 109.4 passer rating

Love vs Raiders (13-17, L) 16 completions, 30 attempts, 53.3%. 182 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT, 32.2 passer rating.

TOTALS:
Rodgers through first five games: 103 completions, 163 attempts, 64%. 1274 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 2 rush TD

Love through first five games: 90 completions, 162 attempts, 56%. 1083 yards, 8 TD, 6 INT, 2 rush TD

Now I don’t say all that to try and diss Love, but perhaps at least it might be time to pump the breaks on some of the hype. I’m still hoping for the best, nothing against Love at all, but we might’ve got ahead of ourselves after that big week 1 performance.

Can Love get the nfc championship game starters like Rodgers did?

can’t just compare the two and expect same results

how long have we heard. Rodgers needs more weapons that’s why offense sucks

now it’s all loves fault

 

[tynimiller]

@Magooch and @longtimefan

Both can be true and I think are. Rodgers had a much better constructed team walking in than Love is even close to....BUT truthfully I'm not shocked in the game stats (as hard to compare as it is) between the two and their initial starts. Honestly, I'd have probably bet it would be worse given the young TEs and WRs...but factor in if you'd told me Jones would have barely played this year - I'd have said we may be winless at this stage.

 

[milani]

Circling back to this a bit.

After five games into their first season as the starter, both Rodgers and Love were 2-3 overall.

WEEK ONE:

Rodgers vs Vikings (24-19, W) 18 completions, 22 attempts, 81.82%. 178 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 115.5 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Bears (38-20, W) 15 completions, 27 attempts, 55.6%. 245 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 123.2 passer rating

WEEK TWO:

Rodgers vs Lions (48-25, W) 24 completions, 38 attempts, 63.16%. 328 yards, 3TD, 0 INT, 117.0 passer rating

Love vs Falcons (24-25, L) 14 completions, 25 attempts, 56%. 151 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 113.5 passer rating

WEEK THREE:

Rodgers vs Cowboys (16-27, L) 22 completions, 39 attempts, 56.41%. 290 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 80.1 passer rating (1 rush TD)

Love vs Saints (18-17, W) 22 completions, 44 attempts, 50%. 259 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 66.4 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FOUR:

Rodgers vs Buccaneers (21-30, L) 14 completions, 27 attempts, 51.85%. 165 yards, 2TD, 3 INT, 55.9 passer rating

Love vs Lions (20-34, L) 23 completions, 36 attempts, 63.9%. 246 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 69.9 passer rating (1 rush TD)

WEEK FIVE:

Rodgers vs Falcons (24-27, L) 25 completions, 37 attempts, 67.57%. 313 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 109.4 passer rating

Love vs Raiders (13-17, L) 16 completions, 30 attempts, 53.3%. 182 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT, 32.2 passer rating.

TOTALS:
Rodgers through first five games: 103 completions, 163 attempts, 64%. 1274 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 2 rush TD

Love through first five games: 90 completions, 162 attempts, 56%. 1083 yards, 8 TD, 6 INT, 2 rush TD

Now I don’t say all that to try and diss Love, but perhaps at least it might be time to pump the breaks on some of the hype. I’m still hoping for the best, nothing against Love at all, but we might’ve got ahead of ourselves after that big week 1 performance.

I agree. And I still say Rodgers had a much more talented group with a little more experience on both sides of the ball. He had Driver, Jennings, Jones, Donald Lee, and Ryan Grant as well as Clifton and Tauscher on the O Line. Charles Woodson was playing defense for us with Nick Collins. McCarthy appeared to have as much trouble adjusting to the non-Favre team as MLF is with the non-Rodgers team.

 

[rmontro]

TOTALS:
Rodgers through first five games: 103 completions, 163 attempts, 64%. 1274 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 2 rush TD

Love through first five games: 90 completions, 162 attempts, 56%. 1083 yards, 8 TD, 6 INT, 2 rush TD

Now I don’t say all that to try and diss Love, but perhaps at least it might be time to pump the breaks on some of the hype. I’m still hoping for the best, nothing against Love at all, but we might’ve got ahead of ourselves after that big week 1 performance.

What am I missing here? Those stats don't look that far apart to me. Sure, Rodgers' are better, as you would expect since he's a surefire HOFer and had better players. But they don't look all that different, really.

 

[OldSchool101]

What am I missing here? Those stats don't look that far apart to me. Sure, Rodgers' are better, as you would expect since he's a surefire HOFer and had better players. But they don't look all that different, really.

I second this. Rodgers was a consensus top 10 selection that fell to #22? Really by mistake.
Love was always more of a gamble. But consensus was a later Day 1 area. It’s an area that is actually relatively cheap for a stab at franchise QB, but it’s also an area that comes with increased risk of a miss.

I say this because we are comparing Love to arguable not just one of the top QB’s today, but top in NFL history

Rodgers never had a less experienced group across 15 seasons. Thus you’d have to use Rodgers worst statistical season and then round it down some for the inexperience around him.

Look what Rodgers comp% was with a lesser group of receivers when Jordy went down (2015) 60.7% which was a career low for a 3-time All Pro QB. I’d expect James Jones (9th season) Randall Cobb (5th season) and Davante (2nd season) to outperform our current group. Our 2015 OL had 21 total seasons accrued. Our 2023 OL has 9 seasons
It’s just a more raw Offensive roster

We need to give Love a FULL season+. If he improves at all this season he’s going to get another year. He’s shown to me already that if he plays a little more consistent he’s a league average QB.

I’ll agree with Aaron Rodgers on this. Love is going to be a good QB, but it takes a minute.

 

[Schultz]

It's all Apples to Oranges. Were Rodgers 1st 5 games vs. better teams (defenses) than Love? Are the current rules more QB friendly than Rodgers 1st year as a starter. Were the coaches better then or now? Does Love drive to practice in a more comfortable car than Rodgers did?

 

[milani]

What am I missing here? Those stats don't look that far apart to me. Sure, Rodgers' are better, as you would expect since he's a surefire HOFer and had better players. But they don't look all that different, really.

I guess we could compare the opponents 15 years apart. What I hated about 2008 is that we lost to some not so good teams like Jacksonville, Houston, Carolina, and Atlanta. And at the same time we walloped Peyton and also the Bears once. MM got outcoached. A lot of the games were lost in the 4th quarter.