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I predict we nab Kyron Drones from Texas Tech in UDFA and we trade for Anthony Richardson after the draft or someone in the same trade scenario.
Can you tell us more about Kyron Drones and why you like him? Thanks.

I'd be ok with a trade for Richardson, as long as Richardson is ready to acknowledge he's a BU and not a starter (although he's a BU in Indy). That might be the harder sell. I think MLF could help a guy like Richardson become a better passer, a better QB - and so more valuable to GB in more than one way. It sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship.
 

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I really don’t think we’re nearly as bad at QB2 as some in here think. Ridder has 18 Starts and I can’t remember the last time we had a backup with that live game experience? I stopped at 26yrs and 11 primary backup QB’s and I’m exhausted looking.
Not 1 backup of those 11 QB’s across 26 years came close to Ridders 18 starts. He’s basically been a .500 level QB against Pro competition. The only QB who rivaled Ridder in athleticism in his draft class would be Malik. Malik didn’t test at combine. Had Malik and Ridder got picked any closer they’d be twins.

Ridder scored a 9.80 RAS and that was # 1 among QB’s in his Draft class and Good enough for a Day 2 selection. If We’ve got the D we need? Ridder is good enough to play .500 ball +

He’s cheap and experienced and still growing.
Good point. Gluten doesn't have to do anything with the current backup QB situation. Ridder wouldn't be asked to do much if he had to play, and he knows what it's like to play in the NFL so there would be fewer jitters.

We'd all like another Willis. The team was fortunate to have him for two years. One of Gluten's best, understated moves.
 

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I think we saw with a player like Kaepernick that it doesn't take defenses long to scheme against a QB that relies mostly on his running ability. While I agree with you that it's nice to have a QB with good wheels, I think that there can be a pitfall to it as well. If that is his best strength, it can be over-relied on and also lead to more injuries.
Good point. It doesn't take long for opponents to catch on as to what a QB can do well. Fortunately for Willis, he has a decent arm and was moving the ball with his legs and arms. A poor man's Josh Allen. We were fortunate to have him.
 

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Good point. Gluten doesn't have to do anything with the current backup QB situation. Ridder wouldn't be asked to do much if he had to play, and he knows what it's like to play in the NFL so there would be fewer jitters.

We'd all like another Willis. The team was fortunate to have him for two years. One of Gluten's best, understated moves.
I'm not sleeping on Kyle McCord, either. He was a draft pick in 2024, and we scooped him up in the off season. I think he can compete with Ridder.
 

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I'm not sleeping on Kyle McCord, either. He was a draft pick in 2024, and we scooped him up in the off season. I think he can compete with Ridder.
Thanks D, I'll watch for him in TC and PS. There certainly is precedent for a late round or undrafted pick at QB to so well. Brady was (in)famously taken in the 7th round, and Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant. Anything is possible.
 

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Now that's a guy I think we could feel confident in, if JLove misses any time.
Note that he played for Virginia Tech. Same school as Michael Vick, a decade later. Maybe those Hokie genes can get his legs cranking.
 

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Not too confident. You get a real old guy or a young untested kid. Nothing in between. The fact that he played on losing teams when he did play, does not help his stats. Obviously, he had no chance of starting when Flacco became a Raven.

We have two experienced backups vying for our #2 now with him and Ridder....both of them arguably were more productive or better than Malik was before he came here...time will tell if either can be trusted. Here's to hoping we never find out though!
 

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We have two experienced backups vying for our #2 now with him and Ridder....both of them arguably were more productive or better than Malik was before he came here...time will tell if either can be trusted. Here's to hoping we never find out though!
Nope. Ridder has been released.

 

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Nope. Ridder has been released.


Correction - we have one experienced back up vying for the QB2 role that has arguably done more in his career than Malik did in TN.... LOL. In truth I actually really think Taylor might be a perfect backup type.
 
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Correction - we have one experienced back up vying for the QB2 role that has arguably done more in his career than Malik did in TN.... LOL. In truth I actually really think Taylor might be a perfect backup type.
Interesting change. In some ways he’s similar to a more experienced Ridder. Basically that uber athletic QB with good accuracy. I do like his INT ratio is small, basically 7:3 ratio on good sample size. Some injury question marks and actually lower mileage for a 36yr old, but for a backup he’s ideal
 

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Interesting change. In some ways he’s similar to a more experienced Ridder. Basically that uber athletic QB with good accuracy. I do like his INT ratio is small, basically 7:3 ratio on good sample size. Some injury question marks and actually lower mileage for a 36yr old, but for a backup he’s ideal
Looks like he can put air under the ball going long. He does not appear to be someone who throws darts. I guess if Love was down for an extended period he can be elusive but also susceptible to injury at his age. Even Malik got hurt last year. The 34 INTs in 100 games seems Favre like. But he played on some bad teams. One thing MLF does well is dial down an offensive game plan for a back up.
 
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Looks like he can put air under the ball going long. He does not appear to be someone who throws darts. I guess if Love was down for an extended period he can be elusive but also susceptible to injury at his age. Even Malik got hurt last year. The 34 INTs in 100 games seems Favre like. But he played on some bad teams. One thing MLF does well is dial down an offensive game plan for a back up.
I agree. Only thing I lost you on was 34 INT on 100 games. Not sure what that means. If he had that he’d be better than Aaron Rodgers prime. Thats less than 6 INT per season? Although he didn’t start many games he was mop up duty.

The mark of solid performance (not great but impactful) for me is 2:1 TD:INT ratio. Favre at one point earlier in was 1:1 ratio which is not good. Favre did improve markedly though

If a guy throws 24 TD’s to 12 INT That’s efficient. Ideal but realistic is more 3:1. 30Td:10 INT. Tyrod falls in between more that 25TD to 10 INT.
 
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I agree. Only thing I lost you on was 34 INT on 100 games. Not sure what that means. If he had that he’d be better than Aaron Rodgers prime. Thats less than 6 INT per season? Although he didn’t start many games he was mop up duty.

The mark of solid performance (not great but impactful) for me is 2:1 TD:INT ratio. Favre at one point earlier in was 1:1 ratio which is not good. Favre did improve markedly though

If a guy throws 24 TD’s to 12 INT That’s efficient. Ideal but realistic is more 3:1. 30Td:10 INT. Tyrod falls in between more that 25TD to 10 INT.
Maybe I don't realize how long 100 games are. It covers a lot of seasons. The 3:1 ratio cannot be so bad when you play for bad teams as well.
 
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Correction - we have one experienced back up vying for the QB2 role that has arguably done more in his career than Malik did in TN.... LOL. In truth I actually really think Taylor might be a perfect backup type.
This is exactly the type of veteran FA signing that I was hoping the Packers would do for the QB2 position. I didn't know that Tyrod was an option but he definitely fits the mold. He has seen a lot and been in a lot of systems. I would have rather had a veteran that has won championships, but with limited options available this will do.
 

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Looks like he can put air under the ball going long. He does not appear to be someone who throws darts. I guess if Love was down for an extended period he can be elusive but also susceptible to injury at his age. Even Malik got hurt last year. The 34 INTs in 100 games seems Favre like. But he played on some bad teams. One thing MLF does well is dial down an offensive game plan for a back up.
Thanks milani. Can Taylor still run well? I remember that was a strength when he played for the Ravens, but that was a while ago.
 

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This is exactly the type of veteran FA signing that I was hoping the Packers would do for the QB2 position. I didn't know that Tyrod was an option but he definitely fits the mold. He has seen a lot and been in a lot of systems. I would have rather had a veteran that has won championships, but with limited options available this will do.

Yup. I think it was a good signing, depending of course on how much it cost the Packers. I would hope it was less than $3M for the season, with some incentives, but in this crazy NFL world, you never know.

At least for now, they can cross off "#2 QB" on their list of things to do before September.
 

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Thanks milani. Can Taylor still run well? I remember that was a strength when he played for the Ravens, but that was a while ago.
His film shows he can. But it is not recent film. I do not see him with the speed and elusiveness of Willis. However, he is not a statue of liberty. He still will take off and do better than a 10 yard sack if he can. And in GB he may see better pass protection than he has in the past. The fact that he is a veteran means he should be able to read or adjust to a blitz. And if he is in there to fill Love's spot for any time defenses will do just that. I recall Tarkenton at 36. He did not spend an hour scrambling around with D linemen. But he still would escape and take what he could get.
 

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His film shows he can. But it is not recent film. I do not see him with the speed and elusiveness of Willis. However, he is not a statue of liberty. He still will take off and do better than a 10 yard sack if he can. And in GB he may see better pass protection than he has in the past. The fact that he is a veteran means he should be able to read or adjust to a blitz. And if he is in there to fill Love's spot for any time defenses will do just that. I recall Tarkenton at 36. He did not spend an hour scrambling around with D linemen. But he still would escape and take what he could get.
Thanks for those points about Taylor milani. Sounds like a great backup for Love. Willis was one of a kind and Gluten pulled a coup to get him. Even so, BU is too important to leave to a rookie when there are alternatives like Taylor.
 
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