ALL recent another head coach options merged-- preMM firing

[Poppa San]

Like perhaps the one stickied at the top?

Merging as soon as I get off my phone to my computer.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Niether should you

"I know you are, but what am I?"

Your best work to date.

 

[Poppa San]

Also, if they have another personal from another team in mind, and that team is in the SB or play-off's.
nothing can to done until after this season's dust has settled.

I think the league changed the rules about this this off season.

 

[Dantés]

Some of you may not like it but at this point I think the two best Candidates for this Job is actually the other Harbaugh...Jim and Josh McDaniels. Dislike the two all you want but Harbaugh has won in this league and so has McDaniels. He kinda got forced out in Denver but here’s a guy who knows offense and his ability to do more with less is impressive unlike with McCarthy.

I’m actually hoping they go after McDaniels not only because he’s a TRUE offensive guy...but because where he comes from they know how to win and make the necessary ADJUSTMENTS which has been something McCarthy has been criticized about time and time again. If McDaniels is offered this job I’m almost positive he takes it unless BB plans to retire after the season. My #1 choice is Josh. His brother Ben, and my brother were close friends growing up...they actually lived down the street from us in Canton, Ohio so I know his family and dad Tom who coached my older brothers at Canton McKinley HS and won a State championship with Josh at QB. They are a football family. I’d like to see what he can do with Rodgers.

I personally think McDaniels is scum after last offseason (and it's doubly frustrating because after he backed out, my favorite option replaced him and is now off the market). That obviously doesn't bother some people too much, and that's fine. However, I want to point out that "where he comes from" has not really helped many BB coaching tree offshoots.

Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels (round 1), and Matt Patricia all had or have losing records. Bill O'Brien is the only success at this point, and it's not like he's taken the league by storm. So I'm not buying the "let's go hire some of that NE magic" argument. So far, that whopping success hasn't extended much beyond Bill.

 

[swhitset]

I know what you mean but I though all Brett fans hated Aaron?

Nope

 

[Packerlover]

No way Green Bay should be looking for another coach. McCarthy has done an outstanding job with what he's been given and with all the injuries that constantly plague this team. The offense has suffered and Rodgers is indecisive at times due to losing his QB coach, no Jordy Nelson, No Cobb, No Allison. He has only one receiver, Adams, that he's used to throwing to. I doubt ANY QB would feel comfortable given the same circumstances.

 

[Puppydog31]

"I know you are, but what am I?"

Your best work to date.

Smh

 

[Packer Brother]

No way Green Bay should be looking for another coach. McCarthy has done an outstanding job with what he's been given and with all the injuries that constantly plague this team. The offense has suffered and Rodgers is indecisive at times due to losing his QB coach, no Jordy Nelson, No Cobb, No Allison. He has only one receiver, Adams, that he's used to throwing to. I doubt ANY QB would feel comfortable given the same circumstances.

Oh hey Mike!!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't know. It's not hard to be ethical and respectful and still be very successful in life. You can even make money while being decent too

I hope you got the $50 I sent you for saying that!

 

[Puppydog31]

Oh hey Mike!!

So? Your suggestion is to get rid of Rodgers and keep mc Carthy? Oh boy...

 

[longtimefan]

Some of you may not like it but at this point I think the two best Candidates for this Job is actually the other Harbaugh...Jim and Josh McDaniels. Dislike the two all you want but Harbaugh has won in this league and so has McDaniels. He kinda got forced out in Denver but here’s a guy who knows offense and his ability to do more with less is impressive unlike with McCarthy.

I’m actually hoping they go after McDaniels not only because he’s a TRUE offensive guy...but because where he comes from they know how to win and make the necessary ADJUSTMENTS which has been something McCarthy has been criticized about time and time again. If McDaniels is offered this job I’m almost positive he takes it unless BB plans to retire after the season. My #1 choice is Josh. His brother Ben, and my brother were close friends growing up...they actually lived down the street from us in Canton, Ohio so I know his family and dad Tom who coached my older brothers at Canton McKinley HS and won a State championship with Josh at QB. They are a football family. I’d like to see what he can do with Rodgers.

Can't agree with Josh..

Denver was a flop, and there was a video tape scandal there too... Then tossing the colts aside.

While I agree with your points. But the past leaves bad taste..

As an OC sign me up.. HC, I don't 5hink so.

 

[FaninColorado]

No way Green Bay should be looking for another coach. McCarthy has done an outstanding job with what he's been given and with all the injuries that constantly plague this team. The offense has suffered and Rodgers is indecisive at times due to losing his QB coach, no Jordy Nelson, No Cobb, No Allison. He has only one receiver, Adams, that he's used to throwing to. I doubt ANY QB would feel comfortable given the same circumstances.

This would be a great response if the offense looked good from game 1 and has digressed... but that isn't the case, the offense has sucked this whole year. The problem is the offense has basically looked no better this year than last year with Hundley. The only loss from last year to this year was Jordy and basically last year he was worthless without Rodgers. Only Adams has performed both years.

I said it after the first game and got shot down... but we didn't come into the year prepared at all on offense. We basically had 10 practices and 4 pre-season games that the first team played right around 1 quarter. The O-Line was absolutely atrocious in the first half of the bear game and it cost us Rodgers not playing on 2 healthy legs until game 10 or 11. We had injuries to Allison and Cobb which required our rookies to practice with Rodgers to get on the same page, but Rodgers wasn't practicing because he was broken. So while MVS and ESB have shown flashes to the future, they have also shown the inexperience that comes with being a rookie and with not being on the same page as Rodgers that will come. MM doesn't use his players in the correct manner. Graham isn't a blocking TE at all and yet we use him to block. We bring in Lewis to block as a TE and he doesn't play much. How hard was it to actually figure out to have Lewis in the game to help out Bulaga in that first Chicago game. That one change to the scheme and help out Bulaga has Rodgers not being injured at all. That is just a simple example of why MM is beyond his expiration date and is on his way out.

We need a fresh OC and/or HC to bring in an updated offense to this stale offense that we've been watching crumble. I would be literally ecstatic with Jim Harbaugh as HC, Kliff Klinsbury as OC, and Bob Pettine continues as our DC.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Smh

Shake it harder.....

 

[swhitset]

First, let me say that I am more reluctant than most in here to directly criticize McCarthy. I just don’t agree that he is as unimaginative as people think. I’m also not convinced that his offense is as outdated as many try and claim. That being said, he is not perfect and his biggest flaw may also be his biggest strength... patience. This quality allows him to treat his players with respect when he’d probably like to attack them verbally for some of the things they do. Unfortunately a lot of fans see this as.. stupid... lazy etc... Unfortunately I think he takes it too far at times, and does not react soon enough to changes. When the Packers were a more talented team overall this approach worked well because he could rely on his players to figure it out. With this team, he cannot do that. I think it is time for another coach to go in there if for no other reason, than change might be needed across the board. That being said, I would not be surprised at all to see McCarthy succeed again with another team because I think he is a much better coach than many want to believe. Perhaps he needs a change as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

First, let me say that I am more reluctant than most in here to directly criticize McCarthy. I just don’t agree that he is as unimaginative as people think. I’m also not convinced that his offense is as outdated as many try and claim. That being said, he is not perfect and his biggest flaw may also be his biggest strength... patience. This quality allows him to treat his players with respect when he’d probably like to attack them verbally for some of the things they do. Unfortunately a lot of fans see this as.. stupid... lazy etc... Unfortunately I think he takes it too far at times, and does not react soon enough to changes. When the Packers were a more talented team overall this approach worked well because he could rely on his players to figure it out. With this team, he cannot do that. I think it is time for another coach to go in there if for no other reason, than change might be needed across the board. That being said, I would not be surprised at all to see McCarthy succeed again with another team because I think he is a much better coach than many want to believe. Perhaps he needs a change as well.

I agree with most of this It wouldn't shock me at all to see him end up in Cleveland and actually have some success.

Over the last few years I think the Packers not winning big games and not being the run away favorites every time they take the field has somehow snowballed and worsened the job that both MM and AR are doing. It's like they can't understand why they aren't winning and have lost focus of the big picture and one mistake throws them off their game. Case in point. Sunday Night, after the hand off to AJ on 3rd down left the Packers inches short of a first down, MM was undeniably pissed off at the refs for starting the play clock too early and forcing the Packers to burn a time out. OK, it happens Mike and you were probably right. But what did MM do during that entire time out? Did he strategize with coaches and AR on what play to run on what I think was the turning point of the game? No, he sat there and argued with the Ref. the entire time. Meanwhile, the offense lines up and basically runs the exact same play they ran on 3rd down, to a Defense lined up to stop it.

Negativity like that which MM and AR seem to carry around is contagious and once you start seeing it in Rodgers face, it seems to spread to the rest of the team.

I still don't understand why Joe Philbin was hired and called the "OC", clearly MM is still calling the plays. It's probably too late to untangle this mess now, but TT or Gute at some point should have stepped back and said "Mike, you are a good HC, but we need to take play calling away from you". At that point let Mike do what he does pretty well, coach and bring in a guy who can strictly focus on connecting with #12 and the Packer offense every working minute.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

FYI...…...
Regardless of what comes of this season going into 2019 and beyond , I think what this organization is guilty of is
not utilizing completely two of the best QB's that played the game when most teams would love that problem, even playing musical chairs with two during games.

No reason what-so-ever we shouldn't of won 2 -3 more Super Bowls with Britt Favre.
And now we sit by and see Rodgers taking mental and physical abuse as we again miss the play-offs and lose the division while paying him (as 1 Player) millions.

 

[swhitset]

FYI...…...
Regardless of what comes of this season going into 2019 and beyond , I think what this organization is guilty of is
not utilizing completely two of the best QB's that played the game when most teams would love that problem, even playing musical chairs with two during games.

No reason what-so-ever we shouldn't of won 2 -3 more Super Bowls with Britt Favre.
And now we sit by and see Rodgers taking mental and physical abuse as we again miss the play-offs and lose the division while paying him (as 1 Player) millions.

cry me a river for Rodgers... mental abuse really??

 

[Packer Brother]

FYI...…...
Regardless of what comes of this season going into 2019 and beyond , I think what this organization is guilty of is
not utilizing completely two of the best QB's that played the game when most teams would love that problem, even playing musical chairs with two during games.

No reason what-so-ever we shouldn't of won 2 -3 more Super Bowls with Britt Favre.
And now we sit by and see Rodgers taking mental and physical abuse as we again miss the play-offs and lose the division while paying him (as 1 Player) millions.

Had an opportunity to repeat in 97. Mike Shanahan simply took Holmgren to the woodshed and back. Outcoached in every way imaginable. Favre single handedly gave us no shot to win the postseason game in St. Louis. But I'm not sure they beat that Rams team even without any mistakes. 02 & 03 the QB & coach were atrocious. 04 the QB was atrocious. 07 the whole offense was atrocious against the Giants in the second half. Favre lost many games by himself.

Rodgers never made dumb mistakes in critical moments. But he funbled the ball away in OT in Arizona. Whole team was dreadful against Giants. Ditto 49ers game in 2012. But I think AR & MM deserve 50/50 blame for that Seattle fiasco. A) Your defense gets five turnovers. You do nothing with those turnovers. Injured or not, that's inexcusable for the best QB in the game. B) MM should've been out the door for this game alone. With Seattle trailing by two or three scores, do you not think a fake fg is on the horizon? How do you not plan for that? Why is Brad Jones & Hawk the personnel on the field? Then, you run the ball all game to try and salt the game away. One problem: you weren't going to salt the game away by running against that defense. There was too much time left. Never should've came down to a Bostick onside kick.

Thompson didn't help matters. But the QB's & coaches were dreadful in 07, 2011, 2012, & 2014. There were opportunities to get another SB. They failed. The question I have is did Thompson force Capers on MM all those years? Or, was that MM's decision?

 

[sschind]

Can't agree with Josh..

Denver was a flop, and there was a video tape scandal there too... Then tossing the colts aside.

While I agree with your points. But the past leaves bad taste..

As an OC sign me up.. HC, I don't 5hink so.

I can see this from a "some people are just not cut out to be HCs but make great coordinators" point of view but if tossing the Colts aside is a factor the guy is a jerk no matter what title he holds and why would you want him anywhere on your team.

 

[PackerFanLV]

Mcdaniels is a coordinator at best not a head coach just like MM.

 

[PackFan2]

Can we get a poll or a list of candidates going? Lol

 

[longtimefan]

Can we get a poll or a list of candidates going? Lol

Get list and we will make it

 

[Poppa San]

Can we get a poll or a list of candidates going? Lol

None of the following include coaches that would be let go to create the openings.
On Sunday morning, an unexpected name surfaced as a potential candidate for the Browns’ open head-coaching position: Condoleezza Rice, the former Secretary of State under President George W. Bush <names edited from article>
JOHN DEFILIPPO, VIKINGS OC
JOSH MCDANIELS, PATRIOTS OC
KRIS RICHARD, COWBOYS DBS COACH
ZAC TAYLOR, RAMS QBS COACH
ERIC BIENIEMY, CHIEFS OC
DAVE TOUB, CHIEFS SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR
LINCOLN RILEY, OKLAHOMA HEAD COACH
MATT RHULE, BAYLOR HEAD COACH
DENNIS ALLEN, SAINTS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
JACK DEL RIO, EX-RAIDERS COACH

The up-and-comers: Shane Waldron, Rams tight ends coach/pass game coordinator,
Titans OC Matt LaFleur
Dan Campbell, Saints assistant head coach/tight ends coach
Iowa State’s Matt Campbell


Wild cards:
Nick Saban
Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh,
Stanford’s David Shaw
Northwestern’s Pat Fitzgerald.
Bruce Arians, recently told the Canton Repository that he’d consider coming back, but only for the Browns job.
Chuck Pagano.
Steelers offensive line coach Mike Munchak
One last name: Could John Elway convince Gary Kubiak, who has been a senior personnel advisor in Denver since retiring for health reasons after Super Bowl 50, to return to the sideline?

Get list and we will make it

edited From ESPN
John DeFilippo, offensive coordinator, Minnesota Vikings.
Brian Flores, defensive coordinator, New England Patriots.
Kris Richard, defensive backs coach, Dallas Cowboys.
Dave Toub, special teams coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.
Pete Carmichael, offensive coordinator, New Orleans Saints.
Vic Fangio, defensive coordinator, Chicago Bears.
Matt Eberflus, defensive coordinator, Indianapolis Colts.
Matt LaFleur, offensive coordinator, Tennessee Titans.
George Edwards, defensive coordinator, Minnesota Vikings.

These are current head coaches who could lose their jobs but find new ones elsewhere quickly.
John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens.
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers.

These are the guys who had head-coaching jobs and could get looks again.

Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator, Philadelphia Eagles.
Jack Del Rio, former coach, Jacksonville Jaguars and Oakland Raiders.
Gus Bradley, defensive coordinator, Los Angeles Chargers.
Chuck Pagano, former coach, Indianapolis Colts.
Bob Stoops, former Oklahoma coach.
David Shaw, Stanford;
Brian Kelly, Notre Dame;
Urban Meyer, Ohio State.
Zac Taylor, quarterbacks coach, Los Angeles Rams.
Eric Bieniemy, offensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.
Mike Kafka, quarterbacks coach, Kansas City Chiefs.
Sean Ryan, quarterbacks coach, Houston Texans.
Byron Leftwich, offensive coordinator, Arizona Cardinals.
Darren Perry, former safeties coach, Green Bay Packers.
Press Taylor, quarterbacks coach, Philadelphia Eagles.
Bret Bielema, former Wisconsin and Arkansas coach.

From 247 in October
VIKINGS OC JOHN DEFILIPPO
OKLAHOMA HEAD COACH LINCOLN RILEY
PATRIOTS OC JOSH MCDANIELS
PATRIOTS LB COACH BRIAN FLORES
TITANS OC MATT LAFLEUR
IOWA STATE HEAD COACH MATT CAMPBELL
GIANTS DC JAMES BETTCHER
STANFORD HEAD COACH DAVID SHAW
MICHIGAN HEAD COACH JIM HARBAUGH
CHIEFS OC ERIC BIENIEMY
CHIEFS SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR DAVE TOUB

OTHER NAMES MENTIONED
Dolphins DC Matt Burke
Falcons DC Marquand Manuel
Vikings QB Kevin Stefanski
Vikings TE Todd Downing
Lions OC Jim Bob ******
Chiefs QB coach Mike Kafka
Jets OC Jeremy Bates
Packers WR coach David Raih
49ers QB coach Rich Scangarello
49ers run-game specialist Mike McDaniel
49ers DC Robert Saleh
Cardinals QB coach/interim head coach Byron Leftwich
Rams QB coach/TE coach/passing game coordinator Shane Waldron
Cowboys DB coach/passing game coordinator Kris Richard
Saints assistant head coach/TE coach Dan Campbell
Eagles QB coach Press Taylor

 

[rmontro]

First, let me say that I am more reluctant than most in here to directly criticize McCarthy. I just don’t agree that he is as unimaginative as people think. I’m also not convinced that his offense is as outdated as many try and claim. That being said, he is not perfect and his biggest flaw may also be his biggest strength... patience.

I like McCarthy, and I think he is a good coach. But my biggest problems with him has been
1) Hanging on to Capers too long.
2) Failing to scheme receivers open, and instead relying on them to "win their battles".
3) Waiting too long to change when things aren't working.

I don't think it's all McCarthy's fault though. TT spent most of our draft capital on the defense because of our continuing problems there, and I really believe this is one reason our offense has fallen off.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I personally think McDaniels is scum after last offseason (and it's doubly frustrating because after he backed out, my favorite option replaced him and is now off the market). That obviously doesn't bother some people too much, and that's fine. However, I want to point out that "where he comes from" has not really helped many BB coaching tree offshoots.

Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels (round 1), and Matt Patricia all had or have losing records. Bill O'Brien is the only success at this point, and it's not like he's taken the league by storm. So I'm not buying the "let's go hire some of that NE magic" argument. So far, that whopping success hasn't extended much beyond Bill.

Well put. Unlike the Ron Wolf tree, NE hasn’t spawned any real coaching talent, so looking there is looking for fool’s gold. It’s a bit of a mystery to me, but the record is what it is, terrible. Not that I have better suggestions, but there have to be others out there. I’d be very surprised if Murphy and Gluten don’t already have a list of candidates.