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A Fluff Piece On AJ Hawk

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by El Guapo, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. El Guapo

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    People often hate him, but a good sympathetic article:

     
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  2. IluvGB

    IluvGB I <3 Packers!!!!

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    I swear i'm dyslexic....I saw the title.."A piece of fluff on A.J. Hawk" wondering what could this be about?

    Then I saw it correctly! :x3: Great article, and I didn't realize that he was coming close to breaking those
    records. I guess I'll forgive him for a bit ,..if he doesn't break his neck by losing his helmet for the rest of the season!
     
  3. yooperpackfan

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    I wonder if Hawk still uses his hyperbaric chamber that he installed in his house when he came to Green Bay (Howard).
    Perhaps that explains his extraordinary availability.
    If so, all Packer Players should be required to sleep in one and maybe the injury bug would go away.
     
  4. Dblbogey

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    Well, AJ is a good guy, always plays hard, never gets injured. If only he was bigger, stronger, and faster he'd be a great player.
     
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  5. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    I suggest acually watching the games.

    That article is spot on. Dependable, durable..... I like AJ, no beef with him what so ever.
     
  6. Royal Pain

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    Didn't realize John Anderson was the Packers all time leader in tackles. Good player on some crummy defenses.
    Never had a problem with Hawk. Like Oshkosh mentioned, there's something to be said for a player that you can count on showing up every week. He doesn't make a lot of big plays, but he's assignment sure and always plays with maximum effort. I really thought he and Desmond Bishop complimented each other and would form a solid ILB combo before Bishop suffered that serious leg injury.
    Many Packer fans felt he hasn't lived up to his draft position and we should have taken Vernon Davis. However, Davis stated he didn't want the Packers to draft him and, while he's very talented, he's also been an occasional headache for the 49er's. I don't think he would have lasted long in Green Bay.
     
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    Trivia question: Who is faster, bigger, and stronger between Hawk and CM3?
     
  8. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    AJ is

    To me, CM3 has lost a step so to speak. He does not seem to be "man handleing" guys like he used to or being able to impose his will on blockers. He also looks a step slower. I know he was out with an injury, but even before that he was not as effective as years past. My wife is a big CM3 fan (wonder why,huh?) and she even says he looks smaller, muscle wise, than he did years past. He does cause some disruption, but he is not hitting home like he used to and QB's are eluding him easily this year, where as in the past he could never miss a sack once he was past the blocker. Maybe he didn't juice up in the off season this past year...lol....Im gunna catch some crap for that, but I think he does juice up.
     
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  9. El Guapo

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    Calvin Johnson
     
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  10. El Guapo

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    What if we just changed the names around....
    While I'm still happy that we chose Hawk over Davis, I don't think that Vernon's stated rebuff of Green Bay is noteworthy. Ask the question of every Packer player and I'd bet that most didn't want to come here originally. Woodson didn't want to come here either, but it was his only option. Vernon Davis may have had the same experience. Remember that we are talking about 22-26 year old males that are going to get paid wherever they play. Most want warm weather, girls in bikinis on boats, making it rain in strip clubs, etc. Moving to the hamlet of Green Bay isn't preferred unless they are real football fans. They grow to love Green Bay as they mature and learn what's important in life.
     
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  11. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    That is true, 100%. Most of the "thugs" don't like a small town city with no action, but it helps keep people out of trouble.
     
  12. easyk83

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    Not just thugs, give a red blooded young man a pile of money and Green Bay is the last place he'll want to be. Better to be in Miami or Cali, places known for hot women. Once they learn that they can rent in GB and then go back to wherever in the Off Season then GB doesn't seem so bad.

    Edit: I had a Marine client once and I recall him discussing the differences between the hot bikini clad women one might meet while stationed at Kaneoeh Bay versus the women folk inhabiting the area around 29 palms. I believe he used the term Desert Yettis for the later.
     
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    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    Im a red blooded man, not young.... and I understand things like cost of living and taxes. I would much rather buy a home in GB vs down in Miami. More house for the money = more money in your pocket. If you have that much cash, the girls are gunna be around, you can bet on that. You just wont get that strip to crusie your lambo on, or the multitude of thug clubs to get into trouble in. Then again, if I really wanted to show off my bling, I would turn one level of my home into a club and import a bunch of hot A$$ to get with.....But I guess I am not as smart as all these college educated big money thugs.
     
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    The problem I had with what Davis said is that it was said after the draft and, as far as I'm concerned, completely unnecessary. Woodson still had a choice and he chose to come to Green Bay. I think he had a lower offer from Tampa and could have gone there if weather and hot women were a factor. Back to Davis, I wonder if he ever considers "what might have been" as far as having a chance to play with Rodgers when you consider the 49er's QB play early in his career.
     
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    But there you go, you're an old geezer ;-). To a lot of young men, with some extra cash, Miami is going to be a much more attractive locale. Who cares in the rent and home prices are insane, you can just earn more money amirite.
     
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    Take it from a formerly young thug with plenty of cash - Miami is not what it is cracked up to be. I made a fortune running numbers at the horse pull at the county fair. Took my wad to blow it cruising for chicks on Miami Beach. I lasted a day! First off my buggy wheels were not meant for the beach and my horse exhausted from the ordeal of pulling the buggy. The tow, fine for my horse pooping on the beach, vet bills for near heat stroke of my horse, my $380 was gone like that. Went home the next day - never did meet a chick.
     
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  17. Oshkoshpackfan

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    Might want to try Miami, Ohio next time.... might suit the Amish life style better. lol
     
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    Re-reading the Hawk article, a question popped into my head and spawned some research. The biggest knock on Hawk is lack of big plays namely TFL, INTs, and fumbles. I don't have data on tackles for loss, but looked up the others two. In the pre-Hawk era back to the start of Ron Wolf's tenure, the Packers averaged 19 INTs and 15 fumbles per season for an annual turnover average of 33. During the Hawk era, the Packers have averaged 24 INTs and 13 fumbles per season for an annual turnover average of 37.

    Certainly there are a lot of factors that go into turnovers, but one could make the argument that consistent play and trust between DBs and the Mike leads to more team turnovers. Something to ponder that can never be proven one way or the other.
     
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