2017 Combine - Schedule, Observations, Wish-list Candidates

[Pkrjones]

Participants of the 2017 Combine are slated to begin trickling into Indianapolis today. Thought this might be a good all-encompassing thread on Combine related notes, observations, desires & wishes, etc. on future draftees and UDFA's.

Schedule - http://www.nflcombine.net/players/schedule/

 

[brandon2348]

"Desires and Wishes" would be Haason Red****.

 

[PackerJoe]

A pre-combine workout five-round value board I assembled from compiling various top prospect lists.

QB:

1. Mitch Trubisky/North Carolina – mid first

2. Deshaun Watson/Clemson – late first

3. DeShone Kizer/Notre Dame – early second

4. Patrick Mahomes/Texas Tech – mid second

5. Brad Kaaya/Miami, Fl – early third

6. Nathan Peterman/Pittsburgh – mid third

7. Davis Webb/California – mid fourth

8. Chad Kelly/Mississippi – mid fifth

9. Joshua Dobbs/Tennessee – late fifth

RB:

1. Dalvin Cook/Florida State – early first

2. Leonard Fournette/Louisiana State – early first

3. Christian McCaffrey/Stanford – late first

4. Alvin Kamara/Tennessee – mid second

5. Joe Mixon/Oklahoma – early third

6. D’Onta Foreman/Texas – late third

7. Marlon Mack/South Florida – late third

8. Samaje Perine/Oklahoma – early fourth

9. Jeremy McNichols/Boise State – mid fourth

10. Wayne Gallman/Clemson – mid fourth

11. Kareem Hunt/Toledo – late fourth

12. Tarik Cohen/North Carolina A&T – late fifth

13. Corey Clement/Wisconsin – late fifth

14. Brian Hill/Wyoming – late fifth

WR:

1. Mike Williams/Clemson – early first

2. Corey Davis/Western Michigan – mid first

3. John Ross/Washington – late first

4. Dede Westbrook/Oklahoma – mid second

5. Curtis Samuel/Ohio State – mid second

6. Cooper Kupp/Eastern Washington – late second

7. JuJu Smith-Schuster/Southern California - late second

8. Isaiah Ford/Virginia Tech – early third

9. Zay Jones/East Carolina – mid third

10. Amara Darboh/Michigan – mid third

11. Malachi Dupre/Louisiana State – mid third

12. Chad Hansen/California – mid third

13. Josh Reynolds/Texas A&M – early fourth

14. Taywan Taylor/Western Kentucky – mid fourth

15. Artavis Scott/Clemson – mid fourth

16. Noah Brown/Ohio State – mid fourth

17. ArDarius Stewart/Alabama – mid fourth

18. Travin Dural/Louisiana State – late fourth

19. Chris Godwin/Penn State – late fourth

20. Carlos Henderson/Louisiana Tech – late fourth

21. Mack Hollins/North Carolina – mid fifth

22. Jalen Robinette/Air Force – mid fifth

23. Travis Rudolph/Florida State – late fifth

24. Jehu Chesson/Michigan – late fifth

TE:

1. O.J. Howard/Alabama – early first

2. David Njoku/Miami, Fl – late first

3. Bucky Hodges/Virginia Tech – mid second

4. Evan Engram/Mississippi – mid second

5. Gerald Everett/South Alabama – late second

6. Jake Butt/Michigan – mid third

7. Jordan Leggett/Clemson – late third

8. Adam Shaheen/Ashland – late third

9. Jeremy Sprinkle/Arkansas – early fourth

10. Michael Roberts/Toledo – mid fifth

11. Jonnu Smith/Florida International – late fifth

OT:

1. Ryan Ramczyk/Wisconsin – mid first

2. Cam Robinson/Alabama – late first

3. Garett Boles/Utah – late first

4. Roderick Johnson/Florida State – early third

5. Taylor Moton/Western Michigan – early third

6. Antonio Garcia/Troy – mid third

7. Adam Bisnowaty/Pittsburgh – early fourth

8. Will Holden/Vanderbilt – early fourth

9. Chad Wheeler/Southern California – mid fourth

10. J.J. Dielman/Utah – late fourth

11. Julien Davenport/Bucknell – early fifth

12. Erik Magnuson/Michigan – mid fifth

13. Avery Gennesy/Texas A&M – mid fifth

14. Dan Skipper/Arkansas – late fifth

OG:

1. Forrest Lamp/Western Kentucky – early second

2. Dan Feeney/Indiana – early second

3. Dorian Johnson/Pittsburgh – mid second

4. Dion Dawkins/Temple – late second

5. Nico Siragusa/San Diego State – late third

6. Zach Banner/Southern California – late third

7. Isaac Asiata/Utah – mid fourth

8. David Sharpe/Florida – late fourth

9. Danny Isidora/Miami, Fl – early fifth

10. Damien Mama/Southern California – early fifth

11. Jessamen Dunker/Tennessee State – mid fifth

C:

1. Pat Elflein/Ohio State – early third

2. Ethan Pocic/Louisiana State – early third

3. Tyler Orlosky/West Virginia – late third

4. Kyle Fuller/Baylor – mid fifth

DE:

1. Myles Garrett/Texas A&M – early first

2. Solomon Thomas/Stanford – early first

3. Derek Barnett/Tennessee – mid first

4. Taco Charlton/Michigan – mid first

5. Charles Harris/Missouri – early second

6. Carl Lawson/Auburn – early second

7. DeMarcus Walker/Florida State – late second

8. Tarell Basham/Ohio – mid third

9. Jordan Willis/Kansas State – mid third

10. Tanoh Kpassagnon/Villanova – late third

11. Derek Rivers/Youngstown State – early fourth

12. Dawuane Smoot/Illinois – mid fourth

13. Daeshon Hall/Texas A&M – mid fourth

14. Keionta Davis/Tennessee-Chattanooga – late fourth

15. Avery Moss/Youngstown State – mid fifth

16. Hunter Dimick/Utah – mid fifth

17. Trey Hendrickson/Florida Atlantic – late fifth

18. Josh Carraway/Texas Christian – late fifth

DT:

1. Jonathan Allen/Alabama – early first

2. Malik McDowell/Michigan State – mid first

3. Caleb Brantley/Florida – early second

4. Chris Wormley/Michigan – early third

5. Carlos Watkins/Clemson – early third

6. Elijah Qualls/Washington – early third

7. Larry Ogunjobi/North Carolina – Charlotte – mid third

8. Montravius Adams/Auburn – mid third

9. Dalvin Tomlinson/Alabama – mid third

10. Jaleel Johnson/Iowa – late third

11. Jarron Jones/Notre Dame – early fourth

12. Eddie Vanderdoes/UCLA – early fourth

13. D.J. Jones/Mississippi – mid fourth

14. Isaac Rochell/Notre Dame – late fourth

15. Vincent Taylor/Oklahoma State – late fourth

16. Ryan Glasgow/Michigan – late fourth

17. Nazair Jones/North Carolina – early fifth

18. Charles Walker/Oklahoma – early fifth

19. Davon Godchaux/Louisiana State – early fifth

20. Tanzel Smart/Tulane – early fifth

21. Steve Tu’ikolovatu/Southern California – mid fifth

OLB:

1. Takkarist McKinley/UCLA – late first

2. Tim Williams/Alabama – late first

3. Haason Red****/Temple – late first

4. T.J. Watt/Wisconsin – early second

5. Ryan Anderson/Alabama – late second

6. Alex Anzalone/Florida – mid third

7. Tyus Bowser/Houston – late third

8. Duke Riley/Louisiana State – early fourth

9. Elijah Lee/Kansas State – late fourth

10. Noble Nwachukwu/West Virginia – early fifth

11. Carroll Phillips/Illinois – early fifth

12. Vince Biegel/Wisconsin – early fifth

13. Ejuan Price/Pittsburgh – mid fifth

ILB:

1. Reuben Foster/Alabama – early first

2. Zach Cunningham/Vanderbilt – late first

3. Jarrad Davis/Florida – early second

4. Raekwon McMillan/Ohio State – late second

5. Anthony Walker Jr./Northwestern – late third

6. Kendell Beckwith/Louisiana State – late third

7. Connor Harris/Lindenwood – early fifth

8. Keith Kelsey/Louisville – late fifth

9. Blair Brown/Ohio – late fifth

CB:

1. Marshon Lattimore/Ohio State – early first

2. **** Tabor/Florida – mid first

3. Sidney Jones/Washington – mid first

4. Marlon Humphrey/Alabama – mid first

5. TreDavious White/Louisiana State – late first

6. Desmond King/Iowa – early second

7. Gareon Conley/Ohio State – early second

8. Quincy Wilson/Florida – mid second

9. Adoree’ Jackson/Southern California – mid second

10. Cordrea Tankersley/Clemson – mid second

11. Jourdan Lewis/Michigan – late second

12. Cameron Sutton/Tennessee – late second

13. Rasul Douglas/West Virginia – early third

14. Chidobe Awuzie/Colorado – early third

15. Kevin King/Washingon – mid third

16. Howard Wilson/Houston – mid third

17. Damontae Kazee/San Diego State – early fourth

18. Fabian Moreau/UCLA – early fourth

19. Ahkello Witherspoon/Colorado – mid fourth

20. William Likely/Maryland – early fifth

21. Marquez White/Florida State – early fifth

22. Corn Elder/Miami, Fl – late fifth

S:

1. Jamal Adams/Louisiana State – early first

2. Malik Hooker/Ohio State – early first

3. Jabrill Peppers/Michigan – mid first

4. Budda Baker/Washington – early second

5. Marcus Williams/Utah – late second

6. Obi Melifonwu/Connecticut – late second

7. Marcus Maye/Florida – early third

8. Justin Evans/Texas A&M – early third

9. John Johnson/Boston College – late third

10. Josh Harvey-Clemons/Louisville – late third

11. Eddie Jackson/Alabama – early fourth

12. Josh Jones/North Carolina State – late fourth

13. Tedric Thompson/Colorado – early fifth

14. Lorenzo Jerome/Saint Francis, Pa – mid fifth

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Interesting read by PFF on how combine athleticism translates to production on the field.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/dr...ocial&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

 

[Pkrjones]

A lot of guys with injury ??'s... including DE/OLB Takk McKinley who will be performing at the combine and then having shoulder surgery which may keep him out of training camp for whoever drafts him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...h-in-medicals-interviews-drills-measurements/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ery-on-shoulder-injury-after-2017-nfl-combine
I think he wants to "wow" with his 40 time and boost his stock (sounds like a legit plan).

1st day for each position is measurement day and only WalterFootball seems to be able to get ahold of this info. Top left allows you to pick position and see their measurements. http://walterfootball.com/combine2017RB.php

 

[Arthur Squires]

Great post. At first glance this is where I disagree
1.Kazee Late 2nd-Early 3rd
2.Biegel Mid or Late 3rd
3.Jordan Willis Late 2nd
4.Siragusa Mid 4th
5.Bisnowaty Mid 3rd
6.Hunt Mid or Late 3rd

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Leonard Fournette weighed in at 240 pounds at the combine. According to several sources restaurants around Green Bay are psyched up about the possbility of the Packers selecting him as well as re-signing Lacy.

 

[Dantés]

Samaje Perine put up 225 thirty times. I could really care less about the bench as a predictor, but just in a vacuum that's really impressive.

 

[brandon2348]

The combine is just a formality for most of these guys.

Its a tool and part of the processs but other then a few surprises things stay mostly pretty close to where everything is already at.

 

[Arthur Squires]

After seeing McCaffrey at Combine running drills and routes it makes me want him for Rodgers even more. I have a feeling the Giants are eyeing hin hard also!

 

[Dantés]

Some impressive results to me so far:

Brian Hill, RB, WYO, put up a 4.54 at 6'1" 219.

T.J. Watt, EDGE, WISC weighed in at 6'4" 252 lbs with 33.5" arms and 11" hands.

Tyus Bowser, EDGE, HOU weighed in at 6'3" 247 with 33.25" arms and 10.2" hands.

Malik McDowell, DL, MSU weighed in at 6'6" 295 lbs with 34.75" arms and 10.5" hands.

 

[brandon2348]

Some impressive results to me so far:

Brian Hill, RB, WYO, put up a 4.54 at 6'1" 219.

Hill didnt look fluid in running basic routes and catching passes. I realy like Hill's body type but see him as a 1st-2nd down back. Im not sure he wil fit into the flow of the offense.

Jamaal Murray ran similar times and meaudrables and looked much more comfortable as a reveiver.

 

[Dantés]

Hill didnt look fluid in running basic routes and catching passes. I realy like Hill's body type but see him as a 1st-2nd down back. Im not sure he wil fit into the flow of the offense.

Jamaal Murray ran similar times and meaudrables and looked much more comfortable as a reveiver.

Well an early down role is why I would want Hill. I'm assuming that Montgomery will take most passing downs.

Who is Jamaal Murray?

 

[brandon2348]

Well an early down role is why I would want Hill. I'm assuming that Montgomery will take most passing downs.

Who is Jamaal Murray?

Sorry I meant Jamaal Williams

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Marlon Mack would be the "perfect pick"

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[brandon2348]

Best two options to replace Cobb. Both mid-round to late grades as far as the experts with Henderson being the better.

Carlos Hederson, La Tech

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KD Cannon, Baylor

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[Arthur Squires]

Tj Logan made himself some money yesterday and will surprise some people when he plays in NFL. I watched Hill quite a few times and he reminded me of a young James Starks in my opinion. 5th round back I would say. Former Badger Clement dropped to a 6th rd back to me.

 

[Dantés]

This TE class is stupid.

 

[Pkrjones]

This TE class is stupid.

I hope that means big, strong, athletic & fast stupid... our future TE is in this mix, just not sure when TT will be grabbing him or who it is.
Pharaoh Brown
Jake Butt (most of '17 is a redshirt year)
Jordan Leggett
OJ Howard
Bucky Hodges
Jeremy Sprinkle
Saubert
Ornduff
all 6'-5" or bigger. I even am drawn to Adam Sheehan who runs "angry" after catching the ball.

 

[brandon2348]

Montravius Adam's been looking good.

He can really move for a big guy.

 

[brandon2348]

Haason Red**** showing why he should Packers no.1 target heading into draft.

Jordan Willis who I really like is showing up too.

Both these guys have the tape to match.

 

[Arthur Squires]

This TE class is stupid.

How so? Howard,Hodges,Engram and Butt all will be studs!

 

[Arthur Squires]

I hope that means big, strong, athletic & fast stupid... our future TE is in this mix, just not sure when TT will be grabbing him or who it is.
Pharaoh Brown
Jake Butt (most of '17 is a redshirt year)
Jordan Leggett
OJ Howard
Bucky Hodges
Jeremy Sprinkle
Saubert
Ornduff
all 6'-5" or bigger. I even am drawn to Adam Sheehan who runs "angry" after catching the ball.

Have to throw Michael Roberts from Toledo in that mix. He didn't run well at combine but watch some tape on him and you'll be impressed. I like him in the 5th round for us! But thats if we dont land.Howard,Hodges,Engram or Butt!

 

[Arthur Squires]

Haason Red**** showing why he should Packers no.1 target heading into draft.

Jordan Willis who I really like is showing up too.

Both these guys have the tape to match.

Jordan Willis is a beast! He will be the better than Red**** even though Willis gets drafted after Red****, my prediction is Willis will be 2nd-3rd best pass rusher in this class!

 

[Arthur Squires]

Hill didnt look fluid in running basic routes and catching passes. I realy like Hill's body type but see him as a 1st-2nd down back. Im not sure he wil fit into the flow of the offense.

Jamaal Murray ran similar times and meaudrables and looked much more comfortable as a reveiver.

I'd take Kareem Hunt over Brian Hill. Both may end up 4th round picks, Hill may slide to 5th.

 

[Dantés]

How so? Howard,Hodges,Engram and Butt all will be studs!

It's stupid how many good tight ends there are this year.