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I'm saying Te'O or Barrett Jones in the first. Then again I don't think either of them will be there, so maybe Ted moves back to the 2s, and picks up a 1st next year?
Te'o will probably go before we have a shot at him, but why get a younger Hawk? You haven't heard? Jones injured his knee, he might even be there for our second the way his stock plummeted. I don't see us grabbing either. Depending on how the board shakes, I wouldn't mind trading back, but there should be plenty of strong value picks at our spot or close to it.I'm saying Te'O or Barrett Jones in the first. Then again I don't think either of them will be there, so maybe Ted moves back to the 2s, and picks up a 1st next year?
Te'o will probably go before we have a shot at him, but why get a younger Hawk? You haven't heard? Jones injured his knee, he might even be there for our second the way his stock plummeted. I don't see us grabbing either. Depending on how the board shakes, I wouldn't mind trading back, but there should be plenty of strong value picks at our spot or close to it.
Absolutely. I'm practically salivating over the value picks in the middle and even a few of the late guys in this draft.Oddly enough I'm liking this option more and more depending what TT can get for our 1st round spot. Honestly while I don't feel this draft is loaded with 1st round talent worthy of the round...I do believe the middle or the meat of this draft could have high yield for a guy like TT and his draft savvy.
Absolutely. I'm practically salivating over the value picks in the middle and even a few of the late guys in this draft.
I think I don't want him playing Center. Looks MUCH better as a GuardI was reading into Wisconsin Guard Travis Frederick, he looks like a good fit for out scheme and should help our run game. There's more on him here: http://www.downattheone.com/College-Football
Thoughts? Good fit?
It's not the depth, it's the mold. Jennings and Burnett are the only guys with range and cover ability, and they're more like half range. McMillian is fast, but he's a box guy, do not like his coverage. Richardson is a low safety too. IMO we need one more guy with range, true (full) range and cover ability because if either Morgan or MD goes down we can't play 2 high Safety. I didn't like seeing Jennings this year, and unless we see some MAJOR development from the box boys, I won't like it next year either. DL is the only need IMO that trumps S. LB the starters are pretty much "set." RB and WR isn't value, TE is underrated.I doubt we take a DB in the early part of the draft. There are a lot of other greater needs. IMO, D Line is at the top of the list, although O Line could be even more of a need if Bulaga is damaged goods and/or Sherrod can't contribute. There's also a shortage of wideouts, and a better TE would be helpful also. A lot has also be said that we could use LB help - maybe on that. Compared to all of that, the quality and depth at Corner and Safety ain't too bad.
That performance was in the biggest game EDS had started to date in his young career and it was against a very good opponent. In his season ending piece, McGinn noted EDS didn't screw up a shotgun snap and "seemed to handle the mental part of the game without a hitch. Will be hard to dislodge from the lineup." He's got room for improvement but I think they've found their starting OC for the next few seasons. Saturday was an "oozer", too often on running plays Newhouse is an oozer who doesn't finish. If EDS is the antithesis of that as McGinn says, he'll be a valuable asset in the middle of the OL. As I said backups inside are needed but I hope Thompson doesn't take an interior OL in the first three rounds and I don't think he will.After a rough outing against the Vikings, Evan Dietrich-Smith finished strong. Time after time he delivered a heavy punch against the DT tandem of Justin Smith and Ray McDonald. Linemen that just try to get in the way are referred to by some scouts as "oozers." EDS is the antithesis of that. He hits hard, works extremely hard and goes after people. He also was the only lineman who didn't yield a pressure.
After watching EDS at OC for the last part of the season and through the playoffs, I'm changing my tune about the need at OC. Unfortunately even after selecting OTs in the first rounds of two consecutive drafts just two and three drafts ago, IMO LT remains the biggest need on the OL. Maybe Newhouse will improve a lot on his 42.5 pressures surrendered, maybe Sherrod will return healthy enough to start at LT, maybe Bulaga will make the switch to LT and play as he did two seasons ago. But maybe not. So here we are again with a large question mark at the most critical pass blocking spot on the OL.
But I no longer want to see an OC selected early in the draft. Here's what McGinn had to say about the performance of EDS in the playoff game vs. SF: That performance was in the biggest game EDS had started to date in his young career and it was against a very good opponent. In his season ending piece, McGinn noted EDS didn't screw up a shotgun snap and "seemed to handle the mental part of the game without a hitch. Will be hard to dislodge from the lineup." He's got room for improvement but I think they've found their starting OC for the next few seasons. Saturday was an "oozer", too often on running plays Newhouse is an oozer who doesn't finish. If EDS is the antithesis of that as McGinn says, he'll be a valuable asset in the middle of the OL. As I said backups inside are needed but I hope Thompson doesn't take an interior OL in the first three rounds and I don't think he will.
Te'o will probably go before we have a shot at him, but why get a younger Hawk? You haven't heard? Jones injured his knee, he might even be there for our second the way his stock plummeted. I don't see us grabbing either. Depending on how the board shakes, I wouldn't mind trading back, but there should be plenty of strong value picks at our spot or close to it.
Perhaps because there is a player rated higher than him on the Packers' draft board? Perhaps because they view him as being similar to Hawk? And that may be the case because they studied his game against Alabama. (I only watched two of his games this season and as I've said I'm not a "draftnic" who really studies potential draftees but he did not help himself IMO in that game.)Better question is, with the way this girlfriend fiasco shaked out with Te'O, and they he's flying down the board why WOULDN'T you draft him if he's there?
Getting a high 2nd plus another 3rd round pick making for 2 picks in both of those rounds would be just ducky.
Limiting Rounds to positions is always bad practice. Michael is a bum, no thanks. Maybe a bit high for Pugh, and a bit low for Schwenke.1st. Matt Elam S
2nd. Justin Pugh LT
3rd. Christine Michael RB
4th. Brian Schwenke C
5th. DE
5th. OLB
6th. Wr
7th. DE, DT, or OLB