With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm not sure if you meant the Packers but if they select lamar jackson after trading for kizer i would seriously start to wonder if TT was still running things or Rodgers had told the team he wasnt gonna sign an extension. The Bills definitely traded up with the intention of landing a QB. And I don't think any of the top 5 will make it to the 22nd pick. As for Jackson I initially had Calvin Ridley going to the 49ers at 9.

I don't think the Packers should spend a pick on a QB, unless they see something they really like for development in a late round. Too many needs on the team right night to have the luxury of stowing a 3rd string QB until.....whenever or if ever.

Personally, I hope Roquan Smith is our pick, but for whatever reason, just about every mock I have seen has him going to the Raiders at #10.

 

[thequick12]

I don't think the Packers should spend a pick on a QB, unless they see something they really like for development in a late round. Too many needs on the team right night to have the luxury of stowing a 3rd string QB until.....whenever or if ever.

Personally, I hope Roquan Smith is our pick, but for whatever reason, just about every mock I have seen has him going to the Raiders at #10.

I initially had derwin James going to the raiders and smith falling past the Packers. Although I really just wrote that quick to see if Edmunds might realistically be there for Green Bay. It seems to me there's a decent shot

 

[UpDownEndAround]

Edmunds and Davenport would be my 2 choices, in small part to the fact that CB and WR seem to be deep positions in this draft. Edmunds just seems like a guy who will be a stud LB in this league for a decade +, and Davenport in the mix with Wilkerson and rising players in Clark and Lowry on the DL can help a young secondary. A big part of it will be who is there when they pick, and there is likely going to be a player who they didn’t think would make it to 14 that somehow makes it there.

 

[brandon2348]

100's of posts about players that are never gonna be there at 14. None of these players have "Ruben Foster red flags" which will cause them to slide.

This is becoming "la la land"

 

[Dantés]

100's of posts about players that are never gonna be there at 14. None of these players have "Ruben Foster red flags" which will cause them to slide.

This is becoming "la la land"

If only more of us wanted to draft a 2nd rounder at #14

 

[brandon2348]

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If only more of us wanted to draft a 2nd rounder at #14

First of all thats your opinion which your entitled to. Contrary to your opinion many have Sutton as a first round grade and a no.1 reciever. Ive noticed since your "Ridley Hype Fallout" you have nowhere to go here.

Now if people want to take a step back from the 14th pick infatuation then its easy to see a scenario where we could get both Courtland Sutton(who fits the Packers offense perfectly) which fills a need and Carlton Davis (who might be the press corner in the draft) which fits a need as well.

But go ahead and continue to give yourself "blue balls" over guys that arent even gonna be there. Or talk about guys that dont fit the system or are a reach.

 

[Dantés]

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First of all thats your opinion which your entitled to. Contrary to your opinion many have Sutton as a first round grade and a no.1 reciever. Ive noticed since your "Ridley Hype Fallout" you have nowhere to go here.

Now if people want to take a step back from the 14th pick infatuation then its easy to see a scenario where we could get both Courtland Sutton(who fits the Packers offense perfectly) which fills a need and Carlton Davis (who might be the press corner in the draft) which fits a need as well.

But go ahead and continue to give yourself "blue balls" over guys that arent even gonna be there. Or talk about guys that dont fit the system or are a reach.

You really like to do this, where you talk about things that have never happened. Like I stopped liking Ridley or I change my mind every five minutes. Are you spending a lot of time day dreaming about me? Again?

I still prefer Ridley to Sutton. I don’t want either at #14. Yes, I factor the combine. We all know this.

Here’s what I know— it’s considered extremely likely that 4 QB’s, 1 RB, 1 OG, and 1 DE go in the top 14. That’s 7 guys. The next tier of players, in my mind, is Ward, Edmunds, James, Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Landry. That brings us to 13.

So basically as long as one more QB or an OT or a DT or someone random... just one player goes top 13, one of that tier falls to the Packers. I don’t find that to be all that unlikely. I just don’t know who it would be.

 

[GleefulGary]

Carlton Davis sucks.

 

[GleefulGary]

And DJ Moore is WR1.

 

[brandon2348]

Carlton Davis sucks.

Not if you want a big athletic with long arms press corner. Lots to work with as to Davis. You somehow are drawn to these little bitty guys that are fast and think there gonna hold up outside in press against NFL prototype receivers.

 

[brandon2348]

You really like to do this, where you talk about things that have never happened. Like I stopped liking Ridley or I change my mind every five minutes. Are you spending a lot of time day dreaming about me? Again?

I still prefer Ridley to Sutton. I don’t want either at #14. Yes, I factor the combine. We all know this.

Here’s what I know— it’s considered extremely likely that 4 QB’s, 1 RB, 1 OG, and 1 DE go in the top 14. That’s 7 guys. The next tier of players, in my mind, is Ward, Edmunds, James, Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Landry. That brings us to 13.

So basically as long as one more QB or an OT or a DT or someone random... just one player goes top 13, one of that tier falls to the Packers. I don’t find that to be all that unlikely. I just don’t know who it would be.

The fact that you still prefer Ridley to Sutton speaks volume. You cant admit your wrong when you are as bright as day.

Go take your 6'0 190 pound receiver who can't jump (30 inch vert, 110 broad) that has medicore strength and dream on. He doesnt even meet the Packers cutoff marks for a receiver physically. This guy wont even reach half of Doug Baldwin Status.

If anyone isn't a 1st round talent its Ridley.

 

[Dantés]

The fact that you still prefer Ridley to Sutton speaks volume. You cant admit your wrong when you are as bright as day.

Go take your 6'0 190 pound receiver who can't jump (30 inch vert, 110 broad) that has medicore strength and dream on. He doesnt even meet the Packers cutoff marks for a receiver physically. This guy wont even reach half of Doug Baldwin Status.

If anyone isn't a 1st round talent its Ridley.

Yes, Ridley does meet the physical standards that Green Bay typically targets.

I can’t admit that I’m wrong about two guys that have not been drafted or played pro football yet?

It’s cute how upset you get when people don’t like your favorite prospect.

 

[brandon2348]

Yes, Ridley does meet the physical standards that Green Bay typically targets.

I can’t admit that I’m wrong about two guys that have not been drafted or played pro football yet?

It’s cute how upset you get when people don’t like your favorite prospect.

Show me a receiver that Green Bay has drafted at his size with his combine numbers?

His size + explosion + strength = failure

I wouldnt be surprised if he dropped to day 3.

 

[Jerellh528]

100's of posts about players that are never gonna be there at 14. None of these players have "Ruben Foster red flags" which will cause them to slide.

This is becoming "la la land"

Meh, there’s only about a small handful of guys that guaranteed won’t be there at 14. The rest are fair game to talk about and we’ve all seen crazy things happen on draft day.

 

[Dantés]

Show me a receiver that Green Bay has drafted at his size with his combine numbers?

His size + explosion + strength = failure

I wouldnt be surprised if he dropped to day 3.

Here you go bud.

I totally understand that Ridley is thin and his jumps were poor. He’s also pretty fast, really quick, and a good route runner. To act like that can’t succeed in the league is ignorant.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I would be disappointed and a bit shocked if either Sutton or Ridley were the Packers pick at #14 and I think they both will be there. This draft class doesn't seem to have any WR's that scream "top talent", but it does have a large group that will be available in rounds 2-4 that could end up being just as good, if not better than those 2. For about the upteenth year in a row, the Packers need to go defense with their first pick and I will be doing a fist pump for every offensive player drafted ahead of their pick.

 

[Dantés]

I would be disappointed and a bit shocked if either Sutton or Ridley were the Packers pick at #14 and I think they both will be there. This draft class doesn't seem to have any WR's that scream "top talent", but it does have a large group that will be available in rounds 2-4 that could end up being just as good, if not better than those 2. For about the upteenth year in a row, the Packers need to go defense with their first pick and I will be doing a fist pump for every offensive player drafted ahead of their pick.

Yes, I’m much less concerned with the debate between Ridley and Sutton than I am with the desire for the Packers to draft someone other than either of them.

 

[brandon2348]

Here you go bud.

I totally understand that Ridley is thin and his jumps were poor. He’s also pretty fast, really quick, and a good route runner. To act like that can’t succeed in the league is ignorant.

Dime a dozen with his numbers. There will be UDFA opportunities with better athleticism then Ridley.

He is maxed out and if he didnt play for Bama nobody would even know who the guy is.

 

[Dantés]

Dime a dozen with his numbers. There will be UDFA opportunities with better athleticism then Ridley.

He is maxed out and if he didnt play for Bama nobody would even know who the guy is.

Somehow I doubt that. I guess we will find out.

 

[brandon2348]

Let me put in a more simple perspective for some of you guys so maybe you can understand and see the light.

Yes, we need defensive help but I really dont see anybody that will be there at 14 who is gonna magically turn the defense around and make some game changing impact. Yes, there is a hope and a prayer Derwin James will slip to us but the reality is that it isnt gonna happen. Sorry guys. We need to trust Pettine that he can get more out of what we have with the addition of Mo Wilk and get some supplemental players in day 2 that arent far off from what we could get at 14.

Our offense is our "bread and butter" and right now it goes Adams, Graham, Cobb and Allison. Sorry guys but GMO is a 4 or a 5. While I like him he is a slug and isnt gonna win too many 50/50 balls. If we would of landed or do land Jordan Matthews then we would probably be okay. If we don't that takes us to Courtland Sutton who has an all around skill set unlike any other receiver in the draft. He fits perfectly in with what we already have and all Crosby would be doing is kicking extra points because we would be virtually unstoppable in the redzone. Gotta keep the wheels on the "Ferrari" turning.

Lasty you need to understand the rule changes in the league and how it affects defenses. With the way the rules are being tilted there isnt a corner in the draft thats all the sudden is gonna come in and make some magical difference. Its all about pass rush and that has become the league wide emphasis. Ted Thompson drafted some real bums as far as DB's go. The Seahawks drafted Shaquille Griffen last year in the 3rd round who is a promising press corner. You dont need to draft them in the 1st round.

Just Score Baby!

 

[AmishMafia]

This draft class doesn't seem to have any WR's that scream "top talent", but it does have a large group that will be available in rounds 2-4 that , , ,

if Al Davis were alive today, Chark Boy would be going #10 overall.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No telling which GM may have a wild hair up his bun and go in a totally different direction. I was shocked last season when 3 WRs went top 10. I thought none deserved it with Davis being borderline. Anyway, it will be fun and exciting as this year we are not hoping for a 3rd teir player to slip to us, but should have a difference maker.

It's funny how before the combine many had an OT and Josh Jackson in the top 10. GMs may very well go back to the tape and still value their play. While I'm personally leery of the OT, Josh Jackson is still an elite player in this draft. Great ball skills and very natural coverage ability. But he runs a bad 40 and now he drops? His 40 time is right around Richard sherman's so I know running faster is not absolutely necessary to success.

 

[GleefulGary]

Not if you want a big athletic with long arms press corner. Lots to work with as to Davis. You somehow are drawn to these little bitty guys that are fast and think there gonna hold up outside in press against NFL prototype receivers.

I like to look at how a player actually plays on the field.

Davis is big, and he can press, but he's grabby. Walking PI in the NFL. And when he doesn't grab you? Big play! There's definitely athletic potential there, but he allowed a lot of big plays, plays with poor technique.

He had 6 DPI penalties this year alone. 6! Against players that he's bigger and faster than. That's bad. He's given up a lot of TD's and 20yd+ catches over the last couple years. More than a good CB should. That crappy WR with no strength, Ridley, he was getting open consistently against Davis. Weird how that works, huh?

So yes, I will take a smaller CB that is actually good at playing CB. I'm weird like that.

You're enamored with size and athleticism, which is fine. I prefer a combination, but primarily the tape.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Here's what I would consider to be a worst case scenario:

1. CLE: S. Darnold, QB, USC
2. NYG: J. Rosen, QB, UCLA
3. NYJ: J. Allen, QB, WYO
4. CLE: S. Barkley, RB, PSU
5. DEN: B. Mayfield, QB, OK
6. IND: B. Chubb, DE, NCSU
7. TB: Q. Nelson, G, ND
8. CHI: T. Edmunds, LB, VTU
9. SF: H. Landry, ED, BC
10. OAK: D. Ward, CB, OSU
11. MIA: M. Fitzpatrick, DB, UA
12. BUF: R. Smith, LB, UGA
13. WAS: D. James, S, FSU

So in this scenario, Jackson does not go top 13 and no OT's or DT's sneak up there. So all of the guys that I personally would consider "blue chip" prospects are gone. Say a trade down is not an option-- who you taking?

Josh Jackson.

Jaire Alexander.

Josh Jackson.

Marcus Davenport.

Mike McGlinchley.

Connor Williams.

I wouldn't like the Packers selecting Davenport or one of the tackles at #14 at all.

I saw the Packers are talking to Hughes and I know they are just interviewing as many guys as they think might be an option. I wonder though, Hughes has moved up steadily in the mocks, are they considering him at 14 or if they trade back? I very much doubt he will be there when the Packers are scheduled to pick in the 2nd.

Hopefully the Packers don't think about selecting Hughes at #14.

Don't get me wrong. Landry will be there at 14. He has a chance to make it to us in the 2nd. He is worth the risk in the 2nd, not the 1st.

I highly doubt Landry will drop into the second round. Based on my last experience betting with you I won't join the sig bet this time around though.

I believe the proper recourse is to run around naked, record it, send it to Wimm, and he decides who wins.

Running around naked videos pop up and suddenly everyone is all in

Whoa, whoa, whoa guys. No offense to anyone but I'm definitely not interested in seeing any of you run around naked.

Edmunds and Davenport would be my 2 choices, in small part to the fact that CB and WR seem to be deep positions in this draft. Edmunds just seems like a guy who will be a stud LB in this league for a decade +, and Davenport in the mix with Wilkerson and rising players in Clark and Lowry on the DL can help a young secondary. A big part of it will be who is there when they pick, and there is likely going to be a player who they didn’t think would make it to 14 that somehow makes it there.

I would be excited about the Packers adding Edmunds at #14 but Davenport shouldn't be an option until the second round.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Let me put in a more simple perspective for some of you guys so maybe you can understand and see the light.

Yes, we need defensive help but I really dont see anybody that will be there at 14 who is gonna magically turn the defense around and make some game changing impact. Yes, there is a hope and a prayer Derwin James will slip to us but the reality is that it isnt gonna happen. Sorry guys. We need to trust Pettine that he can get more out of what we have with the addition of Mo Wilk and get some supplemental players in day 2 that arent far off from what we could get at 14.

Our offense is our "bread and butter" and right now it goes Adams, Graham, Cobb and Allison. Sorry guys but GMO is a 4 or a 5. While I like him he is a slug and isnt gonna win too many 50/50 balls. If we would of landed or do land Jordan Matthews then we would probably be okay. If we don't that takes us to Courtland Sutton who has an all around skill set unlike any other receiver in the draft. He fits perfectly in with what we already have and all Crosby would be doing is kicking extra points because we would be virtually unstoppable in the redzone. Gotta keep the wheels on the "Ferrari" turning.

Lasty you need to understand the rule changes in the league and how it affects defenses. With the way the rules are being tilted there isnt a corner in the draft thats all the sudden is gonna come in and make some magical difference. Its all about pass rush and that has become the league wide emphasis. Ted Thompson drafted some real bums as far as DB's go. The Seahawks drafted Shaquille Griffen last year in the 3rd round who is a promising press corner. You dont need to draft them in the 1st round.

Just Score Baby!

In my opinion it's getting annoying that you consider Sutton being the best wide receiver in the draft as a fact. Don't get me wrong, it's possible he will end up being the most productive one out of this year's class but it's definitely not a given. Most experts have ranked Ridley as the #1 wide receiver even after the combine.

 

[thequick12]

Not if you want a big athletic with long arms press corner. Lots to work with as to Davis. You somehow are drawn to these little bitty guys that are fast and think there gonna hold up outside in press against NFL prototype receivers.

Yeah I don't like Davis either, much prefer holton hill if you want a big corner. And kevin king is a big corner with speed, id say thats ideal. I also agree with Janis that dj Moore is the best receiver in the draft. That being said I wouldn't want the Packers to draft him at 14 because there's gonna be impact receivers around in the 2nd, 3rd and possibly 4th round.