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VOTE: Most under-appreciated Packer

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by FrankRizzo, Feb 21, 2011.

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Most under-appreciated Packer among Packer fans (moreso than the national media)

  1. LT Chad Clifton

    10 vote(s)
    23.3%
  2. C Scott Wells

    16 vote(s)
    37.2%
  3. NT/DL Ryan Pickett

    6 vote(s)
    14.0%
  4. LB AJ Hawk

    10 vote(s)
    23.3%
  5. LG Daryn Colledge

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  1. FrankRizzo

    FrankRizzo Cheesehead

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    Pretty self-explanatory.

    Which of these guys do you feel is the most under-appreciated in terms of leading to our success without getting the accolades and recognition that he should.
     
  2. Jess

    Jess Movement!

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    Voted for Wells.

    Though I think Nick Collins could be considered. Sure, he's got Pro Bowls, and he made the big INT in the Super Bowl, but when people are talking about our secondary they ALWAYS talk about Wood and Tramon.
     
  3. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    No doubt Green Bay Packers will chime in here with a cry of "Mason Crosby!" if he's still around. LOL
     
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  4. ivo610

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    Clifton. No question imo
     
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  5. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    Down the stretch I say Jarrett Bush, no kidding. He was down at the goal line so many times to pin 'em deep. That's huge. And he came in and performed admirably in place of Wood during the SB. And I still can't stand him. But he'd get my vote for sure.
     
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  6. Powarun

    Powarun Big Bay Blues fan

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    Bush was ST captain, so I don't think he was under appreciated by all.
     
  7. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    Just by me then! lol
     
  8. fettpett

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    Wells, He's one of the smallest Centers in the game, almost lost his Job to Spitz and came back and did a much better job than Spitz did by far. Still gets dogged for his size.
     
  9. NelsonsLongCatch

    NelsonsLongCatch Cheesehead

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    I chose Pickett. Guy switched positions (NT to DE), played through injury and helped shore up the run defense. DE is a thankless position in the 3-4. He occupied space and let the linebackers roam.
     
  10. Wood Chipper

    Wood Chipper Fantasy Football Guru

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    brett favre isnt available becuz ...
     
  11. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I agree with Bush...

    When Woody and Shields went down, I looked at my wife and just said if Bush cant handle this we are done
     
  12. neilfii

    neilfii Hall of Fame Fan

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    Good question. He did as much as he possibly could to help the Pack make the SB this year.
     
  13. Croak

    Croak Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The center calls out assignment adjustments on the line of scrimmage. He has to be one sharp dude. Scott Wells, hands down.
     
  14. FrankRizzo

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    I agree.... which is why I am surprised by the early results here.... although I like the leader as well.

    As for Nick Collins, I thought the fact that he has been voted a Pro Bowl starter a few times pretty much eliminates him from being considered under-appreciated/underrated.
     
  15. FrankRizzo

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    I love Pickett and he is very very very underappreciated. In fact, I think he was jobbed again in the Super Bowl in the Mendenhall fumble. I've watched different angles of that play many times, and I think he's as responsible for causing that ball to pop out as Matthews was.... and nobody even mentions big Grease.

    I love Pickett. I've been meaning to write him some fan mail for 3 seasons... still haven't gotten around to it, shame on me. Curse me!
     
  16. packerfan4ever

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    I choose Hawk he did some good things this year,intercepted a few,it was hard to choose though.
     
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  17. Croak

    Croak Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I'll make a little more of a case for Wells. A lot of folks don't realize all that a center does. He has to study about as much film as the QB. He has to know all the blocking assignments for all the linemen on every play. So he studies his own playbook and all the line play together. He has to also have his own mechanics down. He is an all around smart guy in a blocking body.

    This is from NFL wiki which I think does a fine summary;
    "Centers play an integral part of the offensive line and act as the primary protector of the quarterback after the snap. The center is often referred to as "the smartest person on the field next to the quarterback", in the sense that the center acts as the line's "mind". Before the snap, the center is given the responsibility of assessing the likely action of the defensive team (based on his knowledge of their defensive schemes, as well as the placement and stance of players on the field) and will then often adjust the blocking assignments of all the offensive linemen and the backfield by communicating using audible and visual signals referred to as "line calls".
    On most plays, the center will snap the ball directly into the quarterback's hands. In a shotgun formation, the center snaps the ball to the quarterback lined up several yards behind him.
    After the snap, the center must block defensive players from reaching the ball carrier (on running plays) or the quarterback (on passing plays). On passing plays in particular, the center often must block blitzing defensive players."
     
  18. Poppa San

    Poppa San SB I trophy First of four Staff Member Moderator

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    You didn't have the GOODE long-snapper guy on there. I don't recall a bad punt or field goal snap in some time. Very few were off target by a even smidge. His 3 solo tackles this year were a career high.
     
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  19. Texpackerfan

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    I choose AJ Hawk. He's responsible for calling out the plays on the defense and I rarely ever hear anyone give him any accolades. He may not be flashy or get as many as sacks as Bishop or Matthews but he gets the job done. Also, he was on the verge of getting cut or traded earlier in the year. I think people have a hard time giving him credit because he never seemed to live up to his # 1 pick status.
     
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  20. JBlood

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    Hawk. Was the leading tackler on a great defense. He isn't the superstar everyone thought he would be, but has been steady and really played solidly all season, apparently with a wrist injury he's now having surgery on.
     
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  21. FrankRizzo

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    Good results.
    I just think if we lost one of these guys, Clifton would be the one that would cripple our team the most.

    Holding anchor on the left side is tough... we all remember what happened to Rodgers vs Minny the games Clifton wasn't there. It was a massacre.
     

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