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[XPack]

but there is definately a trend around here for people to go from hero to zero fairly quickly and I get tired of it. Sorry, but that's how I see it at times.

Agreed, but there's always a balance..as we saw recently with Crosby. You get knee jerk, but across a week sanity "usually" rules. But a deliberate ignoring of rules is just inexcusable...esp when it caused us a crucial loss.

 

[Dantés]

If they want to cut Montgomery for a clear rejection of coaching instruction that cost the team a chance at the win, that's fine. I understand it and would not object. It sounds like his decision was totally selfish and grounds for getting the axe.

However, after reading some of the horrible vitriol people had for Montgomery on twitter, and even coming on here and seeing him called garbage, a "********," etc., what I'm most disgusted with is how people will talk to or about a person based on a screw up in a football game. Get a grip.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Stephan A should get you fired up about cutting Monty, if you weren't already fired up

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[Cheese Headed Monster]

If they want to cut Montgomery for a clear rejection of coaching instruction that cost the team a chance at the win, that's fine. I understand it and would not object. It sounds like his decision was totally selfish and grounds for getting the axe.

However, after reading some of the horrible vitriol people had for Montgomery on twitter, and even coming on here and seeing him called garbage, a "********," etc., what I'm most disgusted with is how people will talk to or about a person based on a screw up in a football game. Get a grip.

What if he ran that back for a touchdown while disobeying coaching orders? Then what am I supposed to think/feel?!

 

[King of Jeans]

seeing him called garbage, a "********," etc., what I'm most disgusted with is how people will talk to or about a person based on a screw up in a football game. Get a grip.

If it was just a screw up in a football game, sure that would probably be a little harsh.

But all the evidence points to him blatantly disregarding direct instruction from his superiors and then costing him team a win as a result of his selfishness.

"********" isn't harsh enough.

 

[Title Town USA]

What if he ran that back for a touchdown while disobeying coaching orders? Then what am I supposed to think/feel?!

You would wake up from your dream. Montgomery ain't returning anything for touchdowns LOL.

 

[Mondio]

In an otherwise remarkably clean game, there were two other critcal mental errors in the first 58 minutes. It's pretty clear that Whitehead blew the coverage that left Gurley wide open on the 30 yard TD catch. And there was King's lack of awareness on the fake punt. Should we cut those guys? Oh, not King! But Whitehead? Who's he anyway, right?

I don't see any way in which they are related. Other than being football plays. If they pulled King off the field and said, line up closer and he said screw you, and backed up 20 yards instead. Being a 2nd year player might buy him sometime, but I would fully expect to see him yanked for a while. and Whitehead made a mistake in coverage, not even close to giving your coach and team the finger and costing a chance at an important win.

 

[Dantés]

If it was just a screw up in a football game, sure that would probably be a little harsh.

But all the evidence points to him blatantly disregarding direct instruction from his superiors and then costing him team a win as a result of his selfishness.

"********" isn't harsh enough.

The bile that people feel entitled to spew over sports failures is gross.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Reading the comments by anonymous Packers players in this story I have a hard time believing Montgomery will still be on the roster on Sunday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000980254/article/rodgers-doesnt-get-chance-at-hollywood-ending

To me, that's the biggest issue. Immaturity.

Looks to me like Monty's been hanging around Martellus Bennett too much, because that's how bad he acted about being subbed out.

This kind of action is cancerous and can rip apart the locker room. MM cannot allow it to go on.

 

[swhitset]

What if he ran that back for a touchdown while disobeying coaching orders? Then what am I supposed to think/feel?!

That we probably would have lost on a rams FG. The reason we all feel that Rodgers would have gotten it done is that he would have used up the clock and gotten us into position to get the winning score.

 

[RepStar15]

In an otherwise remarkably clean game, there were two other critcal mental errors in the first 58 minutes. It's pretty clear that Whitehead blew the coverage that left Gurley wide open on the 30 yard TD catch. And there was King's lack of awareness on the fake punt. Should we cut those guys? Oh, not King! But Whitehead? Who's he anyway, right?

Mental errors during the game is vastly different then pure stupidity. If the ball was kicked to the 1 and Ty fumbled, No one would be wanting him to be released. It’s a simple error. It was stupid to even try to return the football given the situation.

 

[Zartan]

In an otherwise remarkably clean game, there were two other critcal mental errors in the first 58 minutes. It's pretty clear that Whitehead blew the coverage that left Gurley wide open on the 30 yard TD catch. And there was King's lack of awareness on the fake punt. Should we cut those guys? Oh, not King! But Whitehead? Who's he anyway, right?

As others said before, there is a difference between getting out played on the field and going against a Direct order from coaching.

MM has to cut Monty we dont need him. We got good RBs in Jones and Williams we got a solid receiving core.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Stephan A should get you fired up about cutting Monty, if you weren't already fired up

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I have always loved his no holds barred tell it like it is approach.

 

[ARPackFan]

If this was willful disobedience on Montgomery's part then I don't see how you can not cut him as keeping him as it sends a completely wrong message to the rest of the team. It's his last year under contract and deactivating him for the remainder of the season is basically the same thing.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

That we probably would have lost on a rams FG. The reason we all feel that Rodgers would have gotten it done is that he would have used up the clock and gotten us into position to get the winning score.

We were actually down by two at that point, so a TD would have put us up by 4 minimum, possibly 6 if we go for two. So ... Rams would need a TD to win it in either case, not a FG.

 

[El Guapo]

I'm with most that intentionally disobeying the coach and thereby costing the game is a fire-able offense. If you're Crosby or Rodgers and make that mistake, you might get a pass. However, Montgomery is expendable and that's always the lesson. Remember a few years ago when Eddie Lacy and Alonzo Harris missed curfew? Lacy got "demoted" for a game and Harris was cut because he was expendable.

What I do disagree with, as Dantes pointed out, is the anger. Passion is good. Anger in this situation is unwarranted.

In watching the return, one could also fault Lucas Patrick and James Crawford for standing around and watching guys ran straight into Ty. Jamal Williams was the other part of the wedge with Patrick. He blocked two guys quite well, de-cleating the second guy. Overall I think that most people did a poor job on that return.

 

[McKnowledge]

You would have to hope either Montgomery or zook are gone depending on whose fault it actually was. Not only does that play change the game but the landscape of the NFC. If you are allowed to make a mistake of that magnitude (either person) and still have your job what's the motivation for the rest of the team?

That's not on Zook. Montgomery is a NFL veteran. His decision was selfish and costly. He should be cut or traded.

 

[Ceodore]

What if he ran that back for a touchdown while disobeying coaching orders? Then what am I supposed to think/feel?!

Honestly, I think GB would still be justified in cutting him. Ends don't justify the means. Such a low % play is still boneheaded while also giving up 2 min warning. Not to mention it would still leave LAR time to score.

Edit: although i gotta be honest, after watching the replay, he was really quite close to the goal line when he caught the ball. Think he still would have been in the endzone, but it was much closer than i remembered.

 

[Poppa San]

ty week to be debating this. NE can be beat by a pass catching RB. Game plan could have exploited that. Instead, our receiving back may be gone or at least not trusted. Either one could mean more of Cobb in the backfield. He was even worse than Monty as a run threat.
MM seems to not make knee jerk responses so he will probably give Ty another chance. I don't expect him to return kicks though. He also only had 6 offensive snaps vs the Rams. A lot of dead electrons for a bit player.

 

[GleefulGary]

If it was just a screw up in a football game, sure that would probably be a little harsh.

But all the evidence points to him blatantly disregarding direct instruction from his superiors and then costing him team a win as a result of his selfishness.

"********" isn't harsh enough.

It’s a game. For entertainment.

Whether the Packers win or lose doesn’t change your life.

Grow up.

 

[GleefulGary]

Aaron Jones has good hands. Let him catch the ball.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

I don't want to cut Ty Montgomery. I want to trade him and McCarthy to Cleveland for a towel and a jock strap to be named later.

 

[Ceodore]

MM seems to not make knee jerk responses so he will probably give Ty another chance.

Difference here though is we're potentially talking about insubordination that led to squandering any chance of winning the game. If you don't react harshly it only encourages that behavior. Big difference than just having a bad performance.

I don't think people generally have a big problem with his fumble, but more that he played the ball in general.

 

[King of Jeans]

Say I report to set tomorrow and my director tells me to shoot with a SONY FS7 with a 50 mm lens and a polarizer. After we shoot a few takes I tell him I decided to shoot everything with a Z150 using no filters or lenses and now our scene looks like garbage.

What happens next?

I get fired because I am a ********.

 

[gonzozab]

Just saw the article of what transpired on the sideline. If that's true, and I would think it is, I take back everything I said about him being a great guy and the organization should cut his *** ASAP. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to maliciously betray the team because the coach had the audacity to sit you out a play. Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if he had fumbled the ball on purpose.