TJV
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The recent losing streak has predictably brought out the Thompson haters.
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^^^ up you go ... this should almost be made a stuck thread. Good post Jack, my sentiments exactly. A small addition to your list of jabs at the kiddies and the spoiled fans, and/or the guys who should limit themselves to Fantasy Football ... you forgot the "tankers". The guys who would advocate benching Rodgers if he's medically cleared to play to either give Tolzien snaps and/or secure a better draft pick. Tankers are the worst of the lot in my book.
None of this is to say criticizing Thompson and/or McCarthy and/or anyone else in the Packers organization is wrong. I’m certainly not advocating blindly agreeing with everything done in Green Bay. !
I had posted the same sentiment about the tankers in one of the other threads and got maybe 2 people who agreed with me (not that I am all that worried about that) and was just thinking to myself "wth?" I actually had more people give me a disagree than agree when I said that if Rodgers is cleared to play, he should play and that an NFL team should NEVER play for draft position. That thread even went so far as to have one poster actually trying to tell me that the medical staff of the Green Bay Packers has NOTHING to do with clearing Rodgers to play! Again, wth? I guess the waterboy is the one that give A-Rod the go ahead right?
My point is that, in times like this all the crazies come out and unfortunately, the crazies are always the most vocal so we have to put up with a lot of this crap.
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Ever run into the stupid people who think fractures and breaks are different? Or even worse, the ones who think collar bones and clavicles are different bones?
Those people amuse me.
Yep, nobody's perfect so what is the point? He's darned good though right? Top 5?I've been pretty upfront with my thoughts on Thompson and the team. He's a good GM; he's not perfect but none are.
Life windows are too short. I've been alive awhile by anyone's standards and I've seen 4 SB Victories you don't know when the next one will come. My advice: Enjoy what you DO see. Enjoy 15-1, enjoy one of greatest QBs to ever play the game. Enjoy a new RB who trucks defenders. Quit complaining your Ferrari gets bad gas mileage and enjoy the ride Sunshine.NFL windows are too short, looking at a guy and asking "how could he improve" seems like the way to go.
That will be less and less condescending as you actually grow up Sunshine. You'll take what you perceive as a personal affront and let it ruin a beautiful post? LOL, well grow up. Honestly, it's not pointed at you though it could be.Would love to agree with the overall post but I think the "grow up" comment at the end sort of ruins the rest. Comes across a little too condescending.
Yep, nobody's perfect so what is the point? He's darned good though right? Top 5?
Life windows are too short. I've been alive awhile by anyone's standards and I've seen 4 SB Victories you don't know when the next one will come. My advice: Enjoy what you DO see. Enjoy 15-1, enjoy one of greatest QBs to ever play the game. Enjoy a new RB who trucks defenders. Quit complaining your Ferrari gets bad gas mileage and enjoy the ride Sunshine.
That will be less and less condescending as you actually grow up Sunshine. You'll take what you perceive as a personal affront and let it ruin a beautiful post? LOL, well grow up. Honestly, it's not pointed at you though it could be.
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Now this is just hilarious. Of course he had to read it to know whether or not to post on this thread and by doing so, he 'self-selected' into the group which is the object of the OP. And because he can't really rebut this post because he alleges he doesn't know what it's about!
No, not thxJackVaniesi, condescending? Elitism?But now that I have, I do now realize I could be grouped into what you are referring to, even though I think your arguments and "offered perspective" is a little dumb and the little history lesson was a little condescending and reeks of elitism.
First of all, there is always more to talk about after a loss, than a win. Which is why you see increased posting volume after a loss.
Even though a lot of it may be overreacting. There is still a resonance of concern for your team, so how can you say that isn't being a fan? Now you and others want me and others to "be thankful we aren't the Bengals or the Buccaneers or the Vikings." Give me a break, Mediocrity and failing is mediocrity and failing. Regardless of the degree.
I am glad you said this because all to often I think we see the tale of two extremes during times like this. We see those that most of your post concerns, the entitled, ungrateful fans who want it all or the blindly "in Ted & Mike we trust"crowd that truly believe there is nothing wrong in GB when all evidence points to the contrary. There are some things that need to be addressed and fixed in GB and I believe any rational fan knows this, but, I also believe any rational fan realizes that sending Thompson packing is not going to solve any of those issues.
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I will add one more nugget as to the quality of football we have gotten to watch since 1992, since that time there is not a single NFL franchise that has a higher winning percentage, more playoff appearances, or less losing seasons than Packers! There are a couple that are close, in fact the Patriots will probably pull even with us after this year.
Does that make me spoiled or entitled? I don't think so, it just means I would love to see this organization take advantage of the opportunity in front of them. We are already the greatest franchise in the history of the NFL, I would like to see us add more during the modern era to truly cement that comment as being fact.
Not sure why the desire is to step backward into some mythical panacea of FAs.
Here is where some posters go awry. 'All evidence points to the contrary' is something actually believed. They chose to ignore the SB victory; the 15-1 season; and the impressive streak of playoff appearances. The success of Thompson in his time in GB is impressive. Why suddenly, after a few losses, is the system broken? Are there issues? Yes. Is 'all evidence' pointing to something wrong? No! Not even close. The system is what it is and it has produced one of the youngest most successful franchises in the NFL.
The 'spoiled' part comes in when the expectation is for near perfection. Every season the Packers should go 15-1 and win a SB. Anything less than that produces venomous posts from certain posters directed at TT. If there was a couple franchises out there who signed 2 or 3 FAs and thus win the SB every season then I would agree, signing FAs is what we need to do. But from what I see, more teams are adapting the TT philosophy and are now experiencing more success. Not sure why the desire is to step backward into some mythical panacea of FAs.
If you don't think they are problems in Green Bay that need to be addressed, then you simply are a homer. I never said that we were not doing things well, but this team needs more if it is going to contend for another SB title, denying that is simply foolhardy.
People like you seem to choose the greatness of this team being destroyed by the lousy performances put in by our defenses. But hey, I am sure you would be fine with another playoff appearance with a quick exit because an historically bad defensive performance in the playoffs yet one again.
You are simply proving the point of my whole post, you are on the other extreme of all the doomsayers who say fire everyone. You blindly ignore the serious problems with parts of the team and say everything is fine. It is not, there are some serious issues, especially on the defensive side of the ball that need to be addressed.
And I am so beyond sick of blind homerism leading to people like myself who see and understand that the Packers are not perfect and need to get better being called spoiled. It is ridiculous. There was another thread where I talked about Ted being a great GM and pointed out the fact that the last time the Packers had Super Bowl success was a direct result of some FA moves that were made, I also said that there really has not been much available the last few years in this department.
So where is all your FA talk after quoting my post coming from?
Anaylsis of the Packers needs to go deeper than, did they win? They are good. Did they lose? TT sucks!If you don't think they are problems in Green Bay that need to be addressed, then you simply are a homer. I never said that we were not doing things well, but this team needs more if it is going to contend for another SB title, denying that is simply foolhardy.
People like you seem to choose the greatness of this team being destroyed by the lousy performances put in by our defenses. But hey, I am sure you would be fine with another playoff appearance with a quick exit because an historically bad defensive performance in the playoffs yet one again.
You are simply proving the point of my whole post, you are on the other extreme of all the doomsayers who say fire everyone. You blindly ignore the serious problems with parts of the team and say everything is fine. It is not, there are some serious issues, especially on the defensive side of the ball that need to be addressed.
And I am so beyond sick of blind homerism leading to people like myself who see and understand that the Packers are not perfect and need to get better being called spoiled. It is ridiculous. There was another thread where I talked about Ted being a great GM and pointed out the fact that the last time the Packers had Super Bowl success was a direct result of some FA moves that were made, I also said that there really has not been much available the last few years in this department.
So where is all your FA talk after quoting my post coming from?