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Textbook Hit?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by El Guapo, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. El Guapo

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    http://blog.packers.com/2013/08/26/news-notes-mccarthy-takes-exception-to-manning-penalty/
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    I wish that I could find the video or another picture of the hit further in progress. However, what I remember from the game was that Manning subsequently arched his back and drove his shoulder and weight into Quinn's body. Five years ago that was acceptable in the NFL. Now they throw flags. Had Manning continued his picture-perfect hit as shown above by letting go and merely knocking Quinn down, the penalty could have been averted. The problem is that Manning left his feet to finish the tackle, but he didn't need to do that. That's my opinion.

    Textbook hit? Yes.
    Textbook quaterback tackle? No.

    Counter arguments...
     
  2. JBlood

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    It was a perfectly legit hit. The players no longer know what's acceptable when it comes to rushing the passer. It won't be long before all QBs are simply declared untouchable. The game has so many penalties now that it is becoming unwatchable.
     
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  3. HardRightEdge

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    Textbook hit. Very similar to one Clay got flagged for last year.

    Why should the defender need to let let go? Is he supposed to fall on his face? Wrapping up and following through prevents DEFENDER injury, if anybody cares about that any more.
     
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  4. GoPGo

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    Should NEVER have been a flag on that play.
     
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  5. weeds

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    I really don't think that there can be a legit counter argument, El.

    It is a bonafide 'textbook', plain and simple. Hell, back in the day I used to pick the QB up and throw him 5 yards...hahahaa. I know dirty...I know malicious -- THIS was a thing of beauty to be honest.
     
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  6. PFanCan

    PFanCan That's MISTER Cheesehead, to you.

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    I thought it was textbook. However, I haven't seen any replays other than what was shown during the game. And, during the replays, we had to listen to the broadcaster (was it Phil Simms?) blather on how obvious that the hit was illegal...

    I didn't see it. But, I would like to see the video in slo-mo with someone more knowledgeable than me describing the infraction.
     
  7. GoPGo

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    Well, the ball was still in his hands when he hit him. He didn't make contact with the helmet. He didn't hit him low. He didn't lead with his own helmet. The only reason it may have appeared illegal is because Quinn jumped as he was being hit. That's on him. The damn ref in that game needs put to pasture.

    Conclusion? Simms is a blathering idiot.
     
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  8. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    Hell, even in the damn pre-season we get screwed on calls vs the seaCawks. I watched NFL replay on NFL network and saw the game, that hit was EXACTLY how I was taught when I played and that is how I teach my son and his teammates to tackle....stick,wrap, and drive'em to the turf.
     
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  9. buggybill2003

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    looked legit to me
     
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  10. JBlood

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    Remember, the broadcasters are working for the NFL--they are NOT reporters. I watched the video of John Riggins the other night. Now, there is a guy I'd like to have commenting on games.
     
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  11. El Guapo

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    ...and the "drive'em to the turf" part is what I think is not textbook anymore. The NFL is trying to protect QBs and keep them upright. Team owners don't want their billion dollar investments driven into the turf. Everything prior to the drive'em to the turf part is textbook. The NFL is changing the textbook and that is my point, not that's it's wrong in my eyes but what the NFL is attempting to change.

    It's not as cut and dry as everyone wants it to be
     
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  12. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    The QB/RB/WR/TE or whomever may have the ball, all deserve to be tackled and should be tackled with the proper technique. Nobody rates a different way to be tackled due to position played, that is just silly. This game is played at such a fast pace, there is no time to make split second tackle adjustments. Stick'em, wrap'em, drive'em.....that way they don't have a chance to get away and go anywhere. If my 11-13 year olds can do it without a complaint, then these high paid muscle bound tough guys should too.
     

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