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Short Arms? BS!

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by PackersRS, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. PackersRS

    PackersRS Cheesehead

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    Daily Mailbag: The insanity of short arms - NFC North Blog - ESPN

    GREAT point by Kevin Seifert (Yes, a viking fan) over at ESPN.COM.

    I'm not as dry as him, I do think arm lenght has influence, but at 33, it's not an issue.

    To me, it's an issue when the guy has 31-32 inch arms, and doesn't have the athleticism, the footwork to get by.

    OF course, as Seifert points out, it's more a matter about footwork.

    My feeling is that, if the guy's got 36, 37 inch arms, he can get by with a sloppier technique. And if the guy's got 31-32 inch arms, he needs to be perfect every single snap.

    But, like Seifert said, I got no proof of that, fact is a lot of 32 inch arms are the best in the league, and a lot of 36 inch arms are out of the league.

    In the end of the day, if the guy's got good technique/footwork/mentality, he's gonna make it. If he doesn't, he's not.

    Bulaga, apparently, has got it all.
     
  2. CM_Awesome

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    Read this earlier. It's a very good article. His arm length really isn't much of an issue, I just think the talking heads overanalyze things way too much. As it says, Bulaga has longer arms than Thomas and Long. Reminds me of how Todd McShay kept blasting Jimmy Clausen for his injury concerns and saying no team wants to take a chance on him. Ummm hello, and Sam Bradford doesn't have injury concerns? Bulaga will be fine, the arm length stuff sure is BS.
     
  3. ivo610

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    Yeah I pointed out the joe thomas comparison last week to someone on here who was down on him for arm length. People make such a big deal about nothing. I understand they must fill the negative box on draft magazines to cover their butt when a high graded prospect busts but some stuff makes no sense.
     
  4. Murgen

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    Bull will be ok whether he has 31" or 39" monkey arms.
     
  5. NYPacker

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    Bulaga will be just fine in the NFL. The reason why he was getting bashed so much heading into the draft was not because of his arm length but because of all the Gallery comparisons. However from many have said, Gallery was nowhere near the type of player that Bulaga is. Gallery didn't have as much potential going into the draft either. Bulaga is a smart, sound "technician" who gets by with his skills. Gallery meanwhile had somewhat similar characteristics but people were talking more about his athleticism.
     
  6. TheGiftedApe

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    Mel Kiper Jr, rarely brings up things related to football players actual abilities and skills. He mostly talks about "Arm Length", 40 times, # of ints or sacks, or how mel kiper thinks they are a gonna be the next hall of fame whatever..(what about the players grades in college or what his coach says about him, how does he look on actual GAME FILM, not Work out or play practice LOL)And for some reason even though he is wrong every year on 99% of what he says people still listen to what he has to say and take it as FACT. It's almost ludicrous that this guy is even still around. ESPN needs to make the draft 1 day long again, starts at noon ends and midnight, 10 rounds. No more of this BS that it is becoming. You see a lot of teams like the broncos falling for it, drafting tebow in round 1, that was all for publicity obviously. He wont be playing this year, probably not next year either, and without the media forcing these college players down GM's throats you'd see a lot more of these UDFA's actually being drafted like they should be. Everysingle one of our picks except quarless i think, was rated way lower where we picked them, than where Mel Kiper Jr, said they were definatley going to go.

    onto the bulaga arm BS thing, I'd be willing to bet there are atleast a couple of 35 inch arm guys that just got drafted that wont see 1 NFL snap of a real game. As well as I'm sure there are some guys with shorter arm's than Bulaga that will pan out to be solid O-line guys. as well as vice versa, mesurments are really the most overrated thing about Player evaluation. How did tony mandarich go?
     
  7. NYPacker

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    Well said.
     
  8. PackersRS

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    Bulaga = as high as #5 pick
    Burnett = early/late 2nd rounder
    Quarless = 4th rounder because of character concerns
    Newhouse = 3rd rounder
    Starks = 5th rounder
    C.J. Wilson = 4th/5th rounder, saw him go 3rd round in some mocks...

    So, actually, only Neal was considered a reach. The rest were all considered steals.

    "Analysts" downgrade our draft because we didn't fill so-called needs at OLB and CB.

    And Mandarich was a whole nother discussion. He only displayed his physical skills because of STEROIDS, which he couldn't use in the pros.

    It's not that they poorly evaluated him, it's that he cheated...

    But as I said earlier, I agree with your main point...
     
  9. Incubes12

    Incubes12 Bay Harbor Butcher?

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    I don't really see how arm length could correlate to being good at anything other than holding or facemasking for an OL.
     
  10. PackersRS

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    In theory, if you have longer arms than you opponent, you have better chances of reaching him before he reaches you, gaining leverage in the play.

    But speed off the ball, bend, feet and hands technique, as well as experience to know pass rushing moves and to prepare for them, and strenght, of course, are much more vital ingredients to the trenches battle than a slight advantage of reaching the opponent faster...
     
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    I see, that seems like it would really only be an issue when you have to VERY good linemen matched against each other.

    I remember hearing about this issue with Bulaga and thinking that analysts really will find any little fault that exists in someone.
     
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    That kid from Maryland is physically better than any LT drafted in the past decade and its very likely he wont do anything in the NFL
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkd9xBwvoI]YouTube - Iowa's Bulaga vs Maryland's Campbell - Vertical Jump[/ame]
     
  13. JBlood

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    crocs have short arms and are still pretty dangerous. Much ado about nothing.
     
  14. CM_Awesome

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    Question is, will Bulaga's croc instincts take over, and if so, will he pull a Daryl Tapp? :eat:
     
  15. JBlood

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    Good one. Short arms like Moss' (the turtle) when he goes over the middle are much worse
     

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