rodell330
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Shields' leverage scares me. He should demand twice the contract Burnett got and you really couldn't argue with his logic in wanting that. That is the contract is the gift that keeps on giving........me headaches.
Exactly.
Shields' leverage scares me. He should demand twice the contract Burnett got and you really couldn't argue with his logic in wanting that. That is the contract is the gift that keeps on giving........me headaches.
All of that is true, but if the player gets injured during that year (such as an ACL tear), the long term money goes out the window. So if Shields signs the franchise tag, makes $11M next year and tears his ACL, his CAREER earnings would be $14m. He'd be 26 years-old and out of a job.
Still, $11M would be a pretty nice chunk of change for a guy who has made around $3M like you said for his entire career. If Shields is smart, that would probably be enough to set him up for life.
Also, it's unlikely that an ACL tear would end a career at his age assuming a full recovery, given his talent level. I know that's not your point, and I know that football is an inherently dangerous sport. I would still imagine that the number of players playing on a franchise tag who happen to suffer a career ending injury that year is extremely low. Sure, it can happen, but the franchise tag amount, once signed, is guaranteed. It should be enough to set you up for life and then put you again in a situation where you can either test free agency or play for 120% of the previous franchise tag number.
Some players (Finley) will even take out insurance policies on themselves in the event of a career ending injury.
So, it's not a bad deal for a player if they're not playing for way under market value and willing to take on a very tiny risk. Obviously, for highly elite players like Rodgers and Brees, it's not a good deal for them to sign a $18M franchise tag when they are awaiting $60M or so in guarantees on a long-term deal.
All of that is true, but if the player gets injured during that year (such as an ACL tear), the long term money goes out the window. So if Shields signs the franchise tag, makes $11M next year and tears his ACL, his CAREER earnings would be $14m. He'd be 26 years-old and out of a job.
Hayward is a star in the making. SURELY he was hampered by injury last year, more than we know IMO. I expect a push for tramons starting spot this year. He's a stud who just needs time on the field.
According to Pro Football Focus, Sam is the 24th best Free Agent Corner available. That number is pretty misleading though because he played the 7th most snaps of anyone above him. If the reports of what he's looking for are true, I agree it's a no brainer.
Actually they have him ranked 6th in their 2014 free agent rankings:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/02/20/ranking-the-2014-free-agents-cornerbacks/
It wouldn´t make a difference if he signed a long-term contract as it´s possible to release him after one season as well and mostly only the signing bonus and the first year salary are guaranteed.
I bet Shields get a contract similar to the one Kennan Lewis got with the Saints. It was 5 years for 25.5 million.
That's not true. All depends on how the contract is structured and the cap hit involved.
What would be the cost of releasing Tramon and going after Aqib Talib? Or if we couldn't agree with Shields, how much more would Talib cost? We could have Talib and Shields or Talib and Willams...
Just a random thought.
If the Packers would release Tramon that would result in $2 million of dead money counting against the cap, but actually saving $7.5 million in cap space for 2014.
I´m not sure what Talib will be asking for, but I don´t think TT will take a look at him considering his numerous off-the-field issues in the past.
I agree that Ted will probably not even look his way due to the last part of this comment but I think these are the kind of risk/reward moved Ted needs to start making. If the guy can help the team he needs to be considered regardless of whatever issues he may have. Talib in particular I don't see happening because of the money he will probably be commanding on top of the issues you refer to. But if the price is right and a player can help them win but has issues he needs to look past them and make the move.
Most contracts are structured in the way that only the base salary of the first year is guaranteed though (aside of the signing bonus of course). Sometimes the second year of a contract is guaranteed as well, mostly for QBs though.
For example the only guaranteed money Clay Matthews got was the $20.5 million signing bonus.
While that might be true, it still doesn't address two things:
My entire point is that no player would rather play under the tag than sign a long-term contract. Players want the longer term commitment.
- Why would the Packers, or any team, cut a player immediately after signing them to a long-term contract? How bad would Shields have to be next year to be cut at the beginning of Year 2 of a four year deal?
- The cap hit the main determinant between a player staying and going. Depending on the cap hit of being cut, a player might be able to keep collecting checks. (i.e. Morgan Burnett and Brad Jones)
You talked about the danger of suffering a career ending injury while playing under the franchise tag. In this case a player doesn´t have more security by signing a long term deal as he can be cut after one season.
Playing under the franchise tag can help a player make more money in the long term if playing at a higher level than before being tagged.
If a player gets injured (or has a horrible year) while playing under the franchise tag, the player can make significantly less money in the long term.