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Everyone knows - no one knows for sure - two routes lay before us. One with and one without Rodgers....in this mock draft we live in the world where we sadly enter the post-Rodgers era in Green Bay.
There is a limited number of teams that a QB like Rodgers truly pushes them straight into playoff contenders and more. Jets being one with arguably the best young roster is where I'll do the trade for this hypothetical.
In that trade I still believe we get less than most but are willing to take less in future for more now:
Jets send us 1.13 and 2.43 this year + a 4th next year that can conditionally elevate to a 1st + we get young prospects Denzel Mims WR and Jeremy Ruckert TE.
Packers send Aaron Rodgers and the last of our multiple 7th rounders projected due to comp picks.
So we enter the draft with 1.13, 1.15, 2.43, 2.45, 3.78, 4.116, 5.151, 5.171, 7.234, 7.237 and 7.244
Not messing with trades and such as it can just get nuts and desire to do tons.
1.13 - You draft prospects not needs still ultimately wins out for Gute at this pick and we hear a name not many will be happy about from a positional spot. Christian Gonzalez CB out of Oregon is coming to Green Bay and arguably is one of the best three CBs in this draft - some say CB1. On the surface this seems crazy since we just signed Jaire to a long term deal, Stokes played very well his rookie year and was hurt last year, Rasul was signed and is here too....but what Christian does is instantly provide DB flexibility that we've never had in GB arguably ever. Rasul to safety is an option...moving Jaire around literally anywhere is an option...Christian is a bonafide stud on the outside or the inside...has the size/length to match up with bigger threats and the length and quickness to match up with the speed threats. Doesn't shy away from open field tackling either...bonafide first round graded prospect comes to GB right off the bat.
1.15 - Again...you draft prospects not needs....while this player is facing a room possibly returning not just all the starters but the first back up starter that saw time in 2022 as well...BUT again often times you draft prospects not needs - Peter Skoronski OT from Northwestern is there for the picking and is bonafide top 3 OL in this draft and a rush on edge/QB along with Carter/Bresee cause Skoronski to be one sitting there. Just a massively high level floor type guy who could wind up being an All Pro tackle in his rookie deal...yes I see a slightly higher ceiling with Broderick Jones and Paris Johnson - but Skoronski arguably does have the highest floor out of the three and would instantly walk in and truly make us have to find a spot for him....does that mean Yosh actually may get tendered and be a reserve.....Tom has to compete at guard or center even....I don't care but that OL room has to be better regardless of who we have at QB but especially if we want Love's growing pains in his first year to not kill him.
2.43 Jalin Hyatt WR Tennessee....what is the best way to showcase Watson's versatility and deep threat nature....or allow Doubs to continue to grow into what he showcased? Get another true home run type WR that can routinely win in the slot and also if lined up outside. This young man is aiming and many believe he will do it - run a 4.2 something at the combine. What this young man did to elite defenses in Alabama and Georgia was special...don't let the fact most of his work was out of the slot worry you - this cat has the route ability and the footwork to beat his man regardless of where he lines up against him.
2.45 Darnell Washington TE Georgia...so here is the first guy IMO that shouldn't be here...BUT a big factor in whether Darnell makes it to mid-second round depends less on him as a prospect but how the teams rate Luke Musgrave and Dalton Kincaid (rumored medical issues possibly). Darnell could be the second TE off the board or the 4th/5th (Tucker Kraft may sneak there). In this situation he is there and at this point one could argue Gute has the perfect intersection of need and prospect hit each other.
3.78 Quite possibly the second best intersection of need and prospect happens here in the third....now all that probably won't matter as 3rd round guys are cursed here in GB...BUT most of those busts have been offensive guys - let's see if Isaiah Foskey EDGE from Notre Dame can change all that. Foskey is the perfect example of a VERY high floor type prospect whose ceiling is what is keeping him out of a higher slot. He is for sure a top 100 prospect, but many have grown to question if he's a top 50. Very tough to guess where he may go, but if he is there in the third and Gute hasn't called an edge there are very few if any possibly with more plug and play potential than Foskey. Gary most likely won't be full speed by beginning of the season and while I loved what Kingsley showed us, and Hollins even I want to keep pumping potentials into this room.
4.116 Gute sends a message to guys like Newman, Runyan and Myers (even Tom to an extent).....no job is safe here and last year's lack of performance will NOT repeat. Jaelyn Duncan is an excellent starting Tackle prospect from Maryland - who slimmed down a touch for the Senior Bowl measuring in at 6054 and 298lbs. I see him being asked to take on any position really but center - as he showcased strength and ability to move inside in reps at the bowl practices. We may have the luxury of keeping him inside, but a lot of that may depend more on where we think Tom is going to wash out at and if Bakh is still here. Trenches win games come the playoffs - Gute doubles down in the first 125 on the one side of the ball....
5.151 Speaking of doubling down in the trenches...Gute does it twice again adding another guy along the defensive front in Jalen Redmond iDL from Oklahoma. This is a prospect many are mixed on - some will see only his immense upside and BIG flash games, while others see when he seemingly disappeared for the Sooners. Truthfully that is the precise reason why I think the 4th-6th round is where this man finds himself being picked. Lowry and Reed are no longer under contract, yes Wyatt came on strong at the end and Slaton looked like a new man too...but reinforcements are needed even if Reed is signed back like many have hinted the GB staff desires to do so.
5.171 Trey Dean S from Florida hears his name called....Safety is a position with Amos leaving and Savage regressing that truthfully needs answered....now of course that could be partially answered with Christian added to the team, but Dean offers a unique history of playing corner, safety and even rover/linebacker role in his time with the Gators. At 6'3' and over 200 lbs, his frame allows him to fill holes and strength allows him to fight and hold them more than some would think. He is a hot motor, which can overcommit and read wrong....if refinement happens watch out as he could be special.
7.234 Devonnsha Maxwell DL Chattanooga...this is an awesome small school prospect that I'm quite high on and personally will feel it is not right he is there this late, HOWEVER pushing my small school spotlight infatuation aside he is precisely the type of guy that could be there for sure here. 6'2' and under 300 pounds he is a bit of that lighter DE type guy that has juice and excels at creating pressures - he needs a lot of refined work on processing and holding his responsibilties in the run game, but I could easily see him as a stash on PS or a guy that could serve as a 5-10 snap a game type for breathers his first year. Again Reed/Lowry both gone and Jonathan Ford isn't worthy of not being given competition.
7.37 Ryan Greenhagen LB Fordham....call it my small school prospect run but Greenhagen is another one I love more than most. If this young man gets his hands on you, it is rarer than a unicorn that you get further...and if you do he will not have let go. A tackling machine he accumulated over 100 tackles in literally just 5 games last season and now fully healthy I expect he showcases above average (not elite) measurements and sneaks into the draft. Barnes may not be back and depth at ILB is always worth throwing a dart at.
7.244 I had two forms of thoughts here....could go long term low chance dart at QB....or just load up the trenches which is usually my go to...but with Aaron Jones contract how it is, AJ Dillon the kind of runner he is and Patrick Taylor not showing any hint of being higher than a RB3...I want to see if between this pick and Tyler Goodson we have a potential RB2 of the future. Evan Hull from Northwestern is Mr. Consistent and honestly there were times at the Senior Bowl as the latest example he looked like the absolute best offensive weapon on the field. I do concede, RBs are tough to predict, but this is the longest shot to realistically happen of this entire draft. Evan could easily hear his name called before the end of the 5th...but when talking Day 3s this isn't unreasonable to imagine.
In the end IMO the first three picks are more prospect > need type picks which I know many don't like...but strongly believe that is the best way to build a franchise generally (I have examples where it is so stupid to do so too).
There is a limited number of teams that a QB like Rodgers truly pushes them straight into playoff contenders and more. Jets being one with arguably the best young roster is where I'll do the trade for this hypothetical.
In that trade I still believe we get less than most but are willing to take less in future for more now:
Jets send us 1.13 and 2.43 this year + a 4th next year that can conditionally elevate to a 1st + we get young prospects Denzel Mims WR and Jeremy Ruckert TE.
Packers send Aaron Rodgers and the last of our multiple 7th rounders projected due to comp picks.
So we enter the draft with 1.13, 1.15, 2.43, 2.45, 3.78, 4.116, 5.151, 5.171, 7.234, 7.237 and 7.244
Not messing with trades and such as it can just get nuts and desire to do tons.
1.13 - You draft prospects not needs still ultimately wins out for Gute at this pick and we hear a name not many will be happy about from a positional spot. Christian Gonzalez CB out of Oregon is coming to Green Bay and arguably is one of the best three CBs in this draft - some say CB1. On the surface this seems crazy since we just signed Jaire to a long term deal, Stokes played very well his rookie year and was hurt last year, Rasul was signed and is here too....but what Christian does is instantly provide DB flexibility that we've never had in GB arguably ever. Rasul to safety is an option...moving Jaire around literally anywhere is an option...Christian is a bonafide stud on the outside or the inside...has the size/length to match up with bigger threats and the length and quickness to match up with the speed threats. Doesn't shy away from open field tackling either...bonafide first round graded prospect comes to GB right off the bat.
1.15 - Again...you draft prospects not needs....while this player is facing a room possibly returning not just all the starters but the first back up starter that saw time in 2022 as well...BUT again often times you draft prospects not needs - Peter Skoronski OT from Northwestern is there for the picking and is bonafide top 3 OL in this draft and a rush on edge/QB along with Carter/Bresee cause Skoronski to be one sitting there. Just a massively high level floor type guy who could wind up being an All Pro tackle in his rookie deal...yes I see a slightly higher ceiling with Broderick Jones and Paris Johnson - but Skoronski arguably does have the highest floor out of the three and would instantly walk in and truly make us have to find a spot for him....does that mean Yosh actually may get tendered and be a reserve.....Tom has to compete at guard or center even....I don't care but that OL room has to be better regardless of who we have at QB but especially if we want Love's growing pains in his first year to not kill him.
2.43 Jalin Hyatt WR Tennessee....what is the best way to showcase Watson's versatility and deep threat nature....or allow Doubs to continue to grow into what he showcased? Get another true home run type WR that can routinely win in the slot and also if lined up outside. This young man is aiming and many believe he will do it - run a 4.2 something at the combine. What this young man did to elite defenses in Alabama and Georgia was special...don't let the fact most of his work was out of the slot worry you - this cat has the route ability and the footwork to beat his man regardless of where he lines up against him.
2.45 Darnell Washington TE Georgia...so here is the first guy IMO that shouldn't be here...BUT a big factor in whether Darnell makes it to mid-second round depends less on him as a prospect but how the teams rate Luke Musgrave and Dalton Kincaid (rumored medical issues possibly). Darnell could be the second TE off the board or the 4th/5th (Tucker Kraft may sneak there). In this situation he is there and at this point one could argue Gute has the perfect intersection of need and prospect hit each other.
3.78 Quite possibly the second best intersection of need and prospect happens here in the third....now all that probably won't matter as 3rd round guys are cursed here in GB...BUT most of those busts have been offensive guys - let's see if Isaiah Foskey EDGE from Notre Dame can change all that. Foskey is the perfect example of a VERY high floor type prospect whose ceiling is what is keeping him out of a higher slot. He is for sure a top 100 prospect, but many have grown to question if he's a top 50. Very tough to guess where he may go, but if he is there in the third and Gute hasn't called an edge there are very few if any possibly with more plug and play potential than Foskey. Gary most likely won't be full speed by beginning of the season and while I loved what Kingsley showed us, and Hollins even I want to keep pumping potentials into this room.
4.116 Gute sends a message to guys like Newman, Runyan and Myers (even Tom to an extent).....no job is safe here and last year's lack of performance will NOT repeat. Jaelyn Duncan is an excellent starting Tackle prospect from Maryland - who slimmed down a touch for the Senior Bowl measuring in at 6054 and 298lbs. I see him being asked to take on any position really but center - as he showcased strength and ability to move inside in reps at the bowl practices. We may have the luxury of keeping him inside, but a lot of that may depend more on where we think Tom is going to wash out at and if Bakh is still here. Trenches win games come the playoffs - Gute doubles down in the first 125 on the one side of the ball....
5.151 Speaking of doubling down in the trenches...Gute does it twice again adding another guy along the defensive front in Jalen Redmond iDL from Oklahoma. This is a prospect many are mixed on - some will see only his immense upside and BIG flash games, while others see when he seemingly disappeared for the Sooners. Truthfully that is the precise reason why I think the 4th-6th round is where this man finds himself being picked. Lowry and Reed are no longer under contract, yes Wyatt came on strong at the end and Slaton looked like a new man too...but reinforcements are needed even if Reed is signed back like many have hinted the GB staff desires to do so.
5.171 Trey Dean S from Florida hears his name called....Safety is a position with Amos leaving and Savage regressing that truthfully needs answered....now of course that could be partially answered with Christian added to the team, but Dean offers a unique history of playing corner, safety and even rover/linebacker role in his time with the Gators. At 6'3' and over 200 lbs, his frame allows him to fill holes and strength allows him to fight and hold them more than some would think. He is a hot motor, which can overcommit and read wrong....if refinement happens watch out as he could be special.
7.234 Devonnsha Maxwell DL Chattanooga...this is an awesome small school prospect that I'm quite high on and personally will feel it is not right he is there this late, HOWEVER pushing my small school spotlight infatuation aside he is precisely the type of guy that could be there for sure here. 6'2' and under 300 pounds he is a bit of that lighter DE type guy that has juice and excels at creating pressures - he needs a lot of refined work on processing and holding his responsibilties in the run game, but I could easily see him as a stash on PS or a guy that could serve as a 5-10 snap a game type for breathers his first year. Again Reed/Lowry both gone and Jonathan Ford isn't worthy of not being given competition.
7.37 Ryan Greenhagen LB Fordham....call it my small school prospect run but Greenhagen is another one I love more than most. If this young man gets his hands on you, it is rarer than a unicorn that you get further...and if you do he will not have let go. A tackling machine he accumulated over 100 tackles in literally just 5 games last season and now fully healthy I expect he showcases above average (not elite) measurements and sneaks into the draft. Barnes may not be back and depth at ILB is always worth throwing a dart at.
7.244 I had two forms of thoughts here....could go long term low chance dart at QB....or just load up the trenches which is usually my go to...but with Aaron Jones contract how it is, AJ Dillon the kind of runner he is and Patrick Taylor not showing any hint of being higher than a RB3...I want to see if between this pick and Tyler Goodson we have a potential RB2 of the future. Evan Hull from Northwestern is Mr. Consistent and honestly there were times at the Senior Bowl as the latest example he looked like the absolute best offensive weapon on the field. I do concede, RBs are tough to predict, but this is the longest shot to realistically happen of this entire draft. Evan could easily hear his name called before the end of the 5th...but when talking Day 3s this isn't unreasonable to imagine.
In the end IMO the first three picks are more prospect > need type picks which I know many don't like...but strongly believe that is the best way to build a franchise generally (I have examples where it is so stupid to do so too).
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