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Packers vs Giants: Previews & Predictions

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  1. TOPHAT

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    http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/story/2008/1/17/13117/2861

    Preview: Giants at Green Bay

    ...The Giants have no business playing in the NFC Championship game. They arguably entered the NFC playoffs with the worst defense and the worst quarterback. Their defense ranked 17th overall and allowed 21.9 points/game, lower than Dallas (13th, 20.3/game) and Tampa Bay (3rd, 16.9/game), while QB Eli Manning was ranked 30th by Football Outsiders and his NFL passer rating was 25th, which was significantly worse than the regular season stats compiled by QB Tony Romo and QB Jeff Garcia. Statistically the Giants should have not gotten this far, but obviously they have not been playing their opponents on paper. What have they been doing right in the playoffs? First, they haven't committed any turnovers in two playoff games. Second, although they've failed to generate over 300 yards on offense in either playoff game, when they get near the red zone, they've scored a touchdown on 6 of their 7 scoring drives. Third, their defense has held both of their opponents under 20 points (Tampa scored 14, Dallas scored 17).

    The Packers would do better if they could force turnovers, but they aren't the most opportunistic defense and they only forced one turnover by Seattle last Saturday. Obviously they can force the Giants to settle for a field goal when they get in the red zone, but again that is easier said than done. However, the Giants will have a hard time holding the Packers under 20 points in the game. Since the bye week, when RB Ryan Grant became the starting running back, the Packers have scored more than 30 points in 8 of their last 11 games, and scored more than 30 points in their last 6 home games. They haven't scored under 30 points at Lambeau in 6 games with Grant as the starting running back.

    One big difference between the Packers and the Giants prior opponents is health. For Dallas, QB Tony Romo and WR Terrell Owens, and for Tampa Bay, QB Jeff Garcia and WR Joey Galloway, all played through injuries during their playoff losses. None of those players were at 100%, while the Packers are probably in the best health they've been all season and QB Brett Favre hasn't shown any lingering signs of the arm injury he suffered in Dallas back in November. I doubt the Packers will bring out any special defensive game plan for the Giants since the standard game plan has worked pretty well this season. Defensive coordinator Bob Sanders never plays too aggressive, but he has been willing to have one of his linebackers blitz more often over the last several games to get pressure on the quarterback. The safeties will play deep and the cornerbacks will press at the line of scrimmage.

    A big key is to stop the Giants running game because it is the best part of their offense and it will turn them into a one dimensional offense. Tampa Bay's run defense is about as good as the Packers according to Football Outsiders, Tampa's ranked 7th and the Packers 6th during the regular season, and Tampa held the Giants to 3.3 yards/carry two weeks ago. The Packers run defense also plays much better at home, having allowed 4.35 yards/carry on the road while only 3.23 at home against some pretty good run offenses such as Minnesota and Philadelphia. The big sin for Tampa's defense was they didn't get enough pressure on Manning, recording only one sack in the playoff game, which allowed him to complete 74% of his passes at Tampa, well above his season completion percentage of 56.1%.

    The Packers offense is playing their best football of the season after racking up 408 yards and 42 points against a very good Seattle defense last week. The veteran tackles controlled Seattle's great pass rushing defensive ends and will have to do the same against DE Osi Umenyiora and DE Michael Strahan who are arguably the two best defensive players on their team. Although CB Aaron Ross will play after dislocating his shoulder twice last week in Dallas, CBs Sam Madison and Kevin Dockery are unlikely to play and the Packers' four and five receiver sets, along with Favre's quick release, should cause them a lot of problems. The Giants have a good run defense, but Grant just shredded Seattle's even better run defense last week and the officials have overall shown an unwillingness to call any offensive holding penalties. Anything short of a chop block or tackling the defensive player should be permitted.

    The Giants have no business making it this far in the playoffs which makes them dangerous as one of those teams like Carolina in 2003 and Pittsburgh in 2005 that played way above their regular season performance once the playoffs started. However the Packers are rolling and betting against them is not a good idea with the way their offense has played over the last several home games. Packers 31, Giants 16.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09...te=without-video&confirm=true&campaign=ec0005

    Giants need Pierce to step up if they are to stop Grant: Key matchups for Sunday's NFC Championship Game

    1. Antonio Pierce, LB, N.Y. Giants vs Ryan Grant, RB, Green Bay

    You can probably make up an all-star team of unrestricted free agents from this weekend's games, and these two are near the top of the list. In Week 2, Grant was still a third-stringer and he had no rushing attempts and one reception for 21 yards in the game. In his first six games, he rushed for a total of 27 yards. In the next 10 regular-season games, he rushed for 929 yards -- and added 201 in last week's playoff win. Grant has the strength to run inside and the speed to run outside and has shown the ability to avoid tacklers in the open field. He is also a good receiver coming out of the backfield and will flank out as a wide receiver when the Packers try to create matchup problems. Pierce came into the NFL as an unrestricted free agent in 2001 as an outside linebacker, and he was signed by the Giants in 2005 as a restricted free agent. He has started at middle linebacker the last three seasons for the Giants and has been their leading tackler. He leads by example and is very vocal. He's a smart player who is very competitive. He had 12 tackles and one pass defended in the Week 2 meeting. Pierce should be a big factor in the Giants' run defense if they are to win this game -- though he did not play all that well against the run in Dallas last week.

    2. Eli Manning, QB, N.Y. Giants vs Al Harris, CB, Green Bay

    For the Giants to win, Manning needs to manage the game. He will most likely throw about 25 times, unless they fall behind and are trying to catch up. Manning has played well the past three games. He has the arm strength and the ability to find open receivers. Inclement weather should not bother him because he's used to the tough winds of the Meadowlands. Harris plays right corner in most all of their defenses. Rarely does he get into the slot. He likes to get his hands on you and play bump-and-run. He has very good hands playing the ball, but his game is won in the line of scrimmage. He has problems with speed receivers, but should do a good job with Giants receivers Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer, who are not burners.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-01-15-giants-packers-preview_N.htm

    When the Giants pass Edge GB
    Eli Manning has been effective because he's been efficient and error-free in the playoffs. But the Giants don't have the playmakers to consistently hurt lockdown corners Al Harris and Charles Woodson.

    When the Packers pass Edge GB
    Brett Favre has seven bona fide targets, and the Packers aren't afraid to empty the backfield and line up with five receivers. The Giants simply don't have the personnel to match up, and this could ultimately be their undoing.

    When the Giants run Edge EVEN
    Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw bring speed and power to the table, but they have yet to make a major impact in the postseason. They'll have to do it against a deep and talented Green Bay front seven.

    When the Packers run Edge GB
    Ryan Grant has been on fire over the second half of the season and becomes even more effective when Green Bay spreads out the opposition. He should come back to haunt the team that dealt him away just four months ago.

    Special teams Edge NY {In GB?}
    With punter Jeff Feagles and kicker Lawrence Tynes, the Giants own an experience edge in the kicking game. Return men Domenik Hixon and R.W. McQuarters have also stepped up lately.

    Coaching Edge GB
    Tom Coughlin has coached in title games before; he has just never won. On the other side, Mike McCarthy's play-calling has been excellent all season and must stay hot on a frigid day.


    FIVE KEYS TO VICTORY: Packers:

    Dictate tempo. The Packers lacked an established running game in their first meeting at the Meadowlands. Weather permitting, they can now pound the ball at a banged-up Giants defense or spread them out using multiple-receiver sets. Either way, they can keep the Giants on their heels.

    Get pressure up front against Eli Manning. The Packers got 31½ of their 36 sacks from their line. If Aaron Kampman, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila and Co. can provide more of the same Sunday, the Green Bay linebackers can lay back and make it harder for Eli Manning to find passing lanes.

    Press coverage. CBs Al Harris and Charles Woodson are excellent bump-and-run practitioners and aren't likely to get burned deep by Plaxico Burress or Amani Toomer, giving them an opportunity to stifle the Giants passing attack.

    Happy returns. In Koren Robinson, Tramon Williams and even Woodson, the Packers have playmaking kick returners. Any of them could break open the game at any time.

    Pass. Pass. Pass. YAC The Packers rack up yards after the catch (YAC) better than anybody, largely because Brett Favre likes to hit receivers on short slants that become big gainers.

    Stop the big run plays. In the cold weather, if the Pack stop the run, it will make Giants one-dimensional with more pressure on EM.

    Be cool. The Packers are young, and Brett Favre has been known to lay the occasional playoff egg. But after spotting Seattle 14 points, they showed the maturity to overcome adversity. Composure is key.

    Prediction: Packers 30, Giants 24 Considering the state of their beaten and battered secondary, the Giants have to get constant pressure on Packers QB Brett Favre from the get-go, and they have the ability do it with defensive ends Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan. But with RB Ryan Grant running so well and the Packers fleet of receivers tough to match up with defensively, Green Bay can keep the New York defense off balance and score with regularity while using the Giants' overpursuing pass rushers against them.

    MORE ABOUT THE GAME: The Packers would be more than happy to host another subfreezing, snow-filled game at Lambeau Field. However, the Giants' set of running backs, Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw, gives New York a good chance to compete in any weather. Giants QB Eli Manning isn't putting up intimidating passing numbers, but he is managing the offense extremely well. Avoiding turnovers will be crucial for New York, considering the confidence with which Green Bay's offense is playing. The Packers scored touchdowns on six consecutive possessions against the Seattle Seahawks as RB Ryan Grant's 201 rushing yards set up QB Brett Favre to play pitch and catch. The key could be who is able to return for the Giants secondary. CBs Sam Madison, Aaron Ross and Kevin Dockery have injuries that severely threaten the team's ability to cover the Packers' deep and talented receiving corps.

    Key matchup: Giants RT Kareem McKenzie vs. Packers DE Aaron Kampman. McKenzie described his play in the wild-card victory at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as "lousy." He also had admitted struggles against the Dallas Cowboys, particularly when they moved OLB DeMarcus Ware to his side. Kampman is a different beast than Ware but an equally dangerous pass-rushing threat. As dominant as Green Bay was against Seattle, it got little production out of its best defensive player as Kampman didn't record a tackle — though he did have two quarterback hits and a fumble recovery. He should be motivated to have a bigger impact against the Giants, who no doubt will spend the week devising various ways to provide help for McKenzie in the form of double teams, chips and tight end help.


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    FAVRE: YEAR CONTRAST

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/pr...%2F11%2F28%2Fnfl.brett.favre1204%2Findex.html

    Huck Finn's Last Ride. By Jeff MacGregor SI November 28, 2006

    http://gnb.scout.com/2/720347.html

    Favre makes SI cover again

    On a near perfect weekend of postseason football, nowhere were conditions more Favreable than in frosty Green Bay, where the Packers plowed through the Seahawks and into the NFC Championship Game

    Would you say the blessing, Breleigh?” Deanna Favre said last Thursday night before dinner, and her eight-year-old daughter earnestly cast her eyes toward the floor in thought. A day shy of her half-birthday, Breleigh, a bubbly, ponytailed blonde, had much to be thankful for. “God,” she said, matter-of-factly, “thank you for this food tonight, and thank you for my family and friends, and please help us beat Seattle, and please let us win the Super Bowl, and please let me have a happy half-birthday tomorrow.” Hard to believe, but Brett Favre feels more pressure from his young daughter than he does from a premier pass rush like the one he faced from the Seattle Seahawks last Saturday, or the one he’ll see on Sunday when his Packers host the New York Giants in the NFC Championship Game. Sacks he can take — 439 of them in his 17-year career — but he hates seeing Breleigh upset after a loss, something he admits to thinking about on the rare occasions when games were going south this season. “She can’t make it easy on me, can she?” Favre said, after one of the most memorable games of his Hall of Fame career, a 42–20 NFC divisional playoff victory over Seattle in the snow globe that was Lambeau Field. “I honestly don’t want to disappoint her. You know how kids can be. I don’t want her to go to school and have other kids say to her, ‘Your dad stinks.’ Which has happened.”

    Not lately. Favre, 38, has led the youngest team in the NFL to a 14–3 record and within one win of reaching Super Bowl XLII. “Did I ever think we’d be in this position?” Favre said, after the locker room had cleared out. “Quite honestly, no. I looked at us in the summer, and we were young at receiver, young at tight end, young in spots on the line. In the past, I knew every game what would work and how we’d win. Now I really have no idea week to week what’s going to go well and what isn’t. I’m thrilled about it, but it is a strange year. I’m just riding the wave.” If weather is as big a factor in the game this weekend as it was against Seattle (the early forecast was for a high of 12°) you’ve got to like Green Bay’s chances to advance to its first Super Bowl in 10 years. On Saturday the snow that began falling early on created a near whiteout in the second half, but Favre was impervious to the conditions. He completed 18 of 23 passes on the day (two were dropped) for 173 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions. The offensive line overcame treacherous footing and held the cat-quick Seahawks’ front seven to one sack and three quarterback pressures. Best of all, running back Ryan Grant, who was traded by the New York Giants to Green Bay on Sept. 1 for a sixth-round pick, recovered from losing two fumbles on his first three touches to run for a team playoff record 201 yards and score three touchdowns.

    Grant’s ascension­—five 100-yard rushing games in the regular season after taking over the No. 1 job in Week 8—transformed the Packers from the worst rushing team in the league after seven weeks to one that fits the philosophy of coach Mike McCarthy, who calls the plays. “I’d run it 50 times a game if I could; that would be a perfect game,” McCarthy said last Friday. Against Seattle, Green Bay ran on 35 of 59 offensive snaps (59%) and averaged a lusty 6.7 yards per carry. Though Grant’s lost possessions quickly put the Packers in a 14–0 hole, McCarthy said he ­didn’t consider pulling his 6-foot-1, 224-pound back, who had fumbled only once in 218 regular-season touches, because he was such an integral part of the game plan. “Who gives a [bleep]?” Favre told a downcast Grant on the sideline. “We’re going to keep handing it to you.” On the next six drives the 25-year-old Grant—a slashing, physical north-south runner—punished the Seahawks with 155 rushing yards; Green Bay scored on each of those possessions, running up its final 22-point margin with 13 minutes left in the game.

    Five months ago Grant, a part-time starter as a senior at Notre Dame in 2004 who went undrafted the following spring, was fifth on the Giants’ depth chart. Now he’s the hottest back in the playoffs. “When I watch him I see a hungry runner,” said All-Pro LaDainian Tomlinson, who caught some of Grant’s performance after his San Diego Chargers arrived in Indianapolis for their AFC playoff game (page 41). “The key to being a great back is that hunger.” You can say the same about passers. The night before the game Seattle coach Mike Holmgren, who had mentored Favre in Green Bay for seven seasons, said his defense “has to hit Brett a lot. I love him like a son, but we’ve got to hit him and disrupt his rhythm.” The Seahawks, who were fourth in the NFL in sacks in 2007, with 45, ­couldn’t do it. Even when they were able to flush him from the pocket, Favre would pull out another highlight-tape play like this one late in the first half: From the shotgun on third-and-eight at the Seattle 14, Favre brought tight end Donald Lee into the backfield as the play clock ran down to :01. At the snap, defensive tackle Brandon Mebane shot through a gap and got his hands on the quarterback. But Favre wheeled away, stumbling to his right, and as he fell he underhanded the ball to Lee for an 11-yard gain. Instead of having to settle for a field goal attempt, Green Bay got a three-yard touchdown run from Grant on the next play to give the Pack a 28–17 lead at halftime.

    “It’s funny,” Favre said afterward. “You would have thought I had played in a bunch of these games, but this was my first one where it snowed the whole game. I always wanted to play when it snowed so much you ­couldn’t see the field. How great was that? I had the time of my life out there.” Imagine if Favre can get the Packers into the Super Bowl, possibly as the final obstacle to a perfect season for the New England Patriots. Now that would give Breleigh something to pray for.
     
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    NY PREVIEW/PREDICTION: HILARIOUS EXCEPT OUTCOME

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...inside_the_matchups__ice_bowl_ii.html?ref=rss

    [align=center]Inside the Matchups - Ice Bowl II[/align]

    WHEN THE GIANTS HAVE THE BALL

    Quarterback vs. Defensive scheme:

    The transformation of Eli Manning into a mistake-free quarterback is the biggest story of the Giants' season. After tying for the league lead with 20 INTs, Manning has yet to throw a pick in the postseason and has thrown eight TDs vs. one INT the last three games. Growing in confidence and aided by a less-complex game plan, Manning has engineered drives with more poise and vision than he has ever shown in his entire career. Now he must do it in adverse weather and against a balanced, physical defense. Manning has averaged just 22.5 passes in the first two playoff games, and the Packers defense, which is pretty stout against the run, will try to put the game in his hands by forcing him into third and long - Packer opponents were successful only 33% of the time converting on third down. Many feel the injury to Jeremy Shockey has Manning looking to more receivers and distributing the ball better. As a result, it hasn't been as easy to read his eyes and jump patterns. He still has to be careful, though. The Packers have experience at the corners and aggressiveness inside. Manning must know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. EDGE: Giants [REALLY?]

    Running Backs vs. Linebackers

    There is no mystery to what wins cold-weather games and, with Brandon Jacobs, the Giants feel they can run with anyone. What Jacobs will face, however, is an instinctive linebacking corps and a pretty good schemer in defensive coordinator Bob Sanders, who is probably going to stack the line to take away the run. It will be interesting to see how often the Giants run Jacobs behind FB Madison Hedgecock since MLB Nick Barnett fills holes and sheds blocks effectively, although some feel he can be worn down. OLB A.J. Hawk has been inconsistent, but has the speed to stay with TEs and RBs on passing plays and will be key in countering Ahmad Bradshaw when he's in the game. Green Bay's LBs practically had another bye week against Seattle, which ran the ball just 16 times. They'll be a lot busier on Sunday. EDGE: EVEN

    Wide Receivers and Tight End vs. Secondary

    This is an in-your-face secondary, led by the best set of CBs - Charles Woodson and Al Harris - the Giants have faced. Woodson and Harris can each take on WRs by themselves, so the challenge will be to get at Green Bay's young and sometimes mistake-prone safeties. If they are looking for the pigeon they found in Dallas' Jacques Reeves last week, they may have one in nickel back Tramon Williams, who has recently inherited the position and doesn't always react well to the ball. Rookie WR Steve Smith has been playing a bigger role out of the slot each week and will be key in attacking Williams. The Giants have to be concerned that a season of playing on a bad ankle may have finally caught up to Plaxico Burress. While Burress had eight catches for 144 yards and three TDs against the Packers in Week 2, he was unable to shake free last week, leaving Amani Toomer as the go-to guy downfield. SS Atari Bigby is a big hitter who seems to be maturing. FS Nick Collins is more inconsistent and not a good tackler. Earlier in the season, they had problems with TEs - and big Kevin Boss is making timely contributions each week. EDGE: Packers

    Offensive Line vs. Defensive Line

    Except for sack specialist Aaron Kampman, the Packers D-line is made up of unsung guys who, like the Giants' O-line, are greater than the sum of its parts. The Packers use a seven-man rotation so they can't be worn down and they get contributions from all of them. These are not penetrators against the run but obstacles. DT Ryan Pickett is a typical no-name who absorbs double teams in the Pack's two-gapping system and efficiently funnels the run to the linebackers. The Giants' cohesive line seems to get better as the game goes on. It is efficient, athletic and communicates well, especially with C Shaun O'Hara flanked by agile guards Chris Snee and Rich Seubert. Their task will be to get bodies on the Packer LBs and pick up those run blitzes Green Bay sends. The Packers can put three outstanding pass rushers up front on third down by moving Cullen Jenkins inside and bringing Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila into the game. Kampman's matchup against Kareem McKenzie, the worse pass protector of the Giants' two tackles, is worrisome. EDGE: EVEN [REALLY?]

    WHEN THE PACKERS HAVE THE BALL

    Quarterback vs. Defensive scheme:

    The Giants have what it takes to throw Brett Favre off his game, even if he did riddle them for 286 yards and three TDs in Week 2. The Cowboys made Favre look slow in their December showdown by collapsing the pocket. But beware: when he's dialed in, Favre is a blitz-killer and defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo must make a critical choice in getting maximum pressure on Favre or protecting a thin secondary that the savvy future Hall of Famer can easily exploit. Spagnuolo has been generally aggressive all year, supplanting his four-man rush with an unpredictable multitude of zone blitzes, but against a less-mobile Favre he might decide to drop seven into coverage much of the time. Against Tony Romo, Spagnuolo sent everyone - CBs from the outside, LBs and safeties up the middle, knowing the Giants were going to live or die with their pressure. Favre's revival this year has been built on the best decision-making of his career. In the first game against the Giants he started the second half with 14 straight completions, almost all of them short passes. Against Seattle in the divisional round, he continued to play within himself and read every blitz. Favre's record in cold weather is unparalleled and if either Bayou-bred quarterback is going to conquer the elements, it's him. EDGE: Packers

    Running Backs vs. Linebackers

    The Giants could rue the day they traded Ryan Grant. Beginning in Week 8 against Denver, Grant single-handedly transformed the Packers offense into a balanced attack that can both wear you down and light you up. Only LaDainian Tomlinson had more yards than Grant in the second half of the season. The Giants were getting battered by the Cowboys' Marion Barber last week before they began swarming to the ball and started cutting him down at the knees. By the second half, Barber, unaccustomed to playing full games, appeared to get tired and the game swung. They'll need a similar commitment against Grant, who picked up 75 of his 201 yards after the Seahawks made contact. The old Packers' sweep is alive and well with Grant. He has shown surprising breakaway speed, as well, and was the fastest player in the snow last week. Maybe it all sounds like he's the second coming of Paul Hornung and Jim Taylor combined, but his impact on this offense and Favre's ability to play-fake can't be overstated. MLB Antonio Pierce must stay disciplined and continue to make the stops that have made him the leader of this defense. EDGE: Packers

    Wide Receivers and Tight Ends vs. Secondary

    Even if the Giants can get all their battered DBs onto the tundra, the Packers will be a matchup headache. Like last week, the Giants must prevent the big play against a deeper, healthier WR corps coached by former Giants player/coach Jimmy Robinson. Green Bay can spread the field with wideouts, including what they call their "Big Five" set when Favre works out of an empty backfield in the shotgun. That will require R.W. McQuarters to have another game of his life, Sam Madison to gut one out, if he plays, and novice Geoffrey Pope to somehow avoid being attacked like he did vs. the Cowboys. The Packers' top three WRs, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver and rookie James Jones, are versatile. Jennings, who has taken over the No. 1 receiver role from Driver, is Favre's first big-play option and probably Corey Webster's difficult assignment after back-to-back weeks of Joey Galloway and Terrell Owens. Jennings, who can out-run Webster, abused Seattle's top corner, Marcus Trufant, when the Seahawks brought a safety up in the box to stop Grant. TE Donald Lee likes to get underneath zones in the middle, where he draws LB coverage, and is Favre's go-to guy while scrambling. The Giants have to be physical at the line as they disrupt all those West Coast slant patterns. EDGE: Packers

    Offensive Line vs. Defensive Line

    The Giants will win or lose the game here, as usual, although their edge over the Packers isn't as big as it was in Week 2 when offensive coordinator Joe Philbin called Green Bay's blocking "shoddy." While DEs Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan are scary matchups on the outside, the best place to exploit the Packers is inside. C Scott Wells is solid, but the play of LG Daryn Colledge (benched in the Dallas game) and RG Jason Spitz had been spotty, although the entire unit had its best performance while manhandling the Seahawks. That puts the spotlight on Justin Tuck, who comes up the middle in the Giants' three-DE formations. The Packers' tackles are good and helped limit sacks to one every 36 passing plays. They will try to pound the undersized Umenyiora and Strahan on running plays. LT Chad Clifton holds his own against speed rushers such as Umenyiora. RT Mark Tauscher, unorthodox but effective, held Strahan without a pressure in Week 2, but he'll face a more aggressive, less-rusty Strahan this time. EDGE: Giants [REALLY?]

    SPECIAL TEAMS

    Kicking Games

    Look back at some cold-weather games and how many of them are affected by special teams: the Sean Landeta "whiff" at Soldier Field, Willie Wood muffing a punt in the Ice Bowl. Packer punter Jon Ryan had one of those at Soldier Field this year when two punts were blocked, another went for nine yards and another snap was fumbled. Normally, Ryan provides his coverage teams with plenty of hang time. Mason Crosby, the Packers' rookie kicker, was 31 of 39 on the year with 14 touchbacks on kickoffs. For the Giants, Jeff Feagles remains a premier directional punter. Placekicker Lawrence Tynes has been steady, but hasn't had to make any clutch field goals. EDGE: EVEN

    Return Games and Coverage

    The Giants have been getting good field position from their return men lately - see McQuarters' 25-yard return to set up the decisive 37-yard TD drive on Sunday - but these are by far the best coverage teams they will have faced in the playoffs. The Giants will probably prefer to kick to Tramon Williams than Koren Robinson (23.8-yard average). Giants gunner David Tyree leads a good tackling coverage team. EDGE: Packers

    COACHING

    Give the Giants' coaching staff credit for having their team better prepared and more disciplined than Dallas. Spagnuolo was impressive again as he overcame injuries in the secondary to stifle a high-powered offense in the second half, going with his gut to make all the right calls. Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride has to get props for putting Manning into a mistake-free mode the last three weeks, establishing a great pass/run mix. The Packers' meticulous Mike McCarthy might have been Coach of the Year if Bill Belichick wasn't 16-0. He calls the plays and seems to roll out a new game plan every week designed to exploit a team's weaknesses. Whatever Tom Coughlin is selling at the moment, his team is buying. He also has the vast edge in playoff experience over the 1-0 McCarthy. Oh-for-two with the Jaguars, this is Major Tom's third crack in a conference championship game. A charm or a trend? EDGE: Giants [REALLY?]

    OVERVIEW AND PREDICTION

    Having beaten America's Team, the Giants move on to America's Quarterback, one of the feel-good stories of the year. This isn't Favre's first rodeo and one thing has been consistent about his career: the Packers live and die with that brawny right arm. Maybe this is too simple, but when you boil it down, the Giants must get to Favre before he gets to their secondary. Or, to put it another way, destinies seem to be colliding - the Giants on their improbable run, Favre on his magical season. It's a coin flip. [REALLY?] This one comes up . . . PACKERS: 26-20 {HE GOT THE OUTCOME RIGHT!}

    Note: This week, I had a hard time determining who was more laughable watching the "Big Blue" hype by the NY sports media elite or the sports media elite who work in NY...or both??

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    NY PREVIEW: HILARIOUS

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01162008/sports/giants/no_chance_in_hell_705474.htm

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01162008/sports/giants/no_chance_in_hell_705474.htm?page=2

    NO CHANCE IN HELL

    There's no doubt Brett Favre this weekend is the sentimental choice, and the Packers on Sunday are solid seven-point favorites to beat the Giants in the NFC Championship game at Lambeau Field. None of this works for the Giants. Mere underdog status isn't enough. Their coach is being hailed as The Great Communicator and their quarterback is now The Younger Brother Who Could. No one is assailing their character, commitment or confidence. For a team that admittedly thrives on beat-downs and put-downs, there's simply not enough here to whip them into an “I told you so" frenzy. The Giants don't win this game. Is this an honest opinion? Doesn't matter. It's what the Giants need to hear. You think Packers coach Mike McCarthy is going to say it? You think Ambassador Favre is going to denigrate anyone? Even Ryan Grant, traded away back in the summer by the Giants - inadvertently depositing a running game on the Packers - will have nothing venomous to contribute.

    DEALING WITH DESTINY: This could be the last go-round for Favre, and he's not about to let some half-baked Giants secondary stop him. He shredded the GiantsNew York Giants defensive backfield back on Sept. 16, completing 29 of 38 passes for 286 yards and three touchdowns, and that was back when the Giants were healthy on the back line.

    ICE MANNING COMETH: “We played in Buffalo, I don't think it can be colder than Buffalo," Amani ToomerAmani Toomer said. Oh yes it can. Eli ManningEli Manning is hot, but what happens when minus-13 wind chill stiffens his ungloved hands? The fair-weather Eli is about to again meet his evil twin. Note: Since Eli ignores this kind of stuff, one of his caring teammates should make him aware of this lack of faith in him as an outdoorsman.

    BACK ATTACK: In case anyone noticed, Marion Barber last week couldn't be hauled down very convincingly by the Giants on his way to 129 rushing yards. Now comes Grant - aka The One Who Got Away - and his hard-charging, physical running that accounted for 201 yards in the snow last week against the Seahawks. Taking a dig at a team's ability to stop the run is a shot across the bow to any defense and especially Pierce. Take that.

    SAFE SACKS: Nothing riles Michael Strahan up more than bringing up that “sack" he got off “Whoops, I fell" Favre back in 2001 to set the single-season sack record of 221/2. Strahan hasn't sacked Favre since then and clearly has a guilt complex about the whole sordid affair. Just ask him about it. Then duck.

    DEPTH CHART: Aaron Kampman (12 sacks) is a better pass-rusher than Osi Umenyiora, Donald Driver (82 receptions) is more dependable than Toomer, Greg Jennings (12 touchdown catches) makes more big plays than Burress. That should successfully tweak some of the Giants key players.

    HAPPY TRAILS: Sure, the Giants are 9-1 on the road but Lambeau isn't the road. It's purgatory in a freezer.

    SATED APPETITE: The surge of emotion expended and released after knocking off the rival and mouthy Cowboys can't be replenished in one week. The Giants are satisfied to get this far and won't summon up the same competitive fire for the more likeable Packers.

    COACHES: There, that should do it. Something disparaging for every one of the Giants, plus one parting shot for the coach: There's already a Lombardi Avenue and Holmgren Way in Green Bay, but nary a plan in place for a Coughlin Crossing in East Rutherford.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  5. Green_Bay_Packers

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    Packers by more than 14 :)
     
  6. joym13

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    Pack by 10!
     
  7. brnt247

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    38-17.

    Favre hits Jennings and Lee for Td's. Grant runs for 2 and Jackson runs for 1.

    Eli throws 1 td and 2 picks, Jacobs gets a rushing TD.
     
  8. flep

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    packers 34 - 17.

    The giants will not be able to cope when we go 5 wide.

    We should go with this from the start to stop the passs rush..

    They would have to pass rush and blitz at their peril because Brett will pick them apart with quick dump off slants if they try.

    Once that is established Grant will have a field day.
     
  9. packerfan4ever

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    i still feeel the cowboys gave the game away because they thought in the end they could beat them they didnt play hard enough to soft dropping passes you start doing that hard to catch up cowboys o-line was able to run the ball and they had some good passes if the guy didnt drop it i'm not confinecd they can rattle brett he has to many weapons and the d-line will be able to get to manning they want the s.b. and i dont see the giants stopping them
     
  10. Zombieslayer

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    Thanks Tophat.

    I think I said on another thread 42-17.
     
  11. pack_in_black

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    We're gonna win this game on the ground. Call it a hunch. Although I think we could win it through the air, too.
     
  12. Zombieslayer

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    It will be a balance. We'll use one to open up the other and vice versa.
     
  13. tromadz

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    We win by complete destruction. It will be cold, but no real wind.

    Packers: 107
    Giants: -10

    I also predict that Favre throws a snowball through Eli Manning's face if there is snow.

    Right through his face.
     
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    Sorry to break it to you guys...
    Spags will find ways to pressure Favre into mistakes
    Eli will manage the game and pick his spots
    Jacobs will have a big game with some Bradshaw mixed in there.

    Giants 28 Packers 24
     
  15. Zombieslayer

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    :rotflmao:

    Whatever you do, don't put money on that happening.
     
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    Again, this is why I come here. :rotflmao:
     
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    I laughed too.

    Eli will manage....to make best friends with the ground.

    There will be no pressure on Favre. Not consistently anyway. Green Bay hasn't allowed that all year, yet the banged up Giants will be the first team to do it? yeah right.

    Jacobs will be knocked out by Atari Bigby then eaten alive by Ryan Pickett.

    48 hours till I don't have to hear silly Giants fans anymore.
     
  18. Fuzznuts

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    Yes.

    For the MODerate posts by some, eh?

    Not.

    :doh:
     
  19. cheesey

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    O.......K.
    Step AWAY from the beer keg.......i think it's messing up your ability to think straight! :wink: :lol:
    I know your a Giants fan, so you EXPECT your team to win. But truth is, they haven't had to play us here yet. We are playing the best and most balanced football this season, and it would take an EPIC collapse of our entire team for the Giants to pull a win out at Lambeau this weekend.
    Could it happen? Yes. Will it happen? I sincerely doubt it. Did you SEE what we did to Seattle last week.......after spotting them 14 points? The 42-20 score was alot closer then the actual game.
    Here's to an injury free game on both sides!
     
  20. tromadz

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    Poor Fuzznuts.
     
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    EVERYONE knows you were just making a joke!!!..........well.........ALMOST everyone.
     
  23. cyoung

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    I said Packers by a close one (35-24 my prediction) I think the pack will take an lead and it will diminish as the game goes on.
     
  24. Zombieslayer

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    I seriously doubt it will be that close.
     
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    I think it will be an error prone, low scoring game.

    Packers will give up a late TD and win 20-13
     

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