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Packers release Greg van Roten

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  1. captainWIMM

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    accoding to overthecap his cap number for 2014 was $570k. but the Packers gain about only $150k in salary cap room if JSO is right. What am I missing?
     
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    Van Roten didn´t receive a signing bonus when he signed the contract in 2012, so there won´t be any dead money counting against the Packers cap because of his release.
     
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    #*&*, now what do I do with my Van Roten jersey?
     
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    I can't find anything specific about his foot injury. Maybe that is the deciding factor in his release.
     
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    This feels eerily like the QB situation from 2013 in terms of depth at center.

    I assume that the Packers had a good reason for releasing GVR, most likely his foot injury not improving. However, the timing of GVR's release strengthens EDS' bargaining position and therefore costs us money. Why not keep GVR until we've re-signed EDS? I'm also curious about our plan. I assume that TJ Lang is the #1 backup at center but this is not ideal. It's a position that has been in flux for a few years now, with 2013 being the only solid season.

    I'm a bit nervous but hopeful.
     
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    But that's whats confusing to me as well. If his cap # was 570K and there's no dead money, why is the savings only 150K? If someone has a detailed breakdown of how contracts work, I would LOVE to read it. I want very much to understand this back and forth but haven't found a great source yet that breaks it down.
     
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    The Journal Sentinel article just got it wrong. The salary cap number is actually the total of a player´s salary, workout and roster bonuses plus the prorated bonus a player received as a signing bonus.

    The prorated bonus is normally spread out over the entire length of a contract (maximum of five years though).
     
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    Some additional insight from Cheeseheadtv website:

    http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packer...m_campaign=Feed:+CheeseheadTv+(Cheesehead+TV)
     
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

    Try this one.
     
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    I agree with the linked article: GVR's release has nothing to do with EDS's negotiations. Also my guess is Tretter is the leading candidate to replace EDS if he's not re-signed. I think the bottom line on this release is as simple as they don't think he's good enough.
     
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    During the off season, only the top 51 cap hits count against the cap under the so called "Rule of 51". Dropping Van Roten's $570,000 is offset by elevating a minimum salary $420,000 guy to the top 51. Ergo, $150,000 savings.
     
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    "Wanting to get bigger" at center seems to be an annual thing. McCarthy has expressed this desire going back to when Wells was the starter, to the evident aggravation of that player one might add. And still, who are the guys we've had on the roster in recent years?

    Wells - 6'2", 302 lbs.
    Saturday - 6'2", 295 lbs.
    EDS - 6'2", 308 lbs.
    Gerhardt - 6'1", 310 lbs.
    Van Roten - 6'3", 303 lbs

    Given that list, it's hard to know what to make of this "getting bigger" claim.

    There's been little done about it so it's difficult to take it too seriously. On the other hand, if it's a matter of just not finding the right guy in that mold, then EDS certainly is not the kind of guy they'll want to hand a 4 or 5 year contract.

    Tretter may be the first bona fide effort to fulfill that promise. He's listed at 6'4", 307 lbs., the biggest in terms of height/weight combination we've had in recent years. A few cheeseburgers might get him to the "big" threshold; NFL centers tipping over 310 lbs. are in the minority.
     
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    thanks!
     
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    this isn't news. gvr and newhouse are both memories. NEXT!!
     
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    Van Roten just signed a contract with Seattle. Guess he's good enough for them.
     
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    That doesn't mean he'll play in a game for them.
     
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    That's true, but I find it interesting that the current best team in the NFL apparently sees something that our offensive line coaches (or whomever makes these decisions) don't. It's not as if our o-line is a dominant one in the league, and hasn't been for the last 7 years.
     
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