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Packers at the midpoint.

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Packerlifer, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. Packerlifer

    Packerlifer Cheesehead

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    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/

    Halfway through the season the Packers are down from their usual position in most offensive rankings. They are 13th overall in the league (6th in the NFC) in total offense. Twenty-sixth in passing (10th NFC.) And 16th in rushing (11th NFC.) They are 13th in scoring (6th in NFC.)

    Have special teams improved much? The Packers are 24th in the league in both kicking and punting and returns. However they are 8th in return yardage allowed and 9th in kicking and punting themselves.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/opp.htm

    Rather surprisingly the Packers do have a top ten ranking on overall defense (7th in the NFC.) But they rank only 19th in passing defense (12th in the NFC) and are 23rd against the run (11th in the NFC.)

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/passing.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/rushing.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/receiving.htm



    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/defense.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/kicking.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/returns.htm
     
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  2. JBlood

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    Same defense for the last 5 years, but very atypical numbers for the offense. Now I see Bulaga, Lang, and Sitton are all on the injury list. It may explain the offensive line problems the past few weeks, but MM downplaying it as "usual" by week 10. Both Lang and Sitton have back problems, which typically don't go away overnight. Not good. The offense needs to take charge these next 4 games.
     
  3. adambr2

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    We're actually 26th in total offense using yardage. 13th in points as you mentioned. I was wondering how we could be 13th in offense if we are 16th in rushing and 26th in passing but I see what you're saying now.
     
  4. adambr2

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    No matter how you add it up, there is far too much talent on this offense for us to be this inept, Jordy or no Jordy.

    We are very fortunate to be 6-2 because overall we have not played at the level of a 6-2 team thus far.
     
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  5. Sanguine camper

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    Certainly looks like the wheels are coming off the season. Mediocre talent at vest in defense and the offense is clearly stymied by the lack of a deep threat, terrible TE play and Lacy deciding to eat his way off the team. I do t see this team winning more than 3 games the rest of the way unless TT can find a deep threat somewhere.
     
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  6. Favre3132

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    Speaking of a deep threat, why is it that Janis cannot get on the field very much? I would think with his speed that he would be a viable deep threat without Jordy. Is it that he doesn't know how to run the routes, or AR does not trust him, or a combination of both? Makes me wonder what Janis could do with Bellicheat and Brady. They would figure out a way to use him on the Patriots.
     
  7. Patriotplayer90

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    If Gronk came along, but was unable to get a grasp of the entire playbook, do you think they would find a way to fit him in? I'd like to think they would, but I honestly wonder.
     
  8. ExpatPacker

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    Just keep doing the same thing Dom and keep expecting different results.
     
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  10. captainWIMM

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    It's pretty obvious Rodgers and therefore the coaching staff doesn't trust Janis. Nevertheless I think it is time to get him on the field now and give him some valuable playing time so that maybe he's up to speed entering the playoffs. Habing a deep threat in Janiary would go a long way towards winning in the playoffs.

    Capers have tried various different formations over the last few games with the players not executing. I know it's easier to blame only one guy but taking a closer look at the games it's the players not getting the job done.
     
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  11. Packerlifer

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    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm

    Aaron Rodgers is the only Packers player to rank in the league's top ten in any meaningful ways. A Rod is second in touchdown pass percentage (7.5), third in lowest interception rate (1.2%), 4th in passer rating (108.2) and in adjusted yds. per attempt (8.6) amd 5th in adjusted net yds. per attempt (7.7.)

    Rodgers is tied for third with 19 td passes, 10th in yds per pass attempt (7.7) and tenth in yards lost due to sacks (135.)

    James Jones is third in average yards per catch (20.1) and 7th in td receptions with 6.

    Mason Crosby is 9th with 22 extra points made.

    Quinten Rollins is one of 23 players in the league with an INT return for a td.
     
  12. Patriotplayer90

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    Rodgers is showing no trust that his receivers will get open or make a contested catch, or that his line will protect him. A guy like Janis should be there to take the top off a defense, not to keep them guessing with his pristine route running skills.

    He's shown nothing but effort on the field, and even if he does drop a deep ball, the defense will do more to cover him in the future if he was open.
     
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  13. captainWIMM

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    Rodgers wouldn't mind him dropping a ball as he's fine with physical mistakes to some degree but won't accept any mental errors.

    With Janis most likely not having the playbook down that's the reason he's not seeing the field.
     
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    I agree that's why he hasn't, but when you're 26th in offense from an offense at midseason with an offense that was expected to be top 5, it's time to try some other things. There's no way he shouldn't at least be able go run some simple post, vertical, and curl routes.
     
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  15. BearDroppings

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    Ugh, and I'm hoping the Viqueens don't win the superbowl. Their idiot fanbase would be even worse than they are now if that happens. Are we falling apart? Really? Capers needs to be fired.
     
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    Regarding special teams, I'd stay they are drastically improved due to not having blocked kicks and various breakdowns.
     
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  17. Packerlifer

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    Did any one notice "old" Charles Woodson is tied for the league lead in interceptions with 5?
     
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    Special Teams are absolutely improved. Kudos to Ron Zook and MM.
     
  19. ExpatPacker

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    Probably the one bright spot this season. That and I like our top 3 rookies: Demarius Randall and Ty Montgomery especially, and Quentin Rollins also looks decent. Montgomery and Rollins need to get healthy.
     
  20. Twiddlemylobes

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    I somewhat agree in seeing more of Janis but then my gut tells me better. I cant explain it but he looks scared out there. I mean it too, he lacks confidence IMO. The last player I saw with the same look of amazement in their face was Graham Harrell... He also looked literally frightened. I was scared watching him. Lol
    But maybe? Playing time is exactly the medicine Janis needs. Im not sure
     
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    While Montgomery will most likely miss his third game in a row vs. the Lions Rollins is probable for today's game.
     
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    Call it what you like, the lack of chemistry, achievement, confidence, whatever...the Packers 2015 version is just not playing up to its potential. Something is amiss with this team. Theories abound but meaningful solutions have yet to be discovered. To me, Eddie Lacy epitomizes the fat, dumb and lazy persona of a team just going through the motions this season. Whomever has their fingers on the switch needs to consider turning it "on" sometime soon. The W-L record is good. The play of late has not been. The needle has been pointed in the wrong direction. Champions play better than what we've been seeing.

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...elevate-their-game-b99614960z1-349262741.html
     
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  24. PackerDNA

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    Somebody needs to light a fire. This team needs to forget about all the doubts, and just go out and play the game. The rest will come.
     
  25. Carl

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    We are 6-2 and in good position for a first round bye. I'd say that counts as a big bright spot.
     

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