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Official Seattle thread

Discussion in 'Green Bay Packers Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Jan 11, 2015.

  1. Seattlehusker

    Seattlehusker Cheesehead

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    I don't think the coaching was that bad. Outside of going for it inside the 1yd line I don't think the play calling in the 2nd half was that bad. The players themselves appeared to let down. They lost the killer instinct that got them to the point of having their foot on Seattle's throat. It's like WWF match where the "bad" guy appears to nearly beat the "good" guy to death then turns his back to gloat. At that point the "good" guy collects himself enough to surprise the "bad" guy and kick the ever loving **** out of him to win.
     
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  2. tripleguy

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    Packers got predictable in the second half. Seattle stacked the line and we sent Lacy into it time and time again. One throw to a one-armed DB's side after Sherman got injured? Packers seemed unprepared for the fake field goal and were standing around watching the 2 point conversion drop from the sky. The defense played with aggression in the first half. They played not to lose in the second, especially in the last 5 minutes. Hopefully, Mike learned a big lesson yesterday.
     
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    That's what I hate about the WWF! It's not predictable ! :laugh:
     
  4. ivo610

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    You're one of the nitwits that thinks rodgers wouldn't command a top 3 offense if he had someone else?
     
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    McCarthy and the coaching staff had a great game plan going into the game and the Packers dominated the Seahawks for 55 minutes. I have no explanation for what happened in the last five minutes of the game but to blame it solely on the coaches doesn´t tell the entire story as a lot of players made mistakes during that period as well.
     
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    I personally feel the blame towards Bostick is overblown and the blame towards the coaching staff is under commented on ... this forum seems about right but other places seem to be all about blaming individual players
     
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    Exact
    Exactly
    Wow....No no I'm fine, this always happens when I'm peeling onions. Talk amongst yourselves...:)
     
  8. Mklangelo

    Mklangelo Feng Shui Debunker

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    McCarthy is squandering Rodgers greatness with his arrogant, weak game management.
     
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  9. JBlood

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    I'd say the last 7 minutes, and overtime were a combination of bad coaching and bad playing. Rogers said it best: “When you go back and think about it, at times we weren’t playing as aggressive as we usually are.” That's coaching. Add to that Burnett's lying down, Bostick's misplay, Dix's failure to knock down the 2 point conversion, a couple missed throws by Rogers and you have bad playing. I think Bostick made the right decision, he just muffed the catch. S#$t happens. Dix otherwise had a great game. Rogers played well enough to win. The defense certainly played well enough to win. We had the ball with 7 minutes to go--3 and out. We had the ball with 5:07 to go--3 and out. All we needed were a couple first downs. See Rogers' comment.

    We should be going for Championship #14. It's a shame.
     
  10. Mondio

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    everyone had their hand in this. We got conservative, and with a 2 score lead and how the defense was playing, well we know what "should" have happened. But Rodgers threw a pic in the endzone, he missed Jordy Nelson for a TD, He threw another pick intended for Cobb on a miscommunication. It's not like he didn't have his hand in the "squandering" that happened either. There's plenty of blame to go around on this one.
     
  11. Sea_Hawker

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    Hello all....

    First off, let me say I haven't had a chance to go through and catch up on all of this so if I'm repeating anything, I apologize.

    We watched the game from our vacation spot sitting next to a couple of Packers fans. Wonderful, nice people and were very gracious about what appeared to be a huge win for the Pack. Then the indescribable.

    I'm sure there's plenty of breakdown on all of this so I'll keep my thoughts brief. You had us absolutely outplayed for 55 minutes. You came into our house with a great plan and executed well throughout most of the game. I personally don't question the call to kick the field goals in the first half. MAYBE from the 1, going for it might have been ok but the way I see it, so many things had to fall into place for the Seahawks to pull out a miracle it's hard to believe they all did.

    With all that said, congrats on playing one hell of a game and a great season. I can't imagine the heartbreak on your end. Thank you so much for the hospitality! I hope our paths cross again.
     
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  12. Mklangelo

    Mklangelo Feng Shui Debunker

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    Granted but man, I think Sitton said it best and I'm paraphrasing here: We kicked their *** up and down the field. I'd have rather not even made the playoffs.

    Sorry, I'm planting this one squarely in MM's lap.
     
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    I've had time to reflect and calm down. To me, it now seems like we had a good plan to be aggressive and take it to them on offense and defense (coaching). But it's almost as if we had no plan to be up by a 2+ score margin with 5 minutes left to go. We didn't have a plan for sandlot desperation football and that's what beat us (coaching error). When Seattle started drawing up plays in the dirt, we were clueless (coaching). I can accept not being aggressive and risking points in the first half by kicking field goals. Hell, we were giving them smash mouth. But then in the second half we backed off a bit and when we were still in the lead with 5 to go, we failed (coaching). Did we not expect to be ahead? If we did, then what did we think they would do - play conventional football in the last 5 minutes? Line up not to block a field goal, but to defend against a pass. Get your best hands team on for the kickoff and make it clear - no one in front touches the ball. Go up and contest the alley-oop 2 point pass attempt. Sorry, while each player made a gross error in these situations, they were put in these situations by coaching.
     
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    Mklangelo Feng Shui Debunker

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    that pic you have for your avatar has me wondering about your sanity. Seriously.
     
  15. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    rodgers "said" that in the 4th q offense he and the line can change plays and protections..

    So if he is being honest, why didnt he change the plays?

    or is he being told to tow the company line
     
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    why is everyone all coaching or all players? They ALL had their hand in it. First things first, nobody is perfect, so if that's your expectation, GTFO as far as i'm concerned because you live in lala land. I'm sure there are plays called and situations that MM and his staff would like to do over. They weren't perfect, but even with not being perfect, this team was in position to win this game, and they didn't execute. I'm wondering if half of them were even on the field that last 5 minutes. They had this team coached up and ready to go into a place where not many teams have any success, let alone the success we were having against them for 3.5 quarters. The only coach I do feel deserves to go is Slocum. Our special teams have been erratic and a liability for 4-5 years now and they were woefully unprepared for this game.

    and onto the players, they aren't perfect either. There were a lot of things that had to go wrong at the end of that game and they all did. Everyone from Rodgers, to Nelson and Burnett, and Dix and Bostick and everyone else left more than a play or two on that field that would have sealed that victory and they didn't. I can't believe are seriously blaming coaching when they had Wilson running for his life on that 2 point and he threw up an absolute prayer that Dix watched get answered. All they had to do was execute. I'm not going to rehash every play, you know the ones that were left unmade.
     
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    Oh No Oh No don't you be giving no credit to the Seachickens (or is it Seahags I can' t keep them straight) on this one. They didn't do nothin to win this one. In fact they didn't even win it. We lost it. In fact I think I'm gonna count this one as a win just like the fail Mary game. Yup, we won. In fact, they didn't even have to come out of the locker room at half time we probably would have given the game away anyway

    They didn't keep us from scoring 24 points in the first half, we failed to score 24 points in the first half. They had nothing to do with it. They didn't score on a fake field goal we gave them 6 points on the fake field goal. Wilson? Lynch? did they really score those TDs? Nope, we let them score. Did they really recover an onside Kick? Nope we let them recover an onside kick. Did they really score a 2 point conversion? No, we let them score a 2 point conversion, OK on that one maybe we did let them but you get my point.

    Everyone is talking shoulda coulda woulda and no one is giving the Seahawks any credit. I know that if all those things, heck if even one of those things, would have gone our way the outcome probably would have been different but the reality is the Seahawks did have a lot to do with the Packers only scoring 16 in the first half. MM decision to go for three no doubt had something to do with the fact that they had stopped us a couple of times already. They had a lot to do with keeping the score within reach so they could take advantage of our mistakes in the end. As many have pointed out it could have been and maybe even should have been a blowout in our favor and despite the bad things that happened against us you can't deny that the Seahawks had players on the field playing against us. Granted their being in a position to beat us had something to do with the way we played but it had a lot to do with the way they played as well.

    Obviously my first two paragraphs were tongue in cheek but they are not far off from what I have been reading from some fans. Damn right you have to admire them for not folding in the second half and I think you have to admire them somewhat for the way the performed , the defense anyway, in the first half to hold us to 16 points
     
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    and so would I and if you were smart so would you.
     
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    Darn it Carl why do you have to go and spoil everyone's fun. You know complaining and blaming just isn't the same when you let facts get in the way.
     
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    I believe him that he does

    The personel they gave him was not able to put together a quality pass play if you look at who was on the field. He would of had to make substitutions. Also, towing the company line
     
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    The blowouts came against teams ranging from marginal to garbage.
     
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    We've outplayed this team on their own field 2 out of 3 times and have nothing to show for it. I'm really, really looking forward to kicking their a$$es in Lambeau next season. See you then.
     
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    Speaking of taking time during the game to gloat, it was brought to my attention that Mathews wasn't even playing for the last 5 or 6 mins of regulation, and didn't come back into the game until OT...does anyone know why he wasn't playing?
     
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    There ya go, letting facts get in the way...
     
  25. dbain21

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    See the "Where was Clay Matthews" thread
     

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