NFC Norris Battle

[Poppa San]

If it is an ACL I don't see the Vikings having the horse power to win the division.

Sure, just trade for Peterson. He's just sitting on the bench in NO waiting for someone to save him from the boredom and see his true potential.

 

[XPack]

No way a given for us to win North. Lions are looking pretty solid even if unspectacular. They're there for the long run imo.

 

[rodell330]

No way a given for us to win North. Lions are looking pretty solid even if unspectacular. They're there for the long run imo.

Lol just give it a few weeks. They will implode.

 

[swhitset]

They didn't last year.... We had to beat them in the last game of the season to win the division.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

They didn't last year.... We had to beat them in the last game of the season to win the division.

Well, the Lions lost the last three games of the regular season and were once again one and done in the playoffs though.

 

[Mondio]

Sooner or later that stink and childlike antics left over from Schwartz will eventually wear off. The Lions have been talented for a couple years now, this year is no different. is this the year the funky stink from Schwartz wears is shook?

 

[swhitset]

Well, the Lions lost the last three games of the regular season and were once again one and done in the playoffs though.

Those last 3 games were against playoff teams ... The 11-5 Giants, the 13-3 Cowboys and, the Packers. As I recall, they were competitive in those games. I would hardly call losing to those teams "imploding". Nobody here has said the Lions are a Super Bowl team, but overlooking them by assuming that they will implode is foolish.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Those last 3 games were against playoff teams ... The 11-5 Giants, the 13-3 Cowboys and, the Packers as I recall, they were competitive in those games. I would hardly call losing to those teams "imploding". Nobody here has said the Lions are a Super Bowl team, but overlooking them by assuming that they will implode is foolish.

I agree the Lions are a talented team but in my opinion won't threaten the Packers for the division crown this season. While Detroit played good teams at the end of 2016 there's no denying they didn't get the job done over their last four games.

 

[rodell330]

They didn't last year.... We had to beat them in the last game of the season to win the division.

Ye, but they had like a two or three game lead on us before Rodgers went "Run The Table".

 

[MichiganSportsTalk]

Those last 3 games were against playoff teams ... The 11-5 Giants, the 13-3 Cowboys and, the Packers. As I recall, they were competitive in those games. I would hardly call losing to those teams "imploding". Nobody here has said the Lions are a Super Bowl team, but overlooking them by assuming that they will implode is foolish.

Not to mention that Stafford tore the ligaments in his middle finger of his throwing hand against Chicago before those 3 games. That fact always seems to get omitted when people talk about the end of the Lions 2016 season.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Ye, but they had like a two or three game lead on us before Rodgers went "Run The Table".

I still vividly remember them falling apart in 2013 when the Packers were without Rodgers for eight games that season as well.

 

[swhitset]

I still vividly remember them falling apart in 2013 when the Packers were without Rodgers for eight games that season as well.

I think we all know that the Lions have a history of doing that.... but 2013 was a long time ago... and the Lions have looked like pretty solid team since the beginning of last season.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I think we all know that the Lions have a history of doing that.... but 2013 was a long time ago... and the Lions have looked like pretty solid team since the beginning of last season.

I understand that 2013 is a long time ago. The Lions haven't proven to be capable of winning big games since Stafford became their starter though having compiled only a 7-53 (.117, ranking 31st in the league) against teams that finished the season above .500.

 

[PackAttack12]

I understand that 2013 is a long time ago. The Lions haven't proven to be capable of winning big games since Stafford became their starter though having compiled only a 7-53 (.117, ranking 31st in the league) against teams that finished the season above .500.

That is such a remarkably telling statistic. I couldn't believe it when it was mentioned a few weeks ago somewhere on TV.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

That is such a remarkably telling statistic. I couldn't believe it when it was mentioned a few weeks ago somewhere on TV.

FYI the Packers are third with a 27-27 (.500) over the same period.

 

[RRyder]

FYI the Packers are third with a 27-27 (.500) over the same period.

Curious on where the Pats fall in that regard?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Curious on where the Pats fall in that regard?

Not surprisingly the Patriots are #1 in the league with a .600 winning percentage. Here's the entire list:

1 Patriots 30-20 (.600)
2 Steelers 29-24 (.547)
3 Packers 27-27 (.500)
4 Broncos 27-33 (.450)
5 Seahawks 24-31 (.436)
6 Saints 23-31 (.426)
7 Colts 25-36 (.410)
8 Cardinals 21-32-1 (.398)
9 Falcons 21-32 (.396)
10 Bengals 23-37-1 (.385)
11 Cowboys 22-36 (.379)
12 Eagles 19-34 (.358)
13 Ravens 21-38 (356)
14 Chiefs 18-34 (.346)
15 Texans 20-39 (.339)
16 Chargers 18-38 (.321)
17 Dolphins 18-39 (.316)
18 49ers 19-42 (.311)
19 Vikings 17-42-1 (.292)
20 Panthers 17-44-1 (.282)
21 Raiders 17-44 (.279)
22 Giants 16-42 (.276)
23 Redskins 14-39 (.264)
24 Rams 15-48-1 (.242)
25 Jets 12-38 (.240)
26 Bears 15-50 (.231)
27 Titans 14-48 (.226)
28 Bills 13-47 (.217)
29 Buccaneers 11-44 (.200)
30 Jaguars 8-55 (.127)
31 Lions 7-53 (.117)
32 Browns 7-61 (.103)

 

[gbgary]

trubisky is on the lose now. the bears will have something to say now about who wins the norris. min losing cook for the year is a big blow to them. the nfc east and north may be the most competitive in the conference.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

trubisky is on the lose now. the bears will have something to say now about who wins the norris. min losing cook for the year is a big blow to them. the nfc east and north may be the most competitive in the conference.

I highly doubt the Bears starting Trubisky going forward will result in them turning into a contender in the North this season.

 

[gbgary]

I highly doubt the Bears starting Trubisky going forward will result in them turning into a contender in the North this season.

didn't say that specifically. said they'd have "something to say" about who wins the north. them pulling off a win or two against det or the Packers could mess up some plans.

 

[XPack]

I highly doubt the Bears starting Trubisky going forward will result in them turning into a contender in the North this season.

But it'll be an automatic upgrade from the dumpster fire that is Glennon...at least on paper.

I agree the Lions are a talented team but in my opinion won't threaten the Packers for the division crown this season.

They have consistently been upgrading their team. Good ground attack, good safeties, good TEs...they are actually a decent QB away from being a genuine challenger.

 

[PackAttack12]

Not surprisingly the Patriots are #1 in the league with a .600 winning percentage. Here's the entire list:

1 Patriots 30-20 (.600)
2 Steelers 29-24 (.547)
3 Packers 27-27 (.500)
4 Broncos 27-33 (.450)
5 Seahawks 24-31 (.436)
6 Saints 23-31 (.426)
7 Colts 25-36 (.410)
8 Cardinals 21-32-1 (.398)
9 Falcons 21-32 (.396)
10 Bengals 23-37-1 (.385)
11 Cowboys 22-36 (.379)
12 Eagles 19-34 (.358)
13 Ravens 21-38 (356)
14 Chiefs 18-34 (.346)
15 Texans 20-39 (.339)
16 Chargers 18-38 (.321)
17 Dolphins 18-39 (.316)
18 49ers 19-42 (.311)
19 Vikings 17-42-1 (.292)
20 Panthers 17-44-1 (.282)
21 Raiders 17-44 (.279)
22 Giants 16-42 (.276)
23 Redskins 14-39 (.264)
24 Rams 15-48-1 (.242)
25 Jets 12-38 (.240)
26 Bears 15-50 (.231)
27 Titans 14-48 (.226)
28 Bills 13-47 (.217)
29 Buccaneers 11-44 (.200)
30 Jaguars 8-55 (.127)
31 Lions 7-53 (.117)
32 Browns 7-61 (.103)

The bottom part of that list is a huge indictment on Matthew Stafford.

 

[Dantés]

But it'll be an automatic upgrade from the dumpster fire that is Glennon...at least on paper.



They have consistently been upgrading their team. Good ground attack, good safeties, good TEs...they are actually a decent QB away from being a genuine challenger.

Wait... what? We're talking about the Lions right? Good ground attack? Safeties? Tight ends?

Their QB is far and away the best thing they have going for them.

I'm confused.

 

[Dantés]

The bottom part of that list is a huge indictment on Matthew Stafford.

I think it's a huge indictment of the Detroit Lions.

But that list is clearly incorrect. I've been told many times that the Packers can't beat the good teams.

 

[rodell330]

Wait... what? We're talking about the Lions right? Good ground attack? Safeties? Tight ends?

Their QB is far and away the best thing they have going for them.

I'm confused.

I think he was referring to the Bears. None the less...Stafford is the most overrated player in the NFC North. He's good not great. His record speaks for itself.