Good Bye J’aire Alexander

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As a Bears fan, I have mixed emotions about this too because I definitely liked his being a drain on your cap space but then again when fully healthy the guy is a top-tier cornerback......
I don't know I kind of feel like we're gonna go through the same thing with Jaquan brisker over the next year or two.
He got a concussion I think week five or six last year and missed the whole rest of the season.......
He's a great great SS when healthy..... but this is a violent sport and I think one good knock against his head and he's going to have to either sit out the year or retire because I don't want to see the guy have long-term effects because he kept getting knocked in the head......
So again, I will hope for the best, but we need to plan for the worst and I think we're gonna be in the same position with him that you guys are with Alexander....or were.........
Ex Packers always go to the Vikings first, Lions second and then the Bears third. Get ready to see Alexander playing for the Vikings or Lions
 

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I find the timing of the release odd. Why not wait until training camp to see if a team is desperate to trade for a CB after an injury? Gute played right into the hands of the Vikings and Lions who will probably sign Alexander within days. Alexander likely had offers in his back pocket from the rest of the division giving him all the leverage right now. There's a reason why Alexander didn't resign with the Packers. He probably has offers under his sleeve. Gute got played by Alexander.
 

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"Get ready to see Alexander playing for the Vikings or Lions"

Excellent, just keep running our 220lbs+ RB's at him & they'll rack up 10+ ypc! Alexander won't risk another shoulder injury trying to take them on, so JA is now a turnstile cover-only CB.
 

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I find the timing of the release odd. Why not wait until training camp to see if a team is desperate to trade for a CB after an injury? Gute played right into the hands of the Vikings and Lions who will probably sign Alexander within days. Alexander likely had offers in his back pocket from the rest of the division giving him all the leverage right now. There's a reason why Alexander didn't resign with the Packers. He probably has offers under his sleeve. Gute got played by Alexander.

He didn't need to resign.

I don't think you understood the situation with Jaire.
 
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I wouldn't say poor, I would say no all pro present and valid to say unproven for sure. But poor...I just don't see it.

Last year some of our toughest matchups against passing attacks where we did well:

Rams - Week 6
No Jaire - Stafford went 15 of 26 for 224 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT. Not a spectacular day but solid against a very good QB.

Now...to be fair that is it really (bet everyone thought this post was going to be only positive spin LOL). Many of our best games came against teams that had starting QB out or really the Seattle game is also a solid one as Geno didn't go down until late and our secondary had really limited Geno and that massively deadly passing game prior to him going down.

But Darnold...tore us up efficiently...Goff also even the game we held him to such a low number of yards didn't matter because efficiency was off the charts.


Now of course last year it was mainly Valentine and Nixon with Stokes next man up.....this year will be Valentine / Nixon and Hobbs most would assume as the main three. Arguably I think it is safe to assume that group is NOT going to be worse than it was last year. Hobbs versatility seems to fit Hafley's system very well...Valentine has become a better player constantly in his career and could be working towards a breakout...and Nixon...well I pray with all my might that I'm wrong that he never should be a starter. After those three though we got unproven King, Hadden and other late round flyers or such too....

Everyone knows I was a fan at this point of just eating the Jaire cost and taking him when he can play....but I also understand moving on. Now what I don't want is Gute to just ignore the market without some calls...call up Rasul Douglas and discuss numbers...even Gilmore....find out where they are and weigh the options. I think either at the right price would make a ton of sense and neither would IMO limit the growth of guys because as we all know MOST teams have three CBs that play a TON and a fourth that see the field a LOT.
Yes. My thoughts align with that. We just got our Cap straight with this post June release. This was part strategy. We’d be fine anywhere under the $7.5Mil per year area to add a RELIABLE player. Not to say I’m eager to spend it either. I’d poke around for someone in the $3-6Mil area that can if nothing else fill out depth if we lose a player (or two). I would not exceed $7Mil area period. Meaning at most that’s out guaranteed amount.

Again it’s hard to say we’re better, yet if we go look JA played 6 games last season. I don’t count the Bears he took 10 snaps with 0-0-0 stats that’s not contributing. We lost a very good 6 game starter. That it. He was ineffective for our 12 contests last year. Not good. Matter of fact one could argue his unavailability for 2/3 of of the 2024 season caused us wasted efficiency or tying up other resources. He effectively played 1/3 of our season give or take. I think he’s a cool dude but that doesn’t = high contributions either. We need someone who has a substantially better track record of available, JA is too risky in a year you need high floor high reliability. Plus we just freed up one ice tub!
Ouch!
I love Jaire but this wasn’t good for our team and I can appreciate he’s got to look out for himself. We’ve got entire Roster of mouths to feed and their families I think that’s more important than any 1 player.
 
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He didn't need to resign.

I don't think you understood the situation with Jaire.
Jaire didn't need to resign. That's just what I wrote that he had all the leverage this time of year.

Packers could've cut him in training camp just as well as yesterday. The difference is that an injury could've prompted a trade. Now Jaire is going to run to a division team unless some GM out there gets stupid.

If the Packers waited until training camp and a team came forward with a trade scenario, Gute could've used that to get Jaire to restructure, cut him or trade. All three options are available at that point. Let's say that team was a bottom dweller like the Clowns. Jaire would probably want to avoid a trade and start to negotiate.
 

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I find the timing of the release odd. Why not wait until training camp to see if a team is desperate to trade for a CB after an injury? Gute played right into the hands of the Vikings and Lions who will probably sign Alexander within days. Alexander likely had offers in his back pocket from the rest of the division giving him all the leverage right now. There's a reason why Alexander didn't resign with the Packers. He probably has offers under his sleeve. Gute got played by Alexander.
I'm not sure but prob a roster bonus or something that's probably fast approaching....... just a guess but I honestly have no idea....
 
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I find the timing of the release odd. Why not wait until training camp to see if a team is desperate to trade for a CB after an injury? Gute played right into the hands of the Vikings and Lions who will probably sign Alexander within days. Alexander likely had offers in his back pocket from the rest of the division giving him all the leverage right now. There's a reason why Alexander didn't resign with the Packers. He probably has offers under his sleeve. Gute got played by Alexander.
No. The post June Option was an advantage for GB. So much so they paid him another $750K or whatever at the opening day of 2024.

Not to mention if he’s cut the later it takes him to sign with a competitor the better. Time is always a key asset it’s often even more valuable than $$$. We will never offer someone something more valuable than our time. The Lord taught me that one btw
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“time is $$” or “timing is everything” those are long ago established principles.

Time was absolutely not in Jaires Favor on this one. He’s looking for a job and many teams are already comfortable in their CB room.
 
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Jaire didn't need to resign. That's just what I wrote that he had all the leverage this time of year.

Packers could've cut him in training camp just as well as yesterday. The difference is that an injury could've prompted a trade. Now Jaire is going to run to a division team unless some GM out there gets stupid.

If the Packers waited until training camp and a team came forward with a trade scenario, Gute could've used that to get Jaire to restructure, cut him or trade. All three options are available at that point. Let's say that team was a bottom dweller like the Clowns. Jaire would probably want to avoid a trade and start to negotiate.
I think the Packers just wanted this all done before camp started. They didn't want anything possibly lingering in the lockerroom.
 

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No. The post June Option was an advantage for GB. So much so they paid him another $750K or whatever at the opening day of 2024.

Not to mention if he’s cut the later it takes him to sign with a competitor the better. Time is always a key asset it’s often even more valuable than $$$. We will never offer someone something more valuable than our time. The Lord taught me that one btw
I didn’t coin @
“time is $$” or “timing is everything” those are long ago established principles.

Time was absolutely not in Jaires Favor on this one. He’s looking for a job and many teams are already comfortable in their CB room.
Jaire is free to sign with anybody and most likely that team will be a top contender. He knows he can sign for more than what was probably offered in a restructure.
 

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Jaire didn't need to resign. That's just what I wrote that he had all the leverage this time of year.

Packers could've cut him in training camp just as well as yesterday. The difference is that an injury could've prompted a trade. Now Jaire is going to run to a division team unless some GM out there gets stupid.

If the Packers waited until training camp and a team came forward with a trade scenario, Gute could've used that to get Jaire to restructure, cut him or trade. All three options are available at that point. Let's say that team was a bottom dweller like the Clowns. Jaire would probably want to avoid a trade and start to negotiate.

Unless the Packers were going to get a trade option they couldn't refuse, fiscally post June 1st was the clear fiscal advantage in a massive way. I fully expect for the Packers side of things - it was confirmed they offered him a restructure with incentives to get pretty high...we all will likely never know but gotta wonder if he gets more elsewhere...
 

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Jaire was a willing tackler in the run game early in his career. He mixed that with elite coverage skills. Unfortunately, it led to the shoulder injury as well as others.

As for our current stable of CBs, don't fool yourselves. We have a poor crop of players there. We will get abused and it will certainly be the reason that this is not a championship season (please re-post this late in the evening of 2/14/2026). The only thing that can save our defense is elite play from everybody else and Hafley. A strong pass rush can make even mediocre CBs look good. Unfortunately our pass rush was also a weakness last season. Things aren't looking good, but as I typed this the sun broke through the clouds. It could be a sign....or just how things work.
Hobbs may excel in GB, much as McKinney did. The Giants and Raiders don't have great systems. Hopefully the change will have the same impact on Hobbs that it did on McKinney.

I agree that the CB group and the pass rush don't give cause for optimism. With the schedule they have, we'll know soon enough what they can do.
 

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Unless the Packers were going to get a trade option they couldn't refuse, fiscally post June 1st was the clear fiscal advantage in a massive way. I fully expect for the Packers side of things - it was confirmed they offered him a restructure with incentives to get pretty high...we all will likely never know but gotta wonder if he gets more elsewhere...
It sure appears that the Packers aren't too concerned if Jaire signs with a contender. Guys that miss almost two years aren't good bets to turn their career around so it might all be moot if Jaire can't stay healthy. The nightmare scenario is that he goes to the Vikings or Lions on a cheap deal and returns to pro bowl form.
 

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The best part about replacing Alexander is Bo Melton running with the CB's today.
 

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It sure appears that the Packers aren't too concerned if Jaire signs with a contender. Guys that miss almost two years aren't good bets to turn their career around so it might all be moot if Jaire can't stay healthy. The nightmare scenario is that he goes to the Vikings or Lions on a cheap deal and returns to pro bowl form.

IF Jaire can play a season healthy he's a top 5 guy - I have been in that firmly myself.

ALSO update everyone it has been confirmed the Packers elected to NOT spread the cap as you can post June 1st style...they are taking the whole $17M hit or so now.

This IMO means one of these things are likely:

- GB was very confident that Jaire was going to be willing to work with them and their deal was fair...but Jaire the whole time was done with them.
- GB was willing to just keep him and play but Jaire was done and informed them he wanted out clean...
- Jaire or GB thought they had a trade partner and it just never crystalized and eventually fell through....
 

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- GB was very confident that Jaire was going to be willing to work with them and their deal was fair...but Jaire the whole time was done with them.
- GB was willing to just keep him and play but Jaire was done and informed them he wanted out clean...
- Jaire or GB thought they had a trade partner and it just never crystalized and eventually fell through....
Highly, highly doubt there were any teams lining up to pay $34.3mil over next 2 years AND hand over a draft pick for that right. Imho, odds are 80% in the 1st situation (fair deal, JA wanted to be done), 20% #2 GB willing to pay, JA wanted clean break).

The players know GB is currently over the '26 cap, & that vet cuts/restructures are coming. JA saw '25 as the better time to try to land a 2-3 yr deal.
 

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Hobbs may excel in GB, much as McKinney did. The Giants and Raiders don't have great systems.
The difference is, in McKinney's free agent year, he was one of the top 5 safeties in the league - playing with the Giants.

Hobbs is a good to above average CB, with a lifetime completion percentage of 75% and a lifetime passer rating of 102. He may well improve here, but he's starting with a floor a lot lower than McKinney's was.
 

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That's pretty f****** pathetic for a team that runs its mouth about being a super bowl container all the time krabs. Meant to give you a quote but I screwed it up
 

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That's pretty f****** pathetic for a team that runs its mouth about being a super bowl container all the time krabs. Meant to give you a quote but I screwed it up
Well, his brother's a corner. btw did he make a nfl team?
 

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Well, his brother's a corner. btw did he make a nfl team?
Yes, he was a mid-2nd round pick for the Cardinals last year, and he played very well in his rookie season. Had a rough October, but he appears to be a fast learner, and by the end of the season most people in Arizona thought he was the best rookie in his class.
 
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The best part about replacing Alexander is Bo Melton running with the CB's today.
Probably his best shot at making this Roster. I said earlier that I think him and Heath both could miss the WR cut. This move to CB is just one more glimpse of that thought being reinforced.
First of all. Nixon stated he didn’t want to resume Return duties as he needed to concentrate on CB (it’s obviously in his best interest $$ wise in the future to stay at CB). I don’t blame him if he wants a lucrative contract it’s not generated from Teams.

Secondly with Alexander gone we can’t afford to risk unnecessary injury to Nixon returning Kicks imo. I think it would extremely unwise to have our starting perimeter CB playing Return guy. Good way to turn him into Khylin Hill.

That leaves options like Golden, Savion or Hardman. Before anyone laughs at the Golden comment. He was just returning Punts in OTAs with Nate Hobbs I believe out front of him if memory serves. That’s a hard memory to make go away. I don’t like this at all. Especially when we have Mecole Hardman in house. It’s almost irresponsible if we expect Golden to be earning his keep at PR imo. Someone needs to rethink that dumb idea. Unless it’s Postseason and the last drive of the game to tie or Win, Golden needs no part in that conversation
 

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> Especially when we have Mecole Hardman in house

That could be an indication that Hardman is on the bubble and is seen as a camp-body.

> Unless it’s Postseason and the last drive of the game to tie or Win, Golden needs no part in that conversation

I'd rather not have any returner only return when the pressure is on. I'd prefer them practiced.
 

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No Jaire - Stafford went 15 of 26 for 224 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT. Not a spectacular day but solid against a very good QB.
Let's also remember that the Rams & Stafford didn't have their top receivers - Puka Nacua or Cooper Kupp - in that game. So that should put a better perspective on how "well" we did without Jaire in that game.
 

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Yes, he was a mid-2nd round pick for the Cardinals last year, and he played very well in his rookie season. Had a rough October, but he appears to be a fast learner, and by the end of the season most people in Arizona thought he was the best rookie in his class.

Good to know - I hope his brother can duplicate at least some of that.

Melton's path to a roster spot is probably easier as a corner that as a receiver right now.
 

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