Good Bye J’aire Alexander

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I think he should also ask to get reps at returner....if he can illustrate the ability to continue being a good teams guy on coverage units, emergency depth at WR and CB...plus returner you begin to struggle more cutting him.

As a WR and coverage teams only I am cutting him all weeklong...
 

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With Golden as a lock, the similar - sized speedy Melton is now a longshot to make the roster as a WR but maybe not at CB. As a CB can he beat out Nixon, Valentine, or Hobbs? No, but the rest of the CB room is underwhelming if you consider Bullard to be a safety.

The CB room is so thin, that Melton's odds to make the team are just as good as the rest of the cast-offs at CB. Any injuries to the top 3 CB's and the team won't be able to beat an elite QB come playoff time. It'll be the typical one and done with the predictable glaring lack of depth at CB.
 

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With Golden as a lock, the similar - sized speedy Melton is now a longshot to make the roster as a WR but maybe not at CB. As a CB can he beat out Nixon, Valentine, or Hobbs? No, but the rest of the CB room is underwhelming if you consider Bullard to be a safety.

The CB room is so thin, that Melton's odds to make the team are just as good as the rest of the cast-offs at CB. Any injuries to the top 3 CB's and the team won't be able to beat an elite QB come playoff time. It'll be the typical one and done with the predictable glaring lack of depth at CB.
If, as you say, everyone except the top 3 CB's are "castoffs" then I've got to imagine there is considerable talent languishing in other teams' camps. I hope Gute, then, is extremely active either trading 7th's or hitting the waiver wire over the next 3 months bolstering the CB depth. Same applies to Edge Rushers... some teams would be much more stacked & need to cut talent.
 

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As a Bears fan, I have mixed emotions about this too because I definitely liked his being a drain on your cap space but then again when fully healthy the guy is a top-tier cornerback......
I don't know I kind of feel like we're gonna go through the same thing with Jaquan brisker over the next year or two.
He got a concussion I think week five or six last year and missed the whole rest of the season.......
He's a great great SS when healthy..... but this is a violent sport and I think one good knock against his head and he's going to have to either sit out the year or retire because I don't want to see the guy have long-term effects because he kept getting knocked in the head......
So again, I will hope for the best, but we need to plan for the worst and I think we're gonna be in the same position with him that you guys are with Alexander....or were.........
Chances are that he does not suddenly stay healthy. He does not help the Packers by watching our games on TV. The team has been playing without him most of the time. They are so used to it. The difference is that they do not have to wonder whether he will play any longer.
 

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I find the timing of the release odd. Why not wait until training camp to see if a team is desperate to trade for a CB after an injury? Gute played right into the hands of the Vikings and Lions who will probably sign Alexander within days. Alexander likely had offers in his back pocket from the rest of the division giving him all the leverage right now. There's a reason why Alexander didn't resign with the Packers. He probably has offers under his sleeve. Gute got played by Alexander.
Unfortunately, the Packers did not get much play from Alexander.
 

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Jaire didn't need to resign. That's just what I wrote that he had all the leverage this time of year.

Packers could've cut him in training camp just as well as yesterday. The difference is that an injury could've prompted a trade. Now Jaire is going to run to a division team unless some GM out there gets stupid.

If the Packers waited until training camp and a team came forward with a trade scenario, Gute could've used that to get Jaire to restructure, cut him or trade. All three options are available at that point. Let's say that team was a bottom dweller like the Clowns. Jaire would probably want to avoid a trade and start to negotiate.
IMO JA is a bad fit for a bottom feeder team. The top tier teams are the ones who may take a shot at signing him IMO.
 

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The difference is, in McKinney's free agent year, he was one of the top 5 safeties in the league - playing with the Giants.

Hobbs is a good to above average CB, with a lifetime completion percentage of 75% and a lifetime passer rating of 102. He may well improve here, but he's starting with a floor a lot lower than McKinney's was.
Not a great injury history either.
 

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If, as you say, everyone except the top 3 CB's are "castoffs" then I've got to imagine there is considerable talent languishing in other teams' camps. I hope Gute, then, is extremely active either trading 7th's or hitting the waiver wire over the next 3 months bolstering the CB depth. Same applies to Edge Rushers... some teams would be much more stacked & need to cut talent.

I would disagree that same can be said about edge rushers...we have three guys arguably more proven at edge position than both Valentine and Nixon are at outside Corner...and dependable on Hobbs to; that is Gary, Enagbare and LVN. Then we have Cox who is of a similar vein as Valentine, really started showing out for part of last year that something is there. That's 4 deep and then factor in Sorrell was added and Oliver who is that edge/off ball LB hybrid offering.

While I would for sure embrace any edge that perhaps elevates our room but CB is for sure the most unproven room in our whole organization.
 

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If, as you say, everyone except the top 3 CB's are "castoffs" then I've got to imagine there is considerable talent languishing in other teams' camps. I hope Gute, then, is extremely active either trading 7th's or hitting the waiver wire over the next 3 months bolstering the CB depth. Same applies to Edge Rushers... some teams would be much more stacked & need to cut talent.
Here is the list of cast-offs at CB after Hobbs, Nixon and Valentine on the 90-man roster.

Jonathan Baldwin
Isaiah Dunn
Kamal Hadden
Tyron Herring
Kalen King
Micah Robinsin

A bunch of UDFA and 7th round picks. It's going to get ugly real fast if any of those guys need to take meaningful snaps due to injuries. Scary thing is due to the lack of depth, some of those guys will need to make the 53-man roster even if they show very little in camp.

While Gute should add guys who get cut or claimed off the practice squad, the chances of lightning striking twice by finding another Rasul Douglas is slim
 

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Now that Alexander is gone, the Savion Williams pick in round 3 looks like a luxury given the glaring lack of depth behind Nixon, Valentine and Hobbs. While I think if Hobbs can move between the slot and the outside, the Packers could accommodate a single injury to either Nixon or Valentine by moving Bullard into the slot. Anything more than that and it's feast time for the opposing QB.
 

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Now that Alexander is gone, the Savion Williams pick in round 3 looks like a luxury given the glaring lack of depth behind Nixon, Valentine and Hobbs. While I think if Hobbs can move between the slot and the outside, the Packers could accommodate a single injury to either Nixon or Valentine by moving Bullard into the slot. Anything more than that and it's feast time for the opposing QB.
I do not believe the Packers are done adding to the CB position. They likely will make a move during preseason or right after the cuts. And it may be another veteran or two. Gute will be eyeful even during the regular season.
 

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Here is the list of cast-offs at CB after Hobbs, Nixon and Valentine on the 90-man roster.

Jonathan Baldwin
Isaiah Dunn
Kamal Hadden
Tyron Herring
Kalen King
Micah Robinsin

A bunch of UDFA and 7th round picks. It's going to get ugly real fast if any of those guys need to take meaningful snaps due to injuries. Scary thing is due to the lack of depth, some of those guys will need to make the 53-man roster even if they show very little in camp.

While Gute should add guys who get cut or claimed off the practice squad, the chances of lightning striking twice by finding another Rasul Douglas is slim
Slim but still possible.
 

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I do not believe the Packers are done adding to the CB position. They likely will make a move during preseason or right after the cuts. And it may be another veteran or two. Gute will be eyeful even during the regular season.
Sure they will probably take a flier on more cast-offs but the chances of finding a diamond like Rasul Douglas are very very slim. The CB room looks to be scary thin heading into the season.
 

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IMO JA is a bad fit for a bottom feeder team. The top tier teams are the ones who may take a shot at signing him IMO.
I was surprised the Packers opted to take the cap hit all in 2025. It frees them in 2026. And it may be that 2026 is the year Gute and MLF believe that will be the season to make a serious SB run and they will go all out then.
 
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Here is the list of cast-offs at CB after Hobbs, Nixon and Valentine on the 90-man roster.

Jonathan Baldwin
Isaiah Dunn
Kamal Hadden
Tyron Herring
Kalen King
Micah Robinsin

A bunch of UDFA and 7th round picks. It's going to get ugly real fast if any of those guys need to take meaningful snaps due to injuries. Scary thing is due to the lack of depth, some of those guys will need to make the 53-man roster even if they show very little in camp.

While Gute should add guys who get cut or claimed off the practice squad, the chances of lightning striking twice by finding another Rasul Douglas is slim
On the face value id agree with you.
I still think you’re underestimating our FO though.
We’ve known for months that there was a very realistic chance JA might not be part of our plans. We have the the 3 C’s
Capacity
Capability
Capital
 
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According to Packers Wire we now have $35.5Mil in Cap space in 2025. That’s after they projected we would assume JA full Cap hit now

Only 4 teams in the NFL have more than $1Mil or more in Capital space above where GB currently stands in 2025 ($35.5Mil) “OTC”
Patriots, 49ers, Lions, Jets

Only the Jets on that above list have a higher open combined Cap over 2025-2026 ($75mil to our $53mil). SF49ers sit about dead even +-(‘25-‘26) with GB We’re still barely behind the top 10 Cap dogs.. Raiders, Chargers, Steelers, Titans, Rams, Commanders. Colts, Seahawks, Bengals and Maybe maybe the Bucs. That still puts us back into the Top 1/3 of the league in Cap factoring 2025-2026.

I say this because Were fine to go out and sign a reasonable CB if desired ($5-10Mil) Especially if we do a 2yr deal and spread some of the love.
 
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Much like Greg Jennings Sister, another family member throwing in their 2 cents worth about the Packers. JA's Dad crying about "no guaranteed money" being offered to JA in a restructure. Uuuuummmm.....hate to inform you..."DAD" but your son got a butt load of guaranteed bonus money ALREADY, $30M to be exact. THAT deal was supposed to run another 2 years, so you thinking he should get MORE guaranteed money.....is really ignorant and bias. BTW, DAD, your son's contract WOULD have guaranteed itself once he is on the 53 man roster in Sept.

JA's Dad is trying to paint his son the victim of the Packers trying to pay him chump change. Give us the Numbers....DAD. I bet with what they were offering in base contract + incentives and the portion of the unearned guaranteed contract bonus money, was not chump change. Unless of course, you think your kid deserves money for not playing?

Sit down and STFU....DAD! Oh...and Happy Bias Fathers Day

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Much like Greg Jennings Sister, another family member throwing in their 2 cents worth about the Packers. JA's Dad crying about "no guaranteed money" being offered to JA in a restructure. Uuuuummmm.....hate to inform you..."DAD" but your son got a butt load of guaranteed bonus money ALREADY, $30M to be exact. THAT deal was supposed to run another 2 years, so you thinking he should get MORE guaranteed money.....is really ignorant and bias. BTW, DAD, your son's contract WOULD have guaranteed itself once he is on the 53 man roster in Sept.

JA's Dad is trying to paint his son the victim of the Packers trying to pay him chump change. Give us the Numbers....DAD. I bet with what they were offering in base contract + incentives and the portion of the unearned guaranteed contract bonus money, was not chump change. Unless of course, you think your kid deserves money for not playing?

Sit down and STFU....DAD! Oh...and Happy Bias Fathers Day

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No team wants to guarantee more money. It is a business. And you have to make your hay when the zodiac is in your corner. Lombardi had to part with Jim Ringo and Jim Taylor before the days of free agency because he knew if he had to pay THOSE future HOFERS he would have to pay a lot of others. But at the same time he had to sign both draft picks, Jim Grabowski and Donny Anderson to contracts equal to 10-20 times that of many on the Packer roster to keep them from playing in the AFL. It is a business.
 

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No team wants to guarantee more money. It is a business. And you have to make your hay when the zodiac is in your corner. Lombardi had to part with Jim Ringo and Jim Taylor before the days of free agency because he knew if he had to pay THOSE future HOFERS he would have to pay a lot of others. But at the same time he had to sign both draft picks, Jim Grabowski and Donny Anderson to contracts equal to 10-20 times that of many on the Packer roster to keep them from playing in the AFL. It is a business.
Yup and Jaire would have been guaranteed more money, he just needed to stay healthy and make the 53 man roster.

The Packers did JA a huge favor by releasing him when they did. They very well could have hung on to him until final cut downs.

You're welcome JA and Dad, don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.
 
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Yup and Jaire would have been guaranteed more money, he just needed to stay healthy and make the 53 man roster.

The Packers did JA a huge favor by releasing him when they did. They very well could have hung on to him until final cut downs.

You're welcome JA and Dad, don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.
Regarding Alexander’s injury history, Landis stated that Jaire was unable to straighten his leg out during his series of injuries in 2024and implied that the Packers’ medical staff misdiagnosed the cornerback’s injury

The one diagnosis that the Packers 200% got correct is that Jaire just claimed he can’t straighten his leg, but in the same breath wants us to commit to more guaranteed? That doesn’t even make any sense.

Sounds to me like we misdiagnosed his injury alright. Might have injured his Cerebral Cortex if he’s thinking Forest Gump is getting a Raise!
 
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If I am another team, thinking about possibly signing JA, and saw his fathers interview, my offer just dropped substantially. No need to bring that kind of drama/cancer into a team when you have 90 guys giving it their all and fighting for a spot on the roster.

I don't mind some sass on the field, but I have seen interviews with JA, he thinks that he's god's gift to football and his own fecal matter doesn't stink. Next up!
 

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Yup and Jaire would have been guaranteed more money, he just needed to stay healthy and make the 53 man roster.

The Packers did JA a huge favor by releasing him when they did. They very well could have hung on to him until final cut downs.

You're welcome JA and Dad, don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.
I don't hold either the contract or the Dad against Jaire. I figure that The Pack did not want to pay Jaire what his contract was. Jaire did not want to budge on that. We just couldn't reach an agreement. Not sure why Jaire gets so much flack and a guy like Bakhtiari gets so much sympathy. His contract was a lot worse for us.
 

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I don't hold either the contract or the Dad against Jaire. I figure that The Pack did not want to pay Jaire what his contract was. Jaire did not want to budge on that. We just couldn't reach an agreement. Not sure why Jaire gets so much flack and a guy like Bakhtiari gets so much sympathy. His contract was a lot worse for us.

Bahk was cut with 1 year left on his contract and it saved the Packers over $20M to do so. After he was cut, Bahk thanked the Packers and gushed about his career in GB. I don't remember his father lashing out at Packer Doctors and blaming them for his medical issues.

If in fact what Jaire's father said was true, "Packers wouldn't guarantee any money, so JA said no", I have a big issue with that way of thinking. As I said in a previous post, he ALREADY was given $30M in a guaranteed bonus with a contract that had 2 years left on it. Now he wants more guaranteed money, despite missing a ton of games in the last 4 years and still getting full pay? :roflmao:

That kind of attitude makes NO SENSE to me. All I can say is the guy is so full of himself, that he doesn't understand the logic of someone not wanting to guarantee him more money for not playing. My guess, he would have been paid very good money, if.......he earned it.
 
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I don't hold either the contract or the Dad against Jaire. I figure that The Pack did not want to pay Jaire what his contract was. Jaire did not want to budge on that. We just couldn't reach an agreement. Not sure why Jaire gets so much flack and a guy like Bakhtiari gets so much sympathy. His contract was a lot worse for us.

Dude never once bad mouthed the organization and understood things...
 

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