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Gibbs??

Discussion in 'All Other Team Discussions' started by 4thand26, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. 4thand26

    4thand26 Cheesehead

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    Did Gibbs really call 2 time outs in a row to ice the kicker, thereby incurring a 15 yard penalty???
     
  2. DarkaneRules

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    I heard Redskin's radio discussing this as I live in Virginia. Gibbs maintains he was unaware of the rule. A couple callers thought that was probably a lie. One caller implied that Gibbs might have even done this to take full blame on the loss on himself and off the players. It is all crazy. I guess I am inclined to believe a guy like Gibbs though. If he said he didn't know the rule, then he didn't know the rule.
     
  3. yooperfan

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    I think most serious fans know this rule so It's hard to believe Gibbs wouldn't.
    I also heard on ESPN this morning that Gibbs didn't know that his team would only have 10 players on the field on their 1st defensive play in honor of #21.
    If both these things are the case, I have to question if Joe Gibbs is in touch with reallity anymore.
     
  4. cheesey

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    Geez.........even I know that rule! So either he's not telling the truth, or he's dumb.
     
  5. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    I think after the amount of emotions that team has experienced this week.. they probably were spent by then. Not really normal circumstances with a funeral to attend today and dealing with everything else.
     
  6. cheesey

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    Maybe so...........it just seems weird that he GAVE the other team the winning FG. Maybe had they not got the 15 yards, maybe their kicker would have missed it. I don't know.
     
  7. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    He drilled the kick right before Gibbs took the first timeout.. guys were crying on the sidelines as they lined up for the first kick... I really don't think alot of them were ready to deal with playing a game...

    Gibbs looked like a father that had lost a son.. I think it took alot out of him.

    "Sunday Ticket" allows me to get out of the regional laugher that was the Vikes against the Lions.. the Skins played their hearts out.
     
  8. cheesey

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    Oh....ok. I didn't get to see any of it. I'm sure you are right about what happened then.
     
  9. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    That is just my opinion of watching the Skins sidelines... I could be completely off base... Gibbs looked overwhelmed as did most of the Skins players...
     
  10. ttsather

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    (Having not actually heard much of the commentary that followed that debacle . . .)

    The context of a place-kick played a major part in the penalty, and could explain Joe Gibbs' confusion.

    Many people know that consecutive timeouts are not allowed. However, in most cases, officials simply choose to ignore the requests for a second timeout and the play continues.

    Somewhat recently, I'm led to believe, this rule was amended to state that in a play in which a kicker is involved, and the request for a second timeout is used to freeze or distract a kicker, then there is an unsportsmanlike penalty.

    I'm trying to find a source to back this up, but I've been told that it is now considered unsportsmanlike conduct because teams (specifically the Patriots, originally) began taking advantage of the rule by signaling for a second timeout knowing full well that it would not be awarded, but just trying to distract the kicker.

    As the intent of this signal was not part of the normal course of the game, but instead was specifically meant to be a coercive use of a rules loophole, the rule was changed accordingly.

    This is why Tony Corrente specifically noted in his on-field call that the second timeout call "meant to freeze the kicker", was a violation and a penalty by rule.

    So, I find it understandable - inexcusable, but understandable - that Joe Gibbs may not have been fully clear on the rule. My feeling is that he DID know the rule and was covering for himself or a player, but there's some plausible deniability there.
     
  11. Greg C.

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    There have been several similar gaffes by Gibbs this season, mostly involving clock management late in games. It seems like the game has passed him by.
     
  12. Green_Bay_Packers

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    What a fool if he hadn't called a timeout they would have won
     
  13. flep

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    I remember us trying to call a 2nd timeout when we lost against philly in that playoff game but the refs just ignored the players and let philly kick the field goal.

    Even I know this rule.

    It was a terrible day for the skins to even have to consider playing.
     
  14. TheKanataThrilla

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    This rule has been mentioned on numerous occassions earlier in the season in the "icing the kicker" debates that went on after the Denver/Oakland game in week 2 I believe.
     

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