Following the Packers Defense this Year

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I swear the more dump statements I read about these sports writers dissecting the Packers defense, the more
I scratch my head.
Below is a statement where their referring what happen in the off season.
I pulled it here for you to read.

They also traded Rashan Gary and let Quay Walker, and while those weren’t elite players,
they were quality pieces that the Packers now need to replace.

I ask, if they think they weren't elite players, why do we need to replace them?????

 

[gopkrs]

I swear the more dump statements I read about these sports writers dissecting the Packers defense, the more
I scratch my head.
Below is a statement where their referring what happen in the off season.
I pulled it here for you to read.

They also traded Rashan Gary and let Quay Walker, and while those weren’t elite players,
they were quality pieces that the Packers now need to replace.

I ask, if they think they weren't elite players, why do we need to replace them?????

Well he said they were quality players that needed replacing. I think he got that right.

 

[Half Empty]

I swear the more dump statements I read about these sports writers dissecting the Packers defense, the more
I scratch my head.
Below is a statement where their referring what happen in the off season.
I pulled it here for you to read.

They also traded Rashan Gary and let Quay Walker, and while those weren’t elite players,
they were quality pieces that the Packers now need to replace.

I ask, if they think they weren't elite players, why do we need to replace them?????

Maybe because they were quality pieces?

 

[OldSchool101]

First of all Green Bay immediately signed Zaire Franklin when walking away from Quay, so I’m not sure how someone could overlook that, unless they were intending to.

 

[OldSchool101]

Gary was a pretty good player, but not great. However GB does finally get a chance to look better at Lukas Van Ness, Brenton Cox Jr or Barryn Sorrell. Behind them GB also nets RD5, Colin Oliver. In addition GB added Hargrave, who actually averaged 1.17 less Sacks per season across their last 4 full seasons. 7.33 vs 8.5. I don’t some massive impact difference there and both are similar Run Defenders.

I’ll leave Chris McClellan alone because he’s more an answer to Wooden leaving. If anything the cumulative difference is in favor of Green Bay in gains over losses as far as personnel.

When a iDl can nearly match your Sack total and at 42% of the Cap hit?? It’s time to go! I like Rashan but as pointed out by others he’s not worth $26Mil cap or whatever it was for 2026.


I’m surprised they didn’t even mention JJ Enagbare as he was a pretty significant contributor with 44 Defensive snaps per game across 16 contests in 2025 (held out week 18). Although I think DD Sutton becomes his direct replacement. Enagbare was his (DDS) NFL Comp player on 2 draft scouting sites I’ve crossed, so maybe they saw that and left it alone.

 

[OldSchool101]

Javon Hargrave (and Chris Brooks) are back at practice. Let’s go!

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Gary was a pretty good player, but not great. However GB does finally get a chance to look better at Lukas Van Ness, Brenton Cox Jr or Barryn Sorrell. Behind them GB also nets RD5, Colin Oliver. In addition GB added Hargrave, who actually averaged 1.17 less Sacks per season across their last 4 full seasons. 7.33 vs 8.5. I don’t some massive impact difference there and both are similar Run Defenders.

I’ll leave Chris McClellan alone because he’s more an answer to Wooden leaving. If anything the cumulative difference is in favor of Green Bay in gains over losses as far as personnel.

When a iDl can nearly match your Sack total and at 42% of the Cap hit?? It’s time to go! I like Rashan but as pointed out by others he’s not worth $26Mil cap or whatever it was for 2026.


I’m surprised they didn’t even mention JJ Enagbare as he was a pretty significant contributor with 44 Defensive snaps per game across 16 contests in 2025 (held out week 18). Although I think DD Sutton becomes his direct replacement. Enagbare was his (DDS) NFL Comp player on 2 draft scouting sites I’ve crossed, so maybe they saw that and left it alone.

New defensive coordinator this year, so a few personnel changes are not a surprise. I think the Pack has enough talent on that side of the ball to be effective, and it will be much better when Micah rejoins the line-up. I expect some adjustments and growing pains, but overall I'm not too concerned.

Interesting to see if Brandon Cisse can make a major contribution as a rookie.

 

[milani]

I swear the more dump statements I read about these sports writers dissecting the Packers defense, the more
I scratch my head.
Below is a statement where their referring what happen in the off season.
I pulled it here for you to read.

They also traded Rashan Gary and let Quay Walker, and while those weren’t elite players,
they were quality pieces that the Packers now need to replace.

I ask, if they think they weren't elite players, why do we need to replace them?????

One way or the other, those two played a lot of snaps. They are not being replaced with near as many. Is that good or bad?

 

[Curly Calhoun]

One way or the other, those two played a lot of snaps. They are not being replaced with near as many. Is that good or bad?

I'm pretty sure Franklin has had his share of NFL reps.

 

[OldSchool101]

Interesting to see if Brandon Cisse can make a major contribution as a rookie.

Exactly. He’s definitely one player to keep our eye on. He graded pretty solid in that top 40 ovdraft prospect, so I’m not sure how he fell to 52. He reminds me of how Brian Branch slipped in the Draft. My hope is we get at least 1 or 2 newer Defenders that hit. I’m talking like really pop like Branch did early in.

 

[OldSchool101]

Zaire mentioned he felt like he was playing around a bunch of football Ninja’s. He’s seen alot of football and his remarks are more evidence that this D is loaded with talent. It’s more about staying health and having a couple of newer additions become noticeable impact players. IMO any increases off the last 2 seasons and things could get interesting.

The O I’m not worried about as much they’re pretty consistently good. So if we get back to being top 10 Defense (or on that list) we’ll be hard to beat.

 

[milani]

I'm pretty sure Franklin has had his share of NFL reps.

Throw in all the other players we lost on offense and defense and it adds up to quite a lot.

 

[OldSchool101]

Throw in all the other players we lost on offense and defense and it adds up to quite a lot.

Yes it does. Fortunately most of the departures had developing players behind them that are pretty talented, but it’s still scary to lose household names like Rashan Gary or Elgton Jenkins.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I swear the more dump statements I read about these sports writers dissecting the Packers defense, the more
I scratch my head.
Below is a statement where their referring what happen in the off season.
I pulled it here for you to read.

They also traded Rashan Gary and let Quay Walker, and while those weren’t elite players,
they were quality pieces that the Packers now need to replace.

I ask, if they think they weren't elite players, why do we need to replace them?????

Yeah it really is a dumb question. We let go of two non-elite players. Oh my, how will they be replaced?

And the question is even dumber considering they got Franklin, and they drafted DDS as an Edge guy who is likely to see more snaps than the typical 4th round pick. From here, Gluten has improved the team.

There are trade rumors involving Sweat from AZ. I'd really like that, but it may be tough to pull off cap-wise. They can't pay everyone, as the story goes…….

 

[Heyjoe4]

Zaire mentioned he felt like he was playing around a bunch of football Ninja’s. He’s seen alot of football and his remarks are more evidence that this D is loaded with talent. It’s more about staying health and having a couple of newer additions become noticeable impact players. IMO any increases off the last 2 seasons and things could get interesting.

The O I’m not worried about as much they’re pretty consistently good. So if we get back to being top 10 Defense (or on that list) we’ll be hard to beat.

Sounds like Franklin will wear the green dot, and that's most likely an improvement over Q.

 

[OldSchool101]

Sounds like Franklin will wear the green dot, and that's most likely an improvement over Q.

If I recall Franklin is slightly better getting after the QB or shedding blocks to get to the ball. He’s like a heat seeking missile. He should be fun to watch.

Quay was an excellent form tackler. I believe guys kinda laid down once he grabbed them because he’s kinda mean looking.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Yeah it really is a dumb question. We let go of two non-elite players. Oh my, how will they be replaced?

And the question is even dumber considering they got Franklin, and they drafted DDS as an Edge guy who is likely to see more snaps than the typical 4th round pick. From here, Gluten has improved the team.

There are trade rumors involving Sweat from AZ. I'd really like that, but it may be tough to pull off cap-wise. They can't pay everyone, as the story goes…….

I had high hopes for Walker when they drafted him, but to this point in his career he's just been sort-of okay. If he had been a middle round pick, I'd say he's doing fine but being a first rounder the expectations are higher. He's still relatively young yet so maybe a change of scenery will do for him what it did for Eric Stokes.

Gary is what he is - We had all hoped he would be elite, but in the end he was just a guy. I wish him well, but I don't expect much from him in Dallas.

Franklin was solid in Indianapolis, so I'm anxious to see what he brings to Green Bay.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If I recall Franklin is slightly better getting after the QB or shedding blocks to get to the ball. He’s like a heat seeking missile. He should be fun to watch.

Quay was an excellent form tackler. I believe guys kinda laid down once he grabbed them because he’s kinda mean looking.

I really wanted Q to succeed. IMO his downfall was a lack of "spacial awareness" - a fancy way of saying he lost guys who got behind him. A complete ILB needs to keep track of TEs, WRs, and RBs running short slants or screens. Walker just couldn't do that.

(I struggle with this too - I'm horrible at understanding/picturing directions. I am very grateful for GPS.)

OK back on topic - I hope you're right and Franklin can bring some heat on the QB. And I hope the CB group, with the additions of Cisse and St. Juste, can play more press than zone. Seems possible under Gannon who doesn't limit himself to one "scheme".

 

[Krabs]

Did we start a "Fire Gannon" thread yet?

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Did we start a "Fire Gannon" thread yet?

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