Some people understand their strengths and weaknesses really well, so this may not be odd at all. I too am one of those people that has been a leader in many different organizations, but if I have my choice, I'll be the guy behind the scenes making everything work for the head honcho. Not everyone wants to be Batman - they're content to be Robin.
Actually, that's not accurate. Most of these guys were the studs on their high school and college teams. They weren't playing special teams. Now they made it to the NFL and are told that they aren't good enough to start. That is a HUGE mental blow to any 20yr old.
I might debate that if I had the desire to dig deep and follow the career paths of H.S. and college players, but I don't. I do know this, when you are a freshman and even a sophomore, you usually cut your teeth on special teams.
You're right. These things shouldn't be happening and IMO a good coach would be able to take advantage of the July-Sept camp to do all of the teaching, and utilize the first few games of the season to correct mistakes and fine tune. There is still time for this to happen, so we will see how Bisaccia handles several bad weeks of play under his command.
I think they make the change at the end of the season unless the blunders continue to cost us games. The question is do the players believe in Bisaccia or do they blame themselves?
He also needs to explain to his returners the rules. And what they should do if the ball is obviously going to hit very near the goal line. Which is to catch it and return it.
So that is why P U N T A is being censored? lolI haven't heard Puntang used in a long time! One of my college buddies used to use it excessively, the word that is.
I think so. Odd auto censor for sure.
Would the problem be if he has a PUNT AN Gang?
It's possible that he has repeatedly. Imagine that these players are your 14-17yr old kids, that tune you out and never focus on what you want them to focus on. Part of that is just the age and maturity of the kids, but a different person may be able to get the message across better.
It's his job to get the messages across. And Savion did it twice in one game. And with the problems all around in the STs game; his message doesn't seem to be getting through to very many players. When is it his fault? Maybe he doesn't get his plan across to his coaches. Either way, other teams don't have all the problems we have.
That's the whole problem - nobody seems to know what he even does. Makes it hard to put together an informed opinion on whether to fire him. We're basically shooting in the dark, and one thing I love about this group is that are very few people in the habit of offering half-assed opinions.
As I recall, Eberflus was quite popular with his players, too....
And I think this is highly likely to be the biggest factor, right there. And we're not the only ones who are starting to feel that way, either - I've seen more and more writers suggesting that very thing the last couple of weeks (and especially this past week), as well as some podcasters.
Absolutely
I think it’s time to move on but not necessarily this minute. Bisaccia and Co have the experience level to make marked changes in minimal time. It’s back to who is going to come in and flip the Teams unit overnight? Be careful for what you wish for.
That's the whole problem - nobody seems to know what he even does. Makes it hard to put together an informed opinion on whether to fire him. We're basically shooting in the dark, and one thing I love about this group is that are very few people in the habit of offering half-assed opinions.
As I recall, Eberflus was quite popular with his players, too....
And I think this is highly likely to be the biggest factor, right there. And we're not the only ones who are starting to feel that way, either - I've seen more and more writers suggesting that very thing the last couple of weeks (and especially this past week), as well as some podcasters.
I'm linking one of the podcasts, which I think makes the argument rather well. I have mixed feelings about Peter Bukowski, partly because he's so intense and caustic, and has a tendency to beat a dead horse into a bloody pulp. But he does make some good points sometimes.
And he tends to beat his points to death to get them across, which tends to distract from the fact that some of his points are pretty astute. The gist of the argument is that (apparently) Green Bay is one of the very few teams in the NFL that packs the special teams unit almost exclusively with young players, as a part of the "draft and develop" model - setting aside the ST roster spots for young players in order to give them a couple of extra years to show what they've got. But (according to this theory) that absolute commitment to D&D and putting younger players out there in crucial situations is hurting us on special teams.
Accurate data on the age profile of every club's special teams unit is hard to find, but it does seem that most other organizations make it a point to assemble a core of veterans on ST to play key roles and establish a stable foundation for the unit. They use rotational players or even starters in crucial areas (especially the blocking and kick-rushing units), rather than rookie or sophomore linemen who are third-string at their normal position. From what I've been able to find, Brandon McManus and Matt Orzech are the only players over 29, and the only other veteran teams players are LBs Eric Williams and Kristian Welch, with an occasional snap for Corey Ballantine.
This seems to be very unusual compared to elite clubs who have top-ranked special teams units. Richard Sherman was a core special teams player for years even when he was an all-pro, Cooper Dejean is a regular punt returner, Penei Sewell is a ST regular - and 2-time 1st team All-Pro and 3-time pro-bowler.
Other upper-level teams are using their roster to put their best players in key roles in order to give their team the best chance to win, and we clutch our pearls and worry about Keisan Nixon or Bo Melton risking an
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Bisaccia reminds me of a barking dog who sits out on your front porch. You cannot tell if he wants to come inside or go down the road for a run.That's the whole problem - nobody seems to know what he even does. Makes it hard to put together an informed opinion on whether to fire him. We're basically shooting in the dark, and one thing I love about this group is that are very few people in the habit of offering half-assed opinions.
As I recall, Eberflus was quite popular with his players, too....
And I think this is highly likely to be the biggest factor, right there. And we're not the only ones who are starting to feel that way, either - I've seen more and more writers suggesting that very thing the last couple of weeks (and especially this past week), as well as some podcasters.
I'm linking one of the podcasts, which I think makes the argument rather well. I have mixed feelings about Peter Bukowski, partly because he's so intense and caustic, and has a tendency to beat a dead horse into a bloody pulp. But he does make some good points sometimes.
And he tends to beat his points to death to get them across, which tends to distract from the fact that some of his points are pretty astute. The gist of the argument is that (apparently) Green Bay is one of the very few teams in the NFL that packs the special teams unit almost exclusively with young players, as a part of the "draft and develop" model - setting aside the ST roster spots for young players in order to give them a couple of extra years to show what they've got. But (according to this theory) that absolute commitment to D&D and putting younger players out there in crucial situations is hurting us on special teams.
Accurate data on the age profile of every club's special teams unit is hard to find, but it does seem that most other organizations make it a point to assemble a core of veterans on ST to play key roles and establish a stable foundation for the unit. They use rotational players or even starters in crucial areas (especially the blocking and kick-rushing units), rather than rookie or sophomore linemen who are third-string at their normal position. From what I've been able to find, Brandon McManus and Matt Orzech are the only players over 29, and the only other veteran teams players are LBs Eric Williams and Kristian Welch, with an occasional snap for Corey Ballantine.
This seems to be very unusual compared to elite clubs who have top-ranked special teams units. Richard Sherman was a core special teams player for years even when he was an all-pro, Cooper Dejean is a regular punt returner, Penei Sewell is a ST regular - and 2-time 1st team All-Pro and 3-time pro-bowler.
Other upper-level teams are using their roster to put their best players in key roles in order to give their team the best chance to win, and we clutch our pearls and worry about Keisan Nixon or Bo Melton risking an injury.
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I completely relate to that! I was the same way... I never liked being in the limelight; I always wanted to be the drummer, not the guitar hero or lead singer.
I don't know that it has to be so black-and-white, this-or-that though, does it?
