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Finley: a Packer for life?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by gbpowner, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. PackersRS

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    Also:
    http://www1.skysports.com/american-football/news/12118/7070973/Peyton-happy-with-pay-cut

     
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  2. ivo610

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    Again take what players say to the media with a grain of salt. Fact is he didnt hit FA. Maybe his agent didnt like what he saw from JJ hitting FA. Neither of us can speculate what he would have gotten in FA compared to what he got from GB.
     
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  4. PackersRS

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    Yep, the only thing we can take is his word for it. I trust it. There are also reports of what his demeanor is, particularly with money (he's a cheapskate)
     
  5. ivo610

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    BB would have been cut, taking a pay cut in order to get a check is different than having multiple opportunities and going somewhere and taking less money than you could have got somewhere else. See D. Fisher example with his daughter.

    http://www.stampedeblue.com/2011/7/...ose-ryan-diem-on-us-renegotiates-for-one-year
     
  6. PackersRS

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    Was he offered more?
     
  7. PackersRS

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    And the point isn't whether players would take paycuts, it's whether players would take less to remain with a team, or to sign with a certain team. Asomugah said he took less money to sign with the Eagles. But you don't take a players' word for it, so there's no way to prove it either way.
     
  8. ivo610

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    Never became a FA. you know this RS.
     
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    So how can you say he took market value?
     
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    If you can find an example of a GM or owner saying they offered said player more money that would be a great example. Or even a coach. You might be right with Asomugah, I feel like a GM or owner said something.
     
  11. ivo610

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    Really? Thought that was obvious.

    overall the contract matches up with Tom Bradys, but the contract is front loaded so he actually gets more than brady for awhile. Brady and Manning a year ago were the 1A and 1B of QBs. Seems like market value.
     
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    It's almost always about the money, but not always. Absolute statements are almost always wrong. :D

    Gilbert Brown is the example that leaps to mind when this is brought up. He took a pay cut to stay on the Packers and so did LeRoy Butler. I believe LeRoy did so more than once.
     
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  13. PackersRS

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    Who's to say he wouldn't get much more in Free Agency? You don't believe a team like Miami or Oakland could completely overpay in a bidding war for that guy???? Really? With those crazy guys running the show? Seymour is getting $16MI/year for crying out loud.

    Market value doesn't depend only on values of similar "products". Timing plays a huge factor into it.
     
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    Why would you give up money so another man can get rich? I assume they just restructured the deals around the team. Without contract numbers available its hard to prove.
     
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    restructuring is different than taking less money between two teams. I thought it was general knowledge he took that pay cut in order to make their roster. No one offers up their contract to help the team. You have to look out for yourself first.
     
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    I cant imagine the cap allowing much more. Brady and Manning are the highest paid players in the league.

    Miami is pretty cheap and I believe Oakland let Nnamdi go bc they couldnt afford him.

    Brett Favre moaned and complained about not having TT and management surround him with talent but I never heard him say "hey I'll play for league minimum if you spend the difference on offensive players." Its always about the $. Reggie White was one of the classiest players the league has ever seen and for him it was about the $ as well.
     
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    LT was already in NY for a year this was not the year he left SD and went to NY that was this year and he took the paycut so santonio homles plax and cromartie to get thiers.
    It was Sanchez that said he would rework his contract to get more big name guys
     
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    Also, LT still had a year left on his contract

    "To help free up cap room, NewYorkJets running back LaDainian Tomlinson has taken a pay cut from $2.625 million to about $1.1 million, according to a ESPN.com report"
     
  21. thepackers1fan4

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    I like Finley a lot he has been a clutch threat throughout this season I hope he stays a Packers people still haven't been able to find out a way to cover him.
     
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    (facepalm) again, another team was not involved and he needed to take a pay cut in order to make the team. No player takes a paycut so someone else can get rich. Would you? of course not.
     
  23. Castle Of Cheese

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    Here is an article that take a pretty interesting angle on Finley and the possibility of franchising him. Potentially, he could argue that he is a WR and not a TE based on the number of snaps he takes split out from the line. If he were to succeed with that argument, it would change is franchise number from about $5.5 million to about $9.5 million.

    I still think they only franchise him long enough to work out a longer deal. With Grant's money coming off the books, Ted likely moving on from Clifton and possibly even Driver, there should be enough money to get deals done for Wells and Finley. The bigger issue is whether or not they can leave enough for Raji and Matthews in 2013.

    Assuming Rotoworld's contract info is accurate...

    Current cap space: $7.5 million
    Grant: $2.5 million
    Clifton: $5.25 million
    Driver: $2.6 million
    Rough Total: $17.85 million (depending on what the cap moves to next year)

    That said, there's a reason I'm not an NFL GM ;) I'm sure Ted will make the right call.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...oming-between-finley-packers/#comment-1376374
     
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  25. Bensalama21

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    Didn't God tell him to come to Green Bay? ;)


    Well said.
     

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