Eagles want a 5th or 6th Rounder for Asante Samuel

[13 Times Champs]

If he's a "Top corner in the league," why aren't other teams willing to give up a 5th or 6th round draft pick for him?

His big salary. He's due $9.5 million next season.

 

[ivo610]

Well I watch almost every Eagles game and I'd like to think do know a good bit about how good Samuel is. He's a top CB in the league.

His best years are behind him? Give me a break. He's a perennial pro bowler and one of the top corners in the league. You don't have to be an expert at anything football related to know that.

Did you think Woodson was done when we picked him up?



It's Samuel, not Samuels. And he had a hamstring injury that kept him out of some games last season. You act like he's made of glass.

Once again I wasn't aware of our cap situation so this is likely not a possibility. But seriously, you can't deny that he's still an elite player in this league.

He has never been healthy minus one year in the league.

Bottom line is elite corners aren't put up for trade for 7th round picks.

Revis is elite, he would command several 1st round picks no matter his contract.

 

[SpartaChris]

His big salary. He's due $9.5 million next season.

Maybe, but if he's a top corner in the league, wouldn't his salary be worth it to other teams in need?

 

[TJV]

Even if he restructures, what’s the likely cap hit this season and for the two after this one? Do the Packers want to invest that much in a CB more suited to zone than man coverage? IMO Capers had to play a lot of zone last season not because he wanted to, but because he had to due the poor pass rush. The Packers prefer DBs who can cover man-to-man. (Once again) most important for those advocating his acquisition, which Packers don’t you want to extend going forward in order to keep Samuel?

 

[13 Times Champs]

Maybe, but if he's a top corner in the league, wouldn't his salary be worth it to other teams in need?

Depends on how much money you have and whether you feel it is worth it to invest it in a corner that is 31. First from what I understand the Packers don't have the cap room. Secondly, spending that kind of money could have huge consequences down the road when you need to sign other players. Yes, some teams like the Redskins will find such an adventure worthwhile.

I think he is an elite CB. He has missed 12 games over a 9 year career so I don't think he is injury prone. That's less than Woodson though Woodson has played longer. But like most things it's about the money and it would take crazy money to sign him even if he restructures. He isn't going to play for $1-2 mil. If we were going to spend the kind of money it would take to sign him then that money would have been better spent on a Mario Williams in my opinion.

 

[SpartaChris]

Depends on how much money you have and whether you feel it is worth it to invest it in a corner that is 31. First from what I understand the Packers don't have the cap room. Secondly, spending that kind of money could have huge consequences down the road when you need to sign other players. Yes, some teams like the Redskins will find such an adventure worthwhile.

I think he is an elite CB. He has missed 12 games over a 9 year career so I don't think he is injury prone. That's less than Woodson though Woodson has played longer. But like most things it's about the money and it would take crazy money to sign him even if he restructures. He isn't going to play for $1-2 mil. If we were going to spend the kind of money it would take to sign him then that money would have been better spent on a Mario Williams in my opinion.

I agree with most of your post, especially the first paragraph, but I don't agree that he's elite. I feel like, iff he was elite, the Eagles would have chosen to keep and extend him last season. Instead they tried unsuccessfully to trade him and signed Asomougha. I won't rule out schematic reasons, but I feel like if he was as good as he's being made out to be, they would be trying to keep him and work with him rather than trade him.

Besides, the Eagles are the last team in the league I would ever want to do a trade with. They're the masters of trading polished turds.. See Kolb, Kevin, McNabb, Donovan, and Owens, Terrell.

 

[13 Times Champs]

I agree with most of your post, especially the first paragraph, but I don't agree that he's elite. I feel like, iff he was elite, the Eagles would have chosen to keep and extend him last season. Instead they tried unsuccessfully to trade him and signed Asomougha. I won't rule out schematic reasons, but I feel like if he was as good as he's being made out to be, they would be trying to keep him and work with him rather than trade him.

Besides, the Eagles are the last team in the league I would ever want to do a trade with. They're the masters of trading polished turds.. See Kolb, Kevin, McNabb, Donovan, and Owens, Terrell.

A lot of the guys they signed last season put them in salary cap hell. It was believed when they signed them there would be the consequences being felt now. Like all teams they have to make decisions based on money. I think they have decided to part ways with Samuel for those reasons. It hasn't helped his cause that he criticized Eagles management.

 

[Southpaw]

I agree with most of your post, especially the first paragraph, but I don't agree that he's elite. I feel like, iff he was elite, the Eagles would have chosen to keep and extend him last season. Instead they tried unsuccessfully to trade him and signed Asomougha. I won't rule out schematic reasons, but I feel like if he was as good as he's being made out to be, they would be trying to keep him and work with him rather than trade him.

They are trading him because they are going back to being a Man Cover defense and Samuel does not fit that mold. Samuel is an elite CB, numbers don't lie. But he's a zone corner. Why would they pay that salary to a player who is not going to fit into their scheme?

Besides, the Eagles are the last team in the league I would ever want to do a trade with. They're the masters of trading polished turds.. See Kolb, Kevin, McNabb, Donovan, and Owens, Terrell.

Unlike all 4 of those players, Samuel has actually won a superbowl. He's far from a turd. If he's on a team that suits his strengths and he has some competent coaching on defense, he's more than capable of being a very productive player.

 

[jaybadger82]

Not that complicated: he's overpaid and doesn't have many great years left.

 

[Jules]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...a-falcons-in-trade?module=HP11_headline_stack

Asante Samuel is excited to be with the Atlanta Falcons after a trying 2011 season and offseason with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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"I'm happy to be a Falcon," said the four-time Pro Bowl cornerback, whom Atlanta acquired Wednesday in exchange for a seventh-round pick in this week's NFL draft. "The city is embracing me well. The Falcons have an excellent team, coaches, schemes and talent."

The Eagles had been unsuccessfully shopping Samuel since last year, and one impediment to a deal was his hefty contract. Samuel, 31, was scheduled to make $21.5 million over the next two seasons, and he would count for more than $8 million against the salary cap.

But, as part of the trade, Samuel and the Falcons agreed to terms on a three-year, $18.5 million contract, a source with knowledge of the situation told NFL Network's Albert Breer. Then the swap was completed.

"I wanted to be a Falcon, so we made it work," Samuel said.

 

[HyponGrey]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...a-falcons-in-trade?module=HP11_headline_stack

Chances he rides pine? If they put him on the field, it hopefully means Robinson comes off. That guy gets away with murder.