Preston Smith, Sua Cravens, Kendall Fuller, and Josh Norman could all be worth a drop of about 5ppg allowed with an abysmal DC.
Yep, context definitely matters.
I understand what those roles are, but I don't value them in the slightest(or at least as much as you do), keep in mind that with the exception of AHC, these "junior coordinator" positions just recently started popping up around the league in the last 5 years. Back in the day, you were just an analyst. It gives off the appearance of granting more responsibility without taking any actual accountability
He coached at Washington for the 2015 season, they drafted Preston.
Then in 2016 they drafted Cravens and Fuller while signing Norman.
Barry was still the DC then.
So while Washington improved in talent, Barry as the DC didn't seem to be able to do much with them. The 2016 roster wasn't terrible, had Barry been able to do more they probably could have turned an 8-7-1 season easily into 10-6 or better. Of the 7 losses and 1 tie, 5 games were decided by less than 10 points.
It must be super annoying to be highly accomplished in your field and have a bunch of ignorant morons telling you what you should do on the internet.
Agree. If Barry is hired, fans will be begging for Pettine to return by Week 8.For me, I'm all in on Ejiro Evero. Young up and comer, has familiarity with LaFleur, and has spent a solid amount of time everywhere he's been besides Green Bay. And hell, who wouldn't want to get away from Capers?
Three years on the Bucs staff, followed by 5 years on the 49ers staff, and has been on the Rams staff for 4 years. Leads me to believe he gets somewhere and makes an impact.
I don't understand the love for Joe Barry. If he never had defensive coordinator opportunities he might be intriguing based purely on the unknown, but he's had two shots and did nothing with either opportunity.
The Washington press was scathing of Joe Barry toward the end of his tenure.
At this point, I'm past the point of retreads. Give me the young up and comer with something to prove. Give me the innovation. The freshness. The energy. To me, that does not describe Joe Barry.
If the Packers wanted a retread head coach, they could've went Jim Caldwell. Or Chuck Pagano.
The point was made that perhaps Barry has learned something since his last DC stint. The guy is now 50 and has been in coaching since the 90s. I'm not sure how much learning, and application of that learning can be effective at this point.
Go with Evero.
1. Why, then, have an account?
2. The wisdom of the crowd often arrives at the correct answer, despite a lack of specific expertise.
3. Has MLF demonstrated that he's highly accomplished in the field of picking a DC?
4. Matt Millen, Bill O'Brien, Hershel Walker, John Hadl, et. al - names associated with experts making (sometimes multiple) bad decisions.
5. I am among the ignorant population in this case, but I don't think necessarily the moronic section. I would think there are plenty of folks expressing their opinions who have both done their homework and can think their way out of a paper bag.
Other than that, I'm pretty much on your side.
Honestly, if it weren't for the egregious error by Pettine at the end of the first half in the NFCCG, I would definitely prefer Pettine to Barry. But that was 100% a fire-able offense.Agree. If Barry is hired, fans will be begging for Pettine to return by Week 8.
Just wondering why the Badger hate. I realize they start almost every year with a great outlook and then blow it, but that applies to the other major football team from Wisconsin (the pro one), too.
I'm going to go with benefit of the doubt. MLF and company have proven the doubters wrong more often than not.
All I'm repeatedly saying is the guy has not found success ANYWHERE.
Here's another "factoid":
Raheem Morris, now the Rams DC but previously the Bucs HC, fired Barry after one season.
Whether it was Lane Kiffin or Ed Orgeron, they fired Barry from USC after 2 years.
I'm just trying to understand where's the indicators of success?
The only "success" is that Barry survived Norv Turner's firing in San Diego and stayed on Mike McCoy's staff. But McCoy fired him for Mike Nolan after 2 years.
Joe Barry has only coached for more than 2 years anywhere 3 times in his ENTIRE coaching career. Joe Barry has been coaching since 1994.
LaFleur's hiring and Barry's hiring are polar opposites if you ask me.
For one, ever since LaFleur started his career in Houston, he's essentially moved up. From an offensive assistant to 3 stints as a QB Coach, to 2 opportunities as an OC, and now a HC....all in a matter of 11 years.
Barry has been coaching nearly twice as long and hasn't stuck anywhere. He coaches just long enough for someone to realize they can do better and then they move on. The Chargers opportunity was the best one for him, because this fanbase won't let him be mediocre(or less than) for very long, especially after Mike Pettine displayed occasional competence.
The bolded is not true.
In Tampa he requested to be released from his contract so he could go to USC. After coaching at USC he decided to go back to the NFL. Neither time was he fired.